thanks so much

and the photo as well!
softgrey
love the tidbit about chanel and the chains. i'd never read about that ...
my own instructor uses rope in the hem of apron-like dresses she makes, for a similar effect
i did learn about two different kinds of cowl
one which is draped on a mannequin to create the design (this is the one that uses the weight inside)
and one which is just extra fabric added to the neckline
It is true for vintage clothes, hehe, I always wondered what that solid round thing in the fabric was. And it may be true for higher-end clothes, but I've never noticed that heaviness in high street brands. Although I'm not sure their cowl necks always qualify as such. A cowl neck is not just a loose-fitting turtleneck or stretched-out neckline; there is a specific technique to it.
and indeed, it is a technique..
they are drapes on the bias
but the cowl which is done on the mannequin,
it doesn't necessarily have to have these drapes like in softgrey's photo
because my instructor showed me a white sleeveless top that had no drapes, and she said it was still defined as a cowl ..because of the structure of the neck, and it being folded to the inside, with the added weight
i also asked her if there is any special difference between the two
like if she thought one was more "high end" compared to the other
she said no
she likes both

they are just different techniques.
so i'm glad to hear that...
gasoline rainbow if you bought one of these vintage cowls, i would love to see the actual weight on the inside...
in a way though the one with the weight, it looks quite elegant and dressy..
can be quite subtle...
in the photos i saw...
i would love to own one.