Vogue Netherlands December 2024 : Ugbad Abdi by Wikkie Hermkens

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She's so beautiful, I wish I could easily get hold of this issue - but there's also something nice about yearning from afar, instead of spending money to find out just how disappointing yet another edition of Vogue is.
 
she looks gorgeous and the editorial is great!
 
Wow, this is marvellous. Ugbad looked her absolut best in here, not only physically, but also in regards of modelling skills.
This is great!
 
Always get the impression that the cringiest of virtual-signalling is always by and from the most very Whitest of regions, to the point of coming across overcompensating, cluelessly tone-deaf, and even offensive in their desperate plead to be as progressive as possible LMFAO

I won’t deny I’m always suspicious of anyone wearing their religious affiliation on their sleeve rather than keeping their Faith personal, more so in the context of fashion. Having many Iranian friends— some of whom still identify as Muslim, the hijab is this constant reminder to them of oppression that they reluctantly tolerate, but find frustrating when the Western media glamorizes it in all its conservative blandness but without daring to revision it as a fashion high concept (for obvious reasons). And more so in the current situation with Ahou Daryaei braving the most extreme of Islam’s wrath with her unbelievably balls-of-steel protest. This Vogue devotes a coverstory to a devout, pious Black Muslim model just seems so… (un)intentionally(?) dismissive of an individual like Ahou, even if the timing isn’t this Vogue's fault. …But I can’t imagine any fashion rag devoting and glamorizing a conservative, devout Christian— or devout Hindu model, wearing her Faith on her sleeve so proudly. Maybe the Nederland team should cast someone like Ayaan Hirsi Ali for the coverstory since she’s as lethally intelligent as she’s naturally gorgeous-- or book a holiday to Tehran (and invite the “Queers for Palestine” while they’re at it) to open their eyes a tad… Some fashion people can be so proudly prejudiced, discriminating, and just obnoxiously naive-- all in the most cringiest of efforts to prove that they’re not prejudiced, not discriminating and not stubbornly naive LMFAO

Slight rant aside about devoutly religious people on the cover of a fashion magazine, devoting 30 pages to Ugbad along with the 6 page feature seems overkill— and overcompensating, especially when the only other fashion story is a homely advertorial for Chanel looks like such an afterthought LOL Ugbad’s story is admittedly solidly shot but nothing worthy of fashion remembrance, and I could do without the inclusion of her equally devout, pious fam. These people aren’t models so WTF...
 
^ most Americans are devout Christians!

(that’s my generalization for the day, come get me, americans!)

Did you actually click on the ig post and hit translate? lol or is it just the hijab that’s triggering you? ngl I tend to find it visually unappealing but then I find everything visually unappealing (berets, knitted hats in soft colors, NY or Marant baseball caps, the list goes on). I didn’t even register it. Ugbad is stunning and these pictures are so Lindbergh-esque that.. find me on my knees🧎‍♀️.. the story could be twice as long and I’d just be grateful. 🥲
 
^^^Maybe so. But devout religious Christians aren’t fawned upon on the cover of a fashion publication.

Not at all triggered by the hijab. People are free to wear their personal Faiths freely here in the West (but forced upon women in other parts of the world). I just find it annoying when it’s presented in the context of a high fashion story. Eh.

(And it is a gorgeously shot and even styled story. Would be even better had there been a cast of ME models with her, maybe some ME women that doesn't cover her head... instead of her fam.)
 
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what I don't get is how it's immodest (and in some countries punishable by death) for ordinary women to go to their job or the store with their hair visible, yet it's okay to be a fashion model and pose on the cover of a magazine for the eyes of millions?
 
Phuel said:
^^^Maybe so. But devout religious Christians aren’t fawned upon on the cover of a fashion publication.

Not at all triggered by the hijab. People are free to wear their personal Faiths freely here in the West (but forced upon women in other parts of the world). I just find it annoying when it’s presented in the context of a high fashion story. Eh.

(And it is a gorgeously shot and even styled story. Would be even better had there been a cast of ME models with her, maybe some ME women that doesn't cover her head... instead of her fam.)
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I feel like it would be annoying with that cast of Middle Eastern models, very Vogue Arabia, or Vogue Italia back in the day, a bit gimmicky and self-serving and like 'look how we care, and look at all these models.. that you won't ever see together again' lol. This story is about her, so no need for others.

I rarely see hijabs in my daily life (don't know why cause.. diverse city, I just don't) so this being a hijab totally flew over my head to be honest.. I have seen great stories ruined by stupid hairstyles so this is kind of chic in my eyes. Whether she's wearing it for a religious reason? I... could not care less. Am I triggered by it sometimes? yeah, do burqas give me a little something upon first glance? yeah!. Same goes for other things like walking two steps behind the man, BBLs, trad wives, you name it. But then I come back to my senses as a woman, and remember that we all navigate our cultures and small environments with pretty aggressive expectations on what women must look to the best of our abilities. I wear my hair long and I expect long hair in magazines and I'd clutch my effin' pearls if someone dared push fully bald women (not shaved, BALD) on magazines. Long hair is not practical, it's costly, it's definitely a drag in the summer but I, like most women, have been wired to see this compliance with femininity (where hair is just one of many components) as something that secures a spot in a society that is not ran by us, and you can take me anywhere in this world but the indoctrination runs so deep in my mind that I will go out of my way to not cover my hair in a muslim country.. I have, and it was painful, and you can tell me 'yEaH cAuSe YoU aRe So FrEe!', but hopefully, we are aware that shaving your head off as a woman in the West, is some kind of downfall, it can be deeply traumatising whether it's by choice, illness or domestic violence because it affirms us socially and culturally, for no reason. So, while yes, I'm not going to get torched by shaving my head off and can do it if I want to, and certainly no woman in the Netherlands is going to get that by removing her hijab either, my point is that your environment has an impact and is not as easy as it is for men to just say fck it when it comes to how you carry yourself. I don't expect ordinary men to understand that but maybe men who want to profit in womenswear should make an effort to see from this side.

I was raised very Catholic so I will say that the Christian whataboutism with the mandatory, out of the blue hypocrisy ('why is this modest and why is this not? 😩 ')... that's how we roll 🌝.. I will certainly turn it on depending on the topic and personally nothing makes forbidden fruit more enjoyable than thinking everyone else (esp those under other equally bs beliefs) is more repressed, hypocritical, and borderline immoral. Just.. men.. men saying something we use as women is more restrictive than something else that is also anchored on nothing but views on femininity... tell🪈me 🪈more.

Bottom line is, she looks stunning with her hair MIA, most of us would look like dudes.

And a high fashion story is a fantasy of what is aspirational, but that fantasy has never operated independently or with more tact than what society has to offer to us, the beauty sector immediately responds to where we're at socially, economically and politically.
 
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^^^ Mullet’s posts always ends up revealing a glimpse of a-day-in-the-life-of-Mullet LOL

Somalian women generally have that face shape and refined features that are enhanced when they wear their hair pulled back in a tight chignon; …don’t quite get how you’re seeing “bald” LMFAO And when they possess model-standard features and the height and physique, then they’re on another level. I worked with a group of Somalian models, and every single frame they took was good, from every angle. (And long hair to many women is what a beard is to many men— I’d even say the overwhelming majority of men will instantly improve their looks if they grow a decent beard. Except for fat men convinced that their beards give them a jawline LOOOL)

The annoyance with the story is, first of all…who cares about her fam…??? Just like who cares if you’re a pregnant model: You’re not Demi Moore…??? Unless they’re my friend, my boyfriend, I don’t care about your fam and your pregnancy on the cover of a fashion magazine. And again, it’s not the religious symbol of her covering, it’s that it’s fully displayed, with not a dare to elevate it as a high fashion concept— like Gaultier did with his "Rabbi Chic” collection. That particular collection of course had its share of controversy and criticism, but it definitely did not incite sacrilege, which elevating the hijab to high fashion absolutely would. High fashion is escapism, fantasy, dreamweaving, and bringing in a, like @tomtakesphotos posted, a solemn/drab reality, kills the fantasy. It isn’t an annoyance with Ugbad nor with women living in the west that have freely chosen to cover themselves, and I’d be an absolute hypocrite to drag someone for being religiously conservative when I’m going on about freedom of choice etc.

But most of all, my annoyance is with a high fashion publication from a predominantly White region, and their glamorization of again— a solemn symbol, one that means oppression to whole other group of people, in Iran, the ME and the West. Seriously, cast Ayaan Hirsi Ali on the cover of their Vogue, if they want a true “Female Force”.

EDEN21 said:
what I don't get is how it's immodest (and in some countries punishable by death) for ordinary women to go to their job or the store with their hair visible, yet it's okay to be a fashion model and pose on the cover of a magazine for the eyes of millions?
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Because Ugbad lives in the US and is on the cover of Vogue Nederland— not living in Afghanistan and on the cover of Vogue Iran LOL
 
OMG these forums have unfortunately became so toxic. If the girl wears hijab, that’s her right, let her be, judge fashion and styling not start debate about religion!!! It’s like you give a child a finger and he wants the whole hand. Like seriously… I am getting fed up with this… These are FASHION forums or they used to be. I don’t care for politics, religion and other personal matters, I come here to escape to a bit of glamour. Not everything needs to be cultural inappropriation… not everybody have second thoughts about everything. Talk about fashion or leave. Okay!
 
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