Virginie Viard - Designer

[Salvatore]

I am taking the gossip I heard with a grain of salt, but apparently she abruptly decided to leave without telling anyone beforehand from what I was told so maybe they DON'T have a plan in place after all ! DRAMA.

 

[tourbillions]

I am taking the gossip I heard with a grain of salt, but apparently she abruptly decided to leave without telling anyone beforehand from what I was told so maybe they DON'T have a plan in place after all ! DRAMA.

I like that for her. She didnt seem so proud to be chanels cd any way. Maybe shes someone who needs to work off of someones energy.

 

[TaylorBinque]

I do like the existing Chanel boutiques. It is very different than LV and Dior. I like that they arr not trying to reinvent the wheels or be edgy. The thought of Hedi-designed flagship boutique is already a nightmare in the making. Bright fluorescent, tacky white marble, cold polished racks and endless selection of jeans. Nonnnnnn

 

[PDFSD]

I like that for her. She didn't seem so proud to be chanels cd any way. Maybe she's someone who needs to work off of someones energy.

She was humble as a CD and prefered to be in the shadows yes and very no nonsense person no drama as she mentioned in the studio she likes things to run with calm and ease with and after KL and see she still made this move forward and making profit at Chanel, like the style or not agree some of it was not the best.

People with pride are everywhere and more people should take humble pie´s for the their output in there work being less than enough.

On a side note i don't understand so much the hate for the few women in top CS positions doing real clothes and sell well there is a big discrepancy with consumers of fashion as a sport or fan and actual buyers.

Yes Dior now is not like John´s crazy shows years but Christian Dior his original clothes are more close to what MGC is doing than John and its the Ralph Lauren of Princes Chic yes but why not get upset with all the woman buying it that dont even care to post or comment on social media about fashion or don't even know who Maria is lol

In the real sense of fashion Luxury as a brand you don't listen to the mass, you anticipate what they will like in the near future.
Its a balance for sure , its something KL was mentioning often he does not do or work with marketing people.

I think the only moments brands in general should listen to the mass is when they f.... up with quality and safety and racism and culture stuff and environmental issues everything else regarding the creation /creativity it should be: you get or like or love it or you don't shop at the brand and keep it moving.

There are so many bad bad male designers out there they don't get as much universal hate as the few that are not gay fantasy friendly female designers like Phoebe.
PPP is as boring as MGC yes only because he ad some dramatic gay flair on the same ideas its ok ?

 

[Nimsay]

huh?

Jeremy Scott was literally a joke name for decades and he showed up every day at Moschino and earned a name for himself. He took all that heavy brutal criticism and became better. Everyone agrees now he earned his place in fashion. Julien MacDonalds name is still in the dirt and its been 2 decades.

 

[LadyJunon]

I agree that Jeremy Scott would be the best choice,, mainly because of his capacity to reinvent himself and experiment with brand iconography.

I wouldn't be mad at Hedi being appointed, but it's just too narrow and rigid of an aesthetic for a brand like Chanel. I can't imagine 5 to 10 years of swinging Kleig lights all over the Grand Palais. rock music on loop, waifs with unwashed hair, everything shot in B&W. The brand fatigue would comes very quickly.

 

[tourbillions]

I agree that Jeremy Scott would be the best choice,, mainly because of his capacity to reinvent himself and experiment with brand iconography.

I wouldn't be mad at Hedi being appointed, but it's just too narrow and rigid of an aesthetic for a brand like Chanel. I can't imagine 5 to 10 years of swinging Kleig lights all over the Grand Palais. rock music on loop, waifs with unwashed hair, everything shot in B&W. The brand fatigue would comes very quickly.

as if he would have lasted more than 5 yrs

 

[Nimsay]

People hate VV and MGC for the same reasons people hate anyone. Lack of self awareness.

 

[yslforever]

I am taking the gossip I heard with a grain of salt, but apparently she abruptly decided to leave without telling anyone beforehand from what I was told so maybe they DON'T have a plan in place after all ! DRAMA.

With a grain of salt too; there were a lot of internal comments about her Marseille cruise and the decision to re-show it in Hong-Kong was an after-thought by the execs, because of the poor reception of the OG show... The decision was nearly imposed to her and there was some drama.
That would have been her tipping point.

 

[Lola701]

I feel like people who wants Jeremy Scott somehow wants to recapture the nostalgia of Chanel in the early 90’s. Do we need to relive a pastiche of Karl’s past styled again by Carlyne?
For me he is out of the equation…

 

[Olaffo]

I think we really need to ask ourselves what we want Chanel to be: is it just refreshed Karl 2.0 tenure, new approach in line with original codes or a modern idea of 2024’s Chanel - what would she make today had she lived ? I’m not a fan of throwing names for the sake of it and I’m the first to hope for a new opening with a new talent rather than dusting off skilled designers but with no flair or understanding the current needs. And frankly I’m sick of hearing non stop Heidi Heidi Heidi as if he was a messiah who will save the Chanel - quite frankly his aesthetics is partly in line with Chanel and he is more of a creative manager than actual designer, he is repeating probably 10 elements of wardrobe in different configurations every season and at every fashion house…

 

[yslforever]

I feel like people who wants Jeremy Scott somehow wants to recapture the nostalgia of Chanel in the early 90’s. Do we need to relive a pastiche of Karl’s past styled again by Carlyne?
For me he is out of the equation…

I honestly would like that full 90s ... I am not against joyful fashion.

 

[Salvatore]

I honestly would like that full 90s ... I am not against joyful fashion.

I agree. Fashion is lacking joy and exuberance ! I am 37, but I remember watching the fashion shows in the 90s as a kid and remembering the buzz, luxury, glamour, and FUN of it all. That's the feeling I want. Daniel Roseberry, who I have no problem with at all, thinks he is doing that, but there's no actual fun and wit to it.

 

[Nimsay]

Right thats why we need Marc!

 

[fenty]

I am taking the gossip I heard with a grain of salt, but apparently she abruptly decided to leave without telling anyone beforehand from what I was told so maybe they DON'T have a plan in place after all ! DRAMA.

Why is her departure making me love her, as you should Virginie!

 

[chanelh]

ok John Galliano just cleared his ins, I mean I can't think of anyone more qualified than him for this role, except the scandal, but come on! It was just a mistake many years ago and it's not like that Karl was so innocent, he had many careless speeches himself as well. Let the ultimate dream come true!!!

 

[brandon J pierre]

She was humble as a CD and prefered to be in the shadows yes and very no nonsense person no drama as she mentioned in the studio she likes things to run with calm and ease with and after KL and see she still made this move forward and making profit at Chanel, like the style or not agree some of it was not the best.

People with pride are everywhere and more people should take humble pie´s for the their output in there work being less than enough.

On a side note i don't understand so much the hate for the few women in top CS positions doing real clothes and sell well there is a big discrepancy with consumers of fashion as a sport or fan and actual buyers.

Yes Dior now is not like John´s crazy shows years but Christian Dior his original clothes are more close to what MGC is doing than John and its the Ralph Lauren of Princes Chic yes but why not get upset with all the woman buying it that dont even care to post or comment on social media about fashion or don't even know who Maria is lol

In the real sense of fashion Luxury as a brand you don't listen to the mass, you anticipate what they will like in the near future.
Its a balance for sure , its something KL was mentioning often he does not do or work with marketing people.

I think the only moments brands in general should listen to the mass is when they f.... up with quality and safety and racism and culture stuff and environmental issues everything else regarding the creation /creativity it should be: you get or like or love it or you don't shop at the brand and keep it moving.

There are so many bad bad male designers out there they don't get as much universal hate as the few that are not gay fantasy friendly female designers like Phoebe.
PPP is as boring as MGC yes only because he ad some dramatic gay flair on the same ideas its ok ?

110 % agree with you, these women are getting to much hate! I not a big fan but come on , and not to mention these awful ig pages and the comments. If these people and there voices start to control the designers then you will lose focus and will end up having a collection for H&m. Some of these ig fashion critics say the worst things without a real understanding for the rich and what women actually what.

 

[blueorchid]

On a side note i don't understand so much the hate for the few women in top CS positions doing real clothes and sell well there is a big discrepancy with consumers of fashion as a sport or fan and actual buyers.

There are so many bad bad male designers out there they don't get as much universal hate as the few that are not gay fantasy friendly female designers like Phoebe.
PPP is as boring as MGC yes only because he ad some dramatic gay flair on the same ideas its ok ?

I think there are a lot of reasons for this, but... there could never be an interesting or thoughtful discussion about this on tFS. Not when certain members accused MGC of getting her position at Dior only because she has ovaries. If I have to guess, Virginie was successful at fulfilling her brief at Chanel. Keeping it going between the interim period between Karl and the real Chanel successor. Good for her for leaving. Imagine putting up with Karl for 30 years and this is the bullsh*t you leave over?

ok John Galliano just cleared his ins, I mean I can't think of anyone more qualified than him for this role, except the scandal, but come on! It was just a mistake many years ago and it's not like that Karl was so innocent, he had many careless speeches himself as well. Let the ultimate dream come true!!!

Galliano at Chanel sounds like a f*cking nightmare, jesus. Totally the antithesis of Chanel herself, sorry... well... in terms of fashion, at least.

 

[brandon J pierre]

ok John Galliano just cleared his ins, I mean I can't think of anyone more qualified than him for this role, except the scandal, but come on! It was just a mistake many years ago and it's not like that Karl was so innocent, he had many careless speeches himself as well. Let the ultimate dream come true!!!
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Well if you know the history of Chanel the scandal might get him the promotion 😭 😂

 

[chanelh]

Well if you know the history of Chanel the scandal might get him the promotion 😭 😂

Lol don't be so harsh haha, again no one is really innocent, just how you present yourself