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by the way, if you were able to see the rope and chain,etc. then did you open them apart? or were they clearly visible when you looked inside...

my instructor was telling me about adding stuffing to the inside of a cowl i made
and it would be stitched inside
so i asked her if you would line it after so you can't see the stuffing
she said no... :o

this is quite an interesting topic :p although getting off-topic a bit..
it's just so interesting to discover odd details or 'enhancements' like these in women's clothes.
i wonder if it's the same with men's...
 
^ Yes it would make a nice ad.

Also, I'm impressed by anyone who can do floral patterns without looking like a granny. I am not among them.

Lol! I just try not to look like a granny... but I think sometimes it fails! Hahahaha! :ninja:
 
just moved some posts here from another thread...
we were discussing odd details and things found in women's clothes... seemed that they were old-fashioned 'techniques' not common nowadays... so i moved all the posts to Vintage! ^_^

if anybody else has anything to add, something they saw, it would be great to hear it !
 
if you were able to see the rope and chain,etc. then did you open them apart? or were they clearly visible when you looked inside...

Why, I never! Cut open clothes? That were not mine? I'm teasing.:p Gius, I share your fascination with garment construction, but as you are a student of it, you probably feel more compelled than me to take things apart, to understand the technique. The 'coin' was definitely placed inside the fabric, as was the chain within sleeves and dress/skirt hems. However, there is also this chain I noticed on the inner (but exterior of the fabric) bodice of jackets, extending from one shoulder blade to the other. I don't think it was meant to be for hanging the jacket, so maybe it was to add or hold shape?

As for the rope, I feel like it was usually sewn within the garment, but not inside the fabric. When I say inside the fabric, keep in mind that most vintage clothes I've seen tend to have more than one layer of fabric; if it's a summer item, it will have a lining in the least. And sometimes I think heavier embellishment threads that could qualify as 'rope' or buttons, ruffles etc. have both decorative and constructive uses (ie. they add to the visual aesthetic of the item but also inform its shape and structure).

and they are probably couture, no?

Well, you don't mean haute couture, right? I'm fuzzy on what decade onwards qualifies as vintage, but I feel like older garment techniques were much closer to couture standards than now. By standards, I mean they were upheld whether you were the simple neighborhood tailor or working for a major fashion house.

Perhaps the only notable difference was in the quality of threads (surprisingly $$$) and fabric available to you. My paternal grandmother was one of those 'simple' seamstresses and yet, when I look at her work, her precision, attention to detail, and mastery of very complex silhouettes is awe-inspiring.

Not that badly-made clothes didn't always exist. I have come across my fair share of junk, but I think the overall decline in a couture-like mindset is obvious is the late 60's, early 70's. For one thing, too much freaking polyester! But my mom has a few clothes from that time made by seamstresses/tailors, when it was still common practice to get clothes made from scratch for certain occasions. And the quality remains top-notch.
 
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layers... sounds like dry-clean only :ninja:
from what you write, it seems like these construction details are all hidden, between the layers.

i did mean haute couture. i was just wondering if you saw hand sewing.
after studying couture i really feel it is basically the old-fashioned techniques.. especially looking through History of Style.. children's garments with hand-stitching and finishes--it's really the same. not necessarily 'higher' but it has a different look to it. often cleaner.

i would love to see your grandmother's work if you ever get a chance.. my own instructor is really quite adamant about the materials she uses. it's as if there is no point to her in making clothes if you are using "garbage materials" (quoting her). she has very high standards it makes me want to scream sometimes. but you can always expect the work will look beautiful when finished!
 
I have old versions of the Singer Sewing Book & the Vogue Sewing Book and they both have instructions on the use of fabric weights and chains. In fact, they have a lot of instructions for fine details and hand finishing such as bound buttonholes and how to make your own frog fasteners etc. For anyone interested, I would suggest looking in charity shops or second-hand book shops for old sewing books. I think my Singer one dates from the 50's or 60's.
 
is there a thread where members can share the addresses of good vintage shops in various cities?
 
^^you could check the shop by city subforum...

some of the cities have specific vintage shopping threads..
I think New York and Boston do, and I'm sure others do as well

or posting in the specific city's thread would work as well :flower:
 
I'm really into oversized tops atm and came across this embroided granny top at a charity store over here. Thought it would be great as an oversized top.
 
^ Pretty! I have something almost identical to that in white linen... handed down to me from my mom :D
 
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I scored this wonderful vintage polka-dot top with lace details on the 'bib' part. wee! :woot:
 
I enjoy trawling through vintage stores...and often wander around the many vintage stores in London and Cape Town that I love. My favourite items to date that I have picked up are these two;
--> 1960s lizard skin "doctor's" bag which I found in Cape Town earlier this year. It needed some tlc, so I had to have the handles re-sewn, but it looks amazing now.
--> The shoes are Gordon Scott for Lindpere.
 
Luluposh (this is the second compliment I have posted about you in the last 5 minutes .... but) ..... that lizard 'doctors' bag is just TDF
 
Lovin_It --> Thank you ^_^ I was over the moon when I found it, and it is definitely one of my favourite bags!
 
luluposh, and they go so well together, I think. I love the shape of the bag. Very prim and ladylike, I love them. Excellent finds!
 
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