2012 : is the world ending? and what happens after that?

[ednafrau]

last summer i went to the museo de alta montaña in salta (northern argentina), and there my boyfriend and i spoke for hours with an expert in mayan and andes culture, and he told me that 12-21-12 isn't the end of the world, it will be - as others have said in this thread - a shift in consciousness...whatever happens, be it of natural origin or provoked by man, will result in a change of the world as we know it. he said that extreme individualism and blind ambition will no longer be an option; there will be a return to community and cooperation and connection to nature and spirituality. the people who can't adapt and insist on the "old values" and selfish materialism won't survive, apparently...i'm usually quite skeptical but it doesn't sound impossible. i don't know, i'll believe it when it happens. all i know is that it may be a drastic change, but apparently, in the long run, it'll be for the better. post december 2012, the world will still exist, renewed. this isn't to say i'm not a little scared, but it all comes down to living life to the fullest and giving priority to what is truly important, cataclismic events notwithstanding.

 

[jennifer~]

I'm getting a feeling of 2001: A Space Odyssey combined with One Hundred Years of Solitude. (Two of my all-time favorites... )

 

[Deleted member 82231]

I don't recall of Bush personally chopping off people's heads. I guess I'm wrong.

That would be Sooooooooooo Henry VIII of him. Been done!

 

[fashionkitten7]

One of the first things I thought after I read the first post in this thread was "So, is it what only 8 seasons of the shows left ?"

To the subjuct: I hope it's not true neither in the way of that it would be a natural catasrophe/war, nor in the way of awakening the human consciousness. I'm used to the world the way it is. I don't want anything to change.

 

[fashionkitten7]

When i was very young a middle Eastern religion predicted the end of the world on a certain date and it was published in many papers. One of my classmates terrorized the rest of us because she believed she was one of the chosen ones who was going to be singled out to be saved. Well the date came near and I became physically sick at home and my mom put me to bed even though I didn't have any of the classic symptoms. The date came and went and I was still alive and quickly recovered and couldn't wait to get back to school to knock the living s**t out of our doomsday enemy.....the moral of this story is to take each day as it comes....make sure your doing what makes you happy and stop worrying about whats going to happen down the line.

Do you mean like literally ? Were you a bully at school or something ?

 

[fashionkitten7]

its just our natural human instincts to think our time is THE time judgement/apocolypse will come.

Good point !

 

[fashionkitten7]

whatever happens, be it of natural origin or provoked by man, will result in a change of the world as we know it. he said that extreme individualism and blind ambition will no longer be an option; there will be a return to community and cooperation and connection to nature and spirituality. the people who can't adapt and insist on the "old values" and selfish materialism won't survive, apparently...

This sounds a lot like the judgement day to me. I hope it's not true. Besides, I don't see how becoming a community and living a less selfish lives combines with other people not surviving due to not fitting in...

 

[ednafrau]

^what the man meant was that they wouldn't survive in the figurative sense, meaning they might not be able to accept or refuse to accept the change and therefore would not survive, as in be able to adapt and live well (not that others would kill them!)
anyway, who knows if it will indeed happen? a part of me doesn't want anything to change out of fear of the unknown as well!

the main thing to remember always is: carpe diem! seize the day

 

[Fabulyss]

Throughout time human beings have been claiming the end of the world is near, and of course, were continually proven wrong. It is an innate, self-obssessed fear that all humans have, have had, and will have.

I'm hoping 2012 will be the end of religion!!

 

[Nemova]

Throughout time human beings have been claiming the end of the world is near, and of course, were continually proven wrong. It is an innate, self-obssessed fear that all humans have, have had, and will have.

I'm hoping 2012 will be the end of religion!!

You do know that it's the people who make wars, not religion or God, right?

I can't wait for a huge change of pace to come and make the world a better place to live in for all of us.

 

[Uchina]

I'm hoping 2012 will be the end of religion!!

Cheers to that! I understand that it's people who create war, and that war will still happen when we evolve beyond faith, but religion is such a dreadful tool of manipulation.

 

[Nemova]

^Can't help but roll my eyes again. So you believe that religion is for the less evolved who like being manipulated? Oh dear....

 

[justinleaddict]

^ actually you are sort of manipulating yourself

religion is an illusion. sorry, but deal with it...


The destruction of Earth won't happen in one day... it will be caused solely by humans and it is happening right now.

 

[MulletProof]

oh come on justin, you can do better than just repeating marx's words.. how about elaborating on your arguments for a change? why is it an illusion according to you?, do you really believe that any form of mentality, beliefs or standards is impossible to achieve for human beings?, I'm sure the concept of religion isn't that narrow, it doesn't constitute catholicism, a certain group of people erring on capitalism, following a hypocrite program for life or adoring a superhero, god-like figure in particular.. it'd be sad to conceive it that way, considering there are already millions of people doing stupid actions behind such convenient mentality.
you know, I'm atheist, I worry about these people claiming to be religious first and moral human beings later, it's just a contradiction... but ultimately, I'd go back to praying just in the name of those who turned to nothing by mere commodity.. to go deaf and neglect the beliefs (-> needs) of people just like them.. when at this point, ethical beings should be acknowledged and respected no matter where they come from or who's at the top speaking on their behalf.

 

[Ferdinanda]

I hope I have a good hair day.

 

[justinleaddict]

Humans naturally believe in God because we fear nature, and need protection... then we won't fear death. It falls in with our instinctual desires. It is an illusion because we need to believe in it; we cause ourselves to be religious. This is why people tend to turn to God after a near death experience.

Religion somehow tends to be the best for society, but it is not necessary. It influences our morals. But morality doesn't depend on religion. An atheist can be a good person of course.

Also, your environment definitely influences your beliefs... for example, if your family is religious, you might adopt their beliefs because they work for you.

Now, I tend to look down on religious people- Yes, they can be good people. A lot of times they are... But the fact is, you can either believe in science or religion. I prefer people who live in reality and value knowledge.. thats just me. And from my experience, religion has caused more trouble in the world than good.

 

[fourboltmain]

I just hope it all goes down after the whole V-Mag model fiasco so we see who wins.

 

[Ferdinanda]

I hope it's Julia!

 

[JeanAvril]

So I guess my goal of jumping Benicio Del Toro, Matt Dillon and Ryan Taylor's bones before I die will have to happen sooner than I thought...

 

[yellowetpink]

Aw shucks !

I wanted to have kids! I guess I'll have to have some sooner
(Kiddddddddddddding)