Which stores would you like to see non-standard sizing in?

[softgrey]

hemming a skirt is $5 ...
or free if you do it yourself...
skirts are the EASIEST thing to alter...

you just want to argue...
..

but your points don't really hold water...
i've suggested a NUMBER of solutions....real ones that work...
but you just have this agenda that you are trying to push...
i suspect that you make petite sized clothing...
and just want more sales outlets...

the truth is that petite people have way more options than anyone else for the most part...with very few exceptions...

 

[adorefaith]

As for alterations, as I've repeated over and over, it's not always perfect

you said it yourself....repeated over and over....
writergal28, you need to allow for other people's opinions.....and this thread would be far more enjoyable if you were OPEN to solutions imo....
it's boring to just complain about the way things are.....
god knows there are far more important miseries in the world than having to take your pants to get tailored....or having to work a bit harder to find clothes that fit your particular proportions....boo hoo....

sorry to be blunt but this thread just sounds like a big sob session....
why not embrace some of the alternatives and solutions, as softgrey suggested?.....it's all well and good to identify a weak point in the fashion industry, but terribly boring to keep harping on about how bad it all is....

every solution that is offered doesnt seem good enough for you....
be innovative and work with what you have.....

 

[writergal28]

I'm pretty much pointing out the issues that shorter women face. Anti-petite people like Softgrey are pointing out theirs. I think we're both pretty much doing the same thing. I'd like to see more options out there, for women of all different sizes, yet it seems that people make a bigger deal out of larger sizes than short women. In fact, most people don't even acknowledge short women. While media do point out a petite celeb's height once in a while, it isn't done too often. However people go on and on about, say America Fererra's size (though not her height...she's actually quite petite). There are plenty of women out there who are doing the same thing I'm doing...we have blogs and/or websites dedicated to the petite woman and their issues and to promote designers, brands and stores specializing in petite sizes (because mainstream media isn't doing that right now).

Christa Jean's site, Petite Fashionista and a site from the UK, Petite Personal Shopper are just two of many out there.

 

[adorefaith]

i think you're being awfully presumptuous...
it's actually quite funny....
i dont know how long you've been around here, but i'm fairly sure softgrey is around 5'4 which is considered petite.....and i am roughly the same height.....so to call her (or anyone, for that matter) "anti petite" is not only ridiculous but quite simply FUNNY....

as for mainstream media not "promoting" petite sizes, i have no idea what you're talking about....
isnt the media constantly talking about the size/height of stars like mary kate and ashley olsen and nicole richie ?? and what does mainstream media have to do with it anyway? are you telling me you cant wear clothes because you're so disadvantaged by the selection of clothes out there in mainstream stores?.....i dont know where you're shopping but with all due respect, that claim is absurd....

what you're not doing is acknowledging anyone's posts but your own....
you are not interested in accepting solutions or opening your mind to a different perspective....it seems you're here to classify people into "pro petite" and "anti petite" groups, which seems laughable to me.....

lighten up.....embrace your size!!!.....

 

[writergal28]

i think you're being awfully presumptuous...
it's actually quite funny....
i dont know how long you've been around here, but i'm fairly sure softgrey is around 5'4 which is considered petite.....and i am roughly the same height.....so to call her (or anyone, for that matter) "anti petite" is not only ridiculous but quite simply FUNNY....

as for mainstream media not "promoting" petite sizes, i have no idea what you're talking about....
isnt the media constantly talking about the size/height of stars like mary kate and ashley olsen and nicole richie ?? and what does mainstream media have to do with it anyway? are you telling me you cant wear clothes because you're so disadvantaged by the selection of clothes out there in mainstream stores?.....i dont know where you're shopping but with all due respect, that claim is absurd....

what you're not doing is acknowledging anyone's posts but your own....
you are not interested in accepting solutions or opening your mind to a different perspective....it seems you're here to classify people into "pro petite" and "anti petite" groups, which seems laughable to me.....

lighten up.....embrace your size!!!.....

Actually, the media don't always bring up the Olsen Twins or Nicole Richie's height. They are more likely to talk about their weight. What I also don't understand is why people here are always telling petite women to send things to the tailor when there the option to shop petite is available in some cases. And in other cases, it's a matter of encouragement. I'm sure that many stores that currently sell petite sizes stock them because people spoke up. Remember the angry mob of women who threatened to boycott Saks last year because they shut down the petite department? Well, the angry mob of women worked. So with encouragement, I'm sure things can change. It's people like Softgrey and you who are preventing it from happening.

Also, there are many petite designers out there, but their work never gets a peep from mainstream media. Many do good work and deserve to be discussed outside of blogs and local papers.

 

[brokenenglish]

i think you're being awfully presumptuous...
it's actually quite funny....
i dont know how long you've been around here, but i'm fairly sure softgrey is around 5'4 which is considered petite.....and i am roughly the same height.....so to call her (or anyone, for that matter) "anti petite" is not only ridiculous but quite simply FUNNY....


lighten up.....embrace your size!!!.....

The anti-petite comment made me laugh too.

If you consider Softgrey anti petite then I am considering you anti tall and long limbed.

And yes, the media does love to talk about how minituare the Olsens are...
it's actually greatly debated in their thread how short they actually are.

I think petite or not everyone should have a good tailor....

 

[Trista]

That is true, tailoring can definitely help.

My problem is that I'm not petite (I do consider myself short-5'6), but I'm curvier, and I have very short legs. I know that places like Hollister will do short lengths, but only in smaller sizes. I went for some khakis for work and the 11R was still way too long. I'm not about to buy Apple Bottoms or anything like that...ever. I just wish that the larger sizes in the regular spectrum (9, 11, 13) would come in shorter lengths.

 

[Guessgirl96]

I'm 5'3", most dresses are too long on me and tops are too low cut but like softgrey said I find ways around it. Most dresses can be hemmed or taken up at the straps, and I wear tanks underneath a too low cut top. Its rare that I have to pass on something b/c its not made for my height. I did end up paying $150 shortening a lanvin dress but most alterations arent too bad.

 

[writergal28]

Can we get back on topic, please? I'd like to hear some feedback on people who might be seeking out plus-sizes too. Remember, non-standardized sizes means plus, petite and plus-petite.

 

[alix*]

**non-standard**= petite, plus, petite-plus, etc

And would you shop there more if they did?

Personally, I'd like to see petite sizing in European stores like Zara or Mango.

I don't know whether you mean smaller jeans or tops, but I would like to see smaller tops.
Even a small sometimes doens't fit me.

And what is with really long straps? Are my boobs supposed to be exposed like that!?

 

[kissmesweet]

I really get angry when Zara, H&M don't have petite sizing...

 

[softgrey]

I'm pretty much pointing out the issues that shorter women face. Anti-petite people like Softgrey are pointing out theirs. I think we're both pretty much doing the same thing. I'd like to see more options out there, for women of all different sizes, yet it seems that people make a bigger deal out of larger sizes than short women. In fact, most people don't even acknowledge short women. While media do point out a petite celeb's height once in a while, it isn't done too often. However people go on and on about, say America Fererra's size (though not her height...she's actually quite petite). There are plenty of women out there who are doing the same thing I'm doing...we have blogs and/or websites dedicated to the petite woman and their issues and to promote designers, brands and stores specializing in petite sizes (because mainstream media isn't doing that right now).

Christa Jean's site, Petite Fashionista and a site from the UK, Petite Personal Shopper are just two of many out there.

seriously honey...
you don't want to be calling me or anyone else here names now...do you?>

...

how can i be anti petite...?
i am offering REAL solutions and options...
from real life experience as someone who IS petite and has tried petite clothing vs standard size clothing...
and who makes their living helping people look their best...
the answer is not to try to re-size every garment out there...
but to find what suits your PERSONAL style and body best...
GG's solutions are perfect examples...


and the mainstream media DOES address these issues...
that is what the SIZE issues are for and Lucky magazine does this 'dress for your body type' in almost every issue...
there are issues about find the right jeans for your body and find the right swimsuit for your body...
etc....

EVERY woman has certain figure concerns...
and they should ALL be addressed and i think we should applaud the fact that they finally are and that we are seeing some improvement finally...

i dont' think we need more petite sizing..
we need styles that work on more than one body type...
it's not a matter of a different scale...but a more forgiving design...
that is the broader solution which acomodates the most women...
ie- the babydoll dress..
can be worn by most women- regardless of size, height, shape, etc...
leggings...another good example...

this is why so many of these items sold and were so popular...


and the truth of the matter is- if something is too big- you can always take it in...
but if it's too small..you are screwed....
so there is a very major difference between plus women and small women...
plus women are screwed a lot more of the time..
petite women have WAY more options...





as i said-
i believe you must make petite clothing and that is the reason for your agenda...
true or false?

 

[writergal28]

I don't make petite clothing, softgrey. I'm a writer, blogger and activist for the petite cause. Yes, I admit that. I started doing this after being sick and tired of hearing about plus sized activists on entertainment magazine shows and the like, so I started my website, Shorty Stories (though this was probably a full year after Petite Personal Shopper...You should visit that if you haven't already done so)

Also, the "dress your body" issues and columns of magazines only address one type of petite body. The short and skinny. You don't get advice for a shorter, average body or a shorter, plus-sized body.

Sometimes, our worst enemies are ourselves.

By the way, let me know what you think of Petite Personal Shopper and The Petite Fashionista.

 

[softgrey]

Sometimes, our worst enemies are ourselves.

you said a mouthful there ......

what i think of your blogs?
i think your time would be better spent on causes that save lives or improve living conditions ...how about health care for the poor or elderly...
etc...

that is what i think- since you asked and all..

 

[Bel]

I'm pretty much pointing out the issues that shorter women face. Anti-petite people like Softgrey are pointing out theirs. I think we're both pretty much doing the same thing. I'd like to see more options out there, for women of all different sizes, yet it seems that people make a bigger deal out of larger sizes than short women. In fact, most people don't even acknowledge short women. While media do point out a petite celeb's height once in a while, it isn't done too often. However people go on and on about, say America Fererra's size (though not her height...she's actually quite petite). There are plenty of women out there who are doing the same thing I'm doing...we have blogs and/or websites dedicated to the petite woman and their issues and to promote designers, brands and stores specializing in petite sizes (because mainstream media isn't doing that right now).

Christa Jean's site, Petite Fashionista and a site from the UK, Petite Personal Shopper are just two of many out there.

If you want to talk about how bad you've got it, allow me to do the same thing.

J. Crew has petites. Banana Republic has petites. Even cheap sh*t like Gap does. The high end designers do not, I'll give you that, but the middle range is all over it. All this, while a huge array of women's styles are not tailored and thus, fit a large range of proportions.

Men have nothing but suits--tailored clothing. The only way for a short man to get properly fitting clothing is by doing full blown custom made. I would much rather have J. Crew fit and not any top-of-the-line designers, than to be forced into the most expensive labels.

It isn't fair that petites get less attention than plus sizes, but short men get the least of all.

 

[Bel]

Also, the "dress your body" issues and columns of magazines only address one type of petite body. The short and skinny. You don't get advice for a shorter, average body or a shorter, plus-sized body.

Not true at all.

 

[writergal28]

Not true at all.

Actually, it is. You DO get advice non-skinnies with an average height, but not short. The only time I've ever seen advice for short non-skinnies was in a book put together by US What Not To Wear hosts, Stacey London and Clinton Kelly.

 

[Bel]

Just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Seventeen does profiles on every body type in practically every issue including skinny petites, super plus size petites, and average petites. Granted, Seventeen isn't the zenith of fashion, but it at least exists which is more than you say. Health magazine, More, and I'm sure if I read any fashion magazines other than the ones my 50 year old mom orders, them too.