Africa

sugarpea said:
if you cannot understand the implications behind Western countries finding "inspiration" from non-Western countries which, until 50 years ago, they exploited through a colonial system, thats your problem. The African inspiration in fashion, with its use of animal prints, fetishized masks and ambiguously African" prints, is an appendage of a larger hierarchal system where European, white cultures are treated with more respect than non-white cultures. If you cant understand it, there is no point in this argument...it requires that you consider the historical and political relationships between Western and African countries which causes me and inzombia, among others, to understand that "african-inspired" possesses colonial undertones....im sorry if thats too difficult to understand

Ignorance about another culture does not necessarily mean that you consider yourself to be superior to it. There were European colonialists, but that does not mean that all Europeans are colonialists.

Fashion generalises, fetishises and moves away from authentic culture, true, but that's because it expresses a designer's vision, which is necessarily something different from the authentic culture that inspired it.

I'm mixed race -both my parents were came from countries colonised by the British, that later inspired fashion, who presented it in a vague and fetishistic way. The 'Oriental' theme done by Tom Ford, amongst others, mixed Chinese cheongsam and Japanese kimonos, and festishised the idea of the pleasing Geisha girl -'Bollywood' was a mish mash of sequins, denim and vague sari-ish fabrics. I didn't find any of this offensive -Ford wasn't portraying 'the Orient', he was portraying what he, influenced by certain visions of 'the Orient', envisiged. Words like 'africa' and 'bollywood' in this context are a collection of images and ideas, revised by designers every season (at the moment 'africa' means prints and lots of brown), they're fashion words... it's a different language-game to, for example, the political language-game.

A designer doesn't necessarily need to know the entire history of men's control of women to feature corsetry. It's not even possible to know the entire, exhaustative, history of something... sometimes I research my art meticulously, and sometimes I just respond to a vague mood plucked out of the collective unconcious -both, I think, are valid.

If the designer is just inspired by beauty, this can't be condemned. If the clothes are beautiful, surely they are inspiring in themselves, and transcend the atrocities of the past. :wink:
 
Here some african earrings and necklace bought in Harlem, NYC
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I put the pictures on photobucket for make them smaller but they are still kind of big :huh: . So, I apologize if this in anyway bother someone to read the posts :blush:
 
I don't see anything wrong with them calling it "African Inspired" as long as people don't think that's how all African dress and those are the only types of clothes they wear. It's is African inspired they are just not being specific, as to which part of Africa it came from. But one thing that pisses me off is when people in 2005 think of Africa as a country now that is just pure ignorance.

I do loooovvvvveeee the colors, especially the Yellow, deep medium blue and bright red.
 
ooh, that black necklace aashi posted is gorgeous. thanks! ^_^
 
this is such an interesting thread! thanks everyone for the contributions!

has this been mentioned yet?
should be interesting:


an exhibition at modemuseum antwerpen, from www.momu.be/
BEYOND DESIRE. Desire, attitude and styling in African and Western cultures.
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European fashion designers have adopted the embellishments, scarifications, colours and textiles of the Masai, and combined them with elements of Western haute couture.

In addition to fashion, the exhibition includes fashion photography, African studio photography, art and documentaries.

Momu has made a selection of work by the photographers Depara and Malick Sidibé, and is also exhibiting several pieces from the work of the contemporary studio photographer Apagya.

Also the publicity campaign by Diesel (1991) "What if Africa were the ruling centre of the world", a quote by president and founder of Diesel Renzo Rosso, will be included in the exhibition.

The last section of the exhibition is a shop designed by Xuly Bët

some pictures from the exhibition, there are also the ysl outfits prince of cats posted earlier:
 

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i guess this continues now with the ikat prints that are still around for spring...
 
Those designs from Dior inspired by Masai and Dinka beadwork (pictured above) are still an endless source of fascination for me.

Africa in general interests me with regard to fashion. I suppose because it's so unique and so very different from anything I'm familiar with. Even when compared to, say, kimonos and the whole traditional Japanese dress, Africa still has mystery to it.
 
Some random inspiration...

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corbis, firstview, [FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]saharanvibe.blogspot.com, salon.com
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wow.. the glow-in-the-dark colour.. painted on the feathers dress :o it must by Alexander Mcqueen ?? I recognise the model with her mouth stretched open.. I think it was from his collection
 
Yes, those images with the yellow, metal and jewelry are McQueen f/w 00. The gowns and the short flesh beaded piece are Dior HC s/s 97, the two pictures of the raffia and leopard "voodoo" dress are Dior HC f/w 00 and the people are from the Dinka tribe.
 
I love this... :heart:
All the bead work is so lovely...
True artisan quality...
Ty for posting, Spike..
 

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