Vogue Italia November 2024 : Lana Del Rey by Steven Meisel

Honestly, I’m just knee jerk anti-contemporary Meisel. No sense will be talked into me! I don’t think his portraits offer anything special in 2024! Period.

If you want to stop me from talking sh*t about Meisel…
 
I love Lana portraits! Really wish the editorial were longer though. I'm afraid the layout might ruin the pictures so if anyone can share what that looks like, I'd appreciate it. I guess they don't have the budget for a proper art director anymore.

Although magazines are dead, I'm just glad Meisel hasn't abandoned us. I mean he could have but he didn't. He's still out here photographing current pop stars - something he wouldn't do back in those days.
 
Honestly, I’m just knee jerk anti-contemporary Meisel. No sense will be talked into me! I don’t think his portraits offer anything special in 2024! Period.

If you want to stop me from talking sh*t about Meisel…

Lol... no one wants to stop you 😅 , you have an understandable point, just wanted to be fair on the other side of the whole situation. Something similar happened with Karl before dying. Everyone here were hating on him collection after collection during his last days: he's too old to be creative enough anymore, go home please, etc etc. When the man died, everyone was tearing their clothes, calling him a legend, Chanel is lost forever now, blah blah blah.

I can bet anything, everyone here complaining about Meisel will do the same when his time comes, but worse. Again, considering most of the other options giving us these days hints of real fashion imaginary, I'm glad the guy hasn't retired yet.
 
@Legolas agree with everything you wrote.

Anyone who even attempts to mention Meisel in the same breath with Luigi and Iango though, I can't take what they say seriously even if behind the unnecessary moaning there's a glimpse of a valid point. No one competes with imitators, especially those who have done so repeatedly for over 10yrs and get recognized for exactly that. It goes unsaid that to be rivals means to have at least some respect for one another. A lot of photographers entertains the thought of being competitive with Meisel, perhaps in their head and to their audience it highlights their worth to some degree.. It's a monologue though, not a dialogue. One is effortless, the others would benefit from a little less effort.

It's also lazy to expect to be thrilled and excited by a 70 year old who's been doing consistently that for 30+ years. At this point, we who love him accept him exactly for what and who he is. On a lazy day he can be frustrating. Sometimes he gets inspired for a client who pays him enough. It is what it is. On this topic though, let's lay out all fashion editorials and covers Lana did her whole career and see if this batch stands out. I've followed her long enough to understand as beautiful as she is, she's not model-photogenic. Plus, the cultural significance of being captured by Meisel is storytelling enough.

All that aside, I've stopped waiting for that same magic from this man. If it does happen again, it better be surprising. If not, I'm content with what he already gave.
 
Leave the old man alone! Jeez. I just wanna see the content/editorials please somebody post. Thank you. End of
 
Meisel is legend. He will always be. That doesn’t make this shoot good tho. She looks like she was photographed by Ned Rogers assistant
 
On this topic though, let's lay out all fashion editorials and covers Lana did her whole career and see if this batch stands out. I've followed her long enough to understand as beautiful as she is, she's not model-photogenic. Plus, the cultural significance of being captured by Meisel is storytelling enough.
So now we have to look at all the photographs of a celebrity/model to appreciate Meisel’s work? Huh? Sure, I’m willing to believe these portraits are better than what a third rate photographer at Nylon or Flaunt would do, but to be honest LDR hasn’t been on my radar in over a decade. I’m not convinced that a November VI cover is truly culturally significant anymore.
 
So now we have to look at all the photographs of a celebrity/model to appreciate Meisel’s work? Huh? Sure, I’m willing to believe these portraits are better than what a third rate photographer at Nylon or Flaunt would do, but to be honest LDR hasn’t been on my radar in over a decade. I’m not convinced that a November VI cover is truly culturally significant anymore.
Who cares if it is not the September issue or whatever? Vogue Italia + Meisel will always make people talk. Also, Lana alone makes it culturally significant. She clearly hasn't been under your radar. Girl just earned her highest grossing concert of all-time just last year, with $5.326 million at Foro Sol in Mexico City, 64614 tickets sold. It gets harder and harder to find relevant tickets for new concerts. All the "newbies" of the moment (Billie, Charli, Olivia, etc) influencing the newest generations by praising her non-stop as one of their biggest influences. This only ensures new fans in the future of consumers and reinforces her iconic status. She is the moment, and not a trendy passing one, facts prove she is now reaping the sweet fruits of growing slowly during the past decade, as a result of being consistently loyal to her own artistic style.
 
She seems to have made bigger headlines for marrying a Louisiana tour guide, but that's pop culture for you.
 
She seems to have made bigger headlines for marrying a Louisiana tour guide, but that's pop culture for you.
Who said that's pop culture? That's just regular media gossip, but actually, now that you mention it, the fact people cared so much and this created so many headlines, reinforces everything I said before.
 
No doubt Meisel is an institution. And this institution's been predictably uninspired, even blatantly lazy at this point in his career— down to the expected recycling of his past glories to a watered down version for current consumption. Which is a tad irritating for someone whose creative trajectory to high fashion was once so relentlessly, impressively, breathlessly daring— even with all the tributes to the past Great, for over 2 decades. HIs last solid output was his shoot with Linda for WSJ, where both her and Meisel showcased they still possess traces of that high fashion magic. But frankly, the shoot, down to the mood, was just recycled from his shoot with Madonna for her "Truth or Dare”. But none of his current efforts— as decent, even solid as a few may be, will possess the potency, the inspiration that the best of his past glories so effortlessly imprint on fashion imagery. …It’s not unfair to say that this shoot won’t be remembered by the next issue of this rag.

This shoot doesn't improve when you see it in its full layout: A couple of very solid selects, the rest filler. Once upon time, he would put in the effort to tell a complete story with Franca’s Vogue. Nowadays, his editorial shoots all feel incomplete, or quickly abandoned. Of course, back then he was likely given as many pages as needed to tell a story, unlike these frugal days.The last shot of her: close-cropped and looking up— complete with fried 60s-hair, is pure Hitchcock Tippi Hedren blonde bombshell. But the only captivating image that looks modern, is her in the Vuitton top with the feathers in her face, creating an alluring veil effect. Only two solid images. Unfortunate that this is as good as it will get. So I absolutely understand why @blueorchid is a tad frustrated with such a weak effort getting a pass. Standards are so low these days. BTW @blueorchid Annie’s never been the highest of fashion royalty— or even a fashion groupie, frankly. She’s never been a fashion force that influenced styling, casting and the daring mood of the moment, the way that Meisel had been with Franca’s Vogue and the campaigns he’s defined; She’s closer to a Hollywood cinematographer for celebs in red carpet styling than a fashion photographer whith an eye for new faces and new ideas. It’s why some are so loyal to Meisel and never Annie. People likely feel like he’s one of us.

LANA DEL REY
Photography:
Steven Meisel
Styling: Karl Templer
Hair: Guido Palau
Make-up: Pat McGrath
Model/Celebrity: Lana Del Rey
Credits courtesy of @Zorka

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Vogue Italia November 2024
 
@Phuel I never said that Annie was a fashion darling, you and my friend @ivano seem to misinterpret why I'm bringing her up. She's another long-established photographer who shoots for Vogue (just like Meisel). The others I could compare Meisel to are either dead or not working due to being cancelled/retired. Of course she's not fashion royalty. I'm mentioning her as a *contemporary* who gets a lot of flack for work that is NO WORSE than Meisel's current output. That's it! Why is criticizing one and not the other acceptable? I guess it might come down to thinking Meisel is "one of us" (lol).
 
I think in dire times, having an institution at all even in a lesser state is a blessing. Lana's fans seemed really happy. Anyone would be happy to have that last picture, it solidifies your status in a way. He's very selective with celebs and tons of others tried and failed to have his name in their book for sure.
On Annie Leibovitz: they both went through the school of American Vogue so they both had a tendency towards Hollywood epics, true, but Meisel always has had something of his own to offer in terms of style that Annie didn't and still doesn't. Susan Train, Vogue's Bureau Chief in Paris, mentioned both of them in the same breath when she touched on this. That's why I think on the fashion front he's managed to evolve and Annie stays in her block with her dated filters, still making silent Westerns out of her subjects regardless of who they are.

On modern Meisel: in a way, his post-production doesn't rub me the wrong way as it occasionally used to, it's more seamless and when he really likes someone he gives them a magnificent picture. He's also never overwhelmed by who he shoots, always in control. But as he once stated in that 032C interview (or was it the WSJ) there is a point where you just do not connect with teenage girls of the world anymore, no matter how beautiful they are, and since he never betrayed his self-imposed niche that's 95% of his subject choices. I think that explains the lack of passion in the pictures, but that's also where the integrity lies, even for something as shallow as fashion. When Irving Penn was desperate he shot chickens, mind you. More impressive is that he always emerges unscathed, through the supermodels, through cold war with Anna, through the end of his VI run and Franca, through cancel culture... always ahead of the times as a player. Always had his way, and that he hasn't sold out his undeniable legacy of a catalogue like many others do just as they dip their virgin feet into treacherous water (to really illustrate this, please check out Tyler Mitchell's Masterclass.) Super rare no matter how you look at it. It's ok for him to chill and suck every once in a while.
 

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