Blake Lively & Leonardo DiCaprio Dating?

[OhSoLively]

Since she's such an influential fashion icon, why isn't she at the CFDA Awards?

erm because she's doing Green Lantern press junkets with Ryan for most of this week.

 

[JacquelineJane]

I found nothing applause-worthy in Reese's speech. Here we have yet another woman trying to shame other women for their body and sexuality. I'm just going to say this once: Blake's nude pics are nothing to be ashamed of. I'm tired of living in a society that shames and condemns women for taking intimate videos or photos for their partner/themselves, while NOT blaming the scumbags behind the leaks. (I exclude examples like Kim K and Paris Hilton, because I believe they were behind the leaks themselves. But I believe Blake was a victim of a hacker and does not deserve all of this sl*t-shaming.)

Reese implying women should be "embarrassed" when they take nude pics or make videos - no. No no no no no. It makes me sad she went there, and even sadder people are apparently celebrating what she said and what she was implying. Reese can continue patting herself on the shoulder for being a "good girl" with success - but the fact is 90% of the industry can't stand her and her humourless moralizing, and now I understand why.

 

[mint condish]

^ That's what I thought too. We've all made mistakes; it's how you handle them that really matters.

Maybe instead of influencing young women negatively it will force them to think about the negative impact of taking nude photos of yourself and then sending them around. They'll think twice about what can happen when they end up in the wrong hands -- might be a nice lesson!

 

[dreamss]

Bla bla... Any human being with any sense of dignity who takes nude pics of themselves and they got leaked should be ashamed...like seriously, this is why ppl of today have no shame. Ppl telling them they shouldn't feel ashamed when the world is seeing ur nakedness. I gotta hand it to Reese, great job. Leo's still with her though, we just have to wait and see how things transpires
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[Not Plain Jane]

^ Maybe instead of influencing young women negatively it will force them to think about the negative impact of taking nude photos of yourself and then sending them around. They'll think twice about what can happen when they end up in the wrong hands -- might be a nice lesson!

But what has happened? I don't want to go too far off topic, but the dating could be linked to the pics due to the PR angle.

The thing is, most of these actresses who have had sex tapes and nude pics "leaked" (some by themselves? Some by p.r.? Some by enemies?) have just become MORE famous. Who is suffering? Not Paris. Not Blake. Young girls see these stars thriving and getting ahead. What lessons have been learned. Hmmm.

I am just playing devil's advocate. I am not trying to be all moral. But there is something about common sense. And it might not be a big deal - self exposing - if the things these stars do in the industry didn't appeal directly to young girls. Paris' my BFF show and Blake's Gossip Girl are both shows my 14-16 yr old nieces watch.

There is nothing wrong with a little modesty or at least having the common sense and responsibility that comes with being a public figure who appeals to the young.

 

[JacquelineJane]

Of course there's nothing wrong with modesty - but I'd hate to think we live in society where the only way a woman can demand respect is while wearing skirts down to her ankles and a chastity belt. I'm not trying to get all feminism 101 on everybody here, but it's worrying the way the media - and indeed, going by some of the comments here, the public - are so quick to condemn women and sl*t-shame. When male celebrities take dick pics and they're leaked, no one bats an eyelid and the entire situation goes unnoticed - but the second a woman does it they're sluts, they should "know better", they "have no dignity" or as Reese put it, they're "bad girls" partaking in behaviour that should be seen as shameful or embarrassing. The double standard has got to stop. I'd like to think we live in a day and age where women DON'T need to take their clothes off to succeed - but by the same token, I'd like to think we live in a day and age where women are free to have healthy, active sex lives without having to apologize for it.

It would be a different matter if Blake leaked these photos intentionally for further fame and attention, but until we have reason to think that's the case, I'll assume she's the victim. And that's why I find Reese's speech so... worrying, and not anything to applaud.

 

[dennab216]

I thought what Witherspoon did was rude. Not even 10 min after Lively was on stage here she goes and implies stuff. Everyonce picked it up. She had (and will have) other occasions to be on stage and share her point of view on the matter. Plus the irony, she got the award by the TV channel who air Jersey Shore or whatever. As for being an A-list, I'd go as far as to say that a good PR campaign is what got her the Oscar. Because Phoenix was way better and other contenders that year should have get it. I am not going to say that she lacks talent, but she is no where at the level of some of her peer (Cottillard, Jolie, Theron), her movies bombs as much as Theron (and at least Theron does indie). I am sorry but for me she was really disrespectful. It's not about the message since she didn't even condemn taking pictures/sex tape she just told them to do it but do a better job at hiding them. Plus I don't think Lively used them to leverage her profil. If anything, it hurt her. I think being classy would have mean not commenting at all. Plus with the classy banter she pulled with Pattinson.. I am sure the kid in attendance was impressed (she is a mother right?) Being classy for me is not humiliating publicly someone who is already down. I didn't like Portman comment about Galliano, Theron had the decency to actually keep her mouth shut, but at least she didn't do it in front of an audience with Galliano starring right back at her.

As for DiCaprio/Lively, well he dates whoever he wants to. I don't see the big deal. I don't know Lively but if she was what he is looking for and vice versa right now, where is the fire?

 

[mikeijames]

I found nothing applause-worthy in Reese's speech. Here we have yet another woman trying to shame other women for their body and sexuality. I'm just going to say this once: Blake's nude pics are nothing to be ashamed of. I'm tired of living in a society that shames and condemns women for taking intimate videos or photos for their partner/themselves, while NOT blaming the scumbags behind the leaks. (I exclude examples like Kim K and Paris Hilton, because I believe they were behind the leaks themselves. But I believe Blake was a victim of a hacker and does not deserve all of this sl*t-shaming.)

Reese implying women should be "embarrassed" when they take nude pics or make videos - no. No no no no no. It makes me sad she went there, and even sadder people are apparently celebrating what she said and what she was implying. Reese can continue patting herself on the shoulder for being a "good girl" with success - but the fact is 90% of the industry can't stand her and her humourless moralizing, and now I understand why.

i agree with you but i don't think that she meant to JUDGE blake or anyone else. she said from the start "being a bad girl is cool" but she wanted to show that you can achieve fame WITHOUT DOING THAT STUFF. it's not a judgement on people who do, she just chooses to do those things herself. it's clear that reese has taken naked pictures of herself. she just cuts her face out of them. honestly, do you think reese witherspoon could maintain a friendship with chelsea handler if she were that judgemental!?

i thought reese's speech got pointed more at the lindsay lohans, kim kardashians, and others of the world. especially since she made mention of "reality shows" etc. someone should post her speech in its entirety because she really wasn't bashing WOMEN just a particular brand of women who use scandalous behavior to get ahead. i don't believe blake falls into that category and i doubt reese believes that either.

"I just want to say to all the girls out there, I know it's cool to be bad. I get it," Reese said. "All right, it's cool to be bad, but it's also possible to make it in Hollywood without a reality show. When I came up in this business, if you made a sex tape, you were embarrassed and you hid it under your bed. And like if you took naked pictures of yourself on your cell phone, you hide your face, people. Hide your face."

 

[advo]

I found nothing applause-worthy in Reese's speech. Here we have yet another woman trying to shame other women for their body and sexuality. I'm just going to say this once: Blake's nude pics are nothing to be ashamed of. I'm tired of living in a society that shames and condemns women for taking intimate videos or photos for their partner/themselves, while NOT blaming the scumbags behind the leaks. (I exclude examples like Kim K and Paris Hilton, because I believe they were behind the leaks themselves. But I believe Blake was a victim of a hacker and does not deserve all of this sl*t-shaming.)

Reese implying women should be "embarrassed" when they take nude pics or make videos - no. No no no no no. It makes me sad she went there, and even sadder people are apparently celebrating what she said and what she was implying. Reese can continue patting herself on the shoulder for being a "good girl" with success - but the fact is 90% of the industry can't stand her and her humourless moralizing, and now I understand why.

You can interpret it that way if you want, but that's not how I saw her speech. I absolutely agree with you that nude pics for yourself or your lover or hell to whoever you want, is nothing to be embarrassed about. What Reese said was that when she started in the industry, women were embarrassed about it but today it is actually used to further your career. THIS is the part that I agree with. It shouldn't be encouraged or necessary for a woman to take her "clothes off" to make it in Hollywood (or anywhere else for that matter).

As for Blake. I'm on the fence on believing she's a victim or not. The coincidence of her PR's quick statement and how it was written makes me suspicious. And furthermore, she is apparently not the victim anyway since they are not even of her.

 

[pavonine]

I found nothing applause-worthy in Reese's speech. Here we have yet another woman trying to shame other women for their body and sexuality. I'm just going to say this once: Blake's nude pics are nothing to be ashamed of. Reese implying women should be "embarrassed" when they take nude pics or make videos - no. No no no no no. It makes me sad she went there, and even sadder people are apparently celebrating what she said and what she was implying.

I wouldn't agree with that, I'm afraid. I'm female, and I would be mortified if my nude pics get splashed all over the internet, especially if they are shoddily shod and were originally meant for a boyfriend. I also consider myself a feminist, but this issue is not quite as black and white as 'women trying to shame other women.' I can't speak for Reese Witherspoon, but personally I found everything about the nude pictures debacle very trashy. Not the pictures or the nudity per se, but the intent behind the leak Whether Blake leaked it herself or whether someone with a grudge against her did it, both these intentions are contemptible. If she leaked them herself, then she's a famewhore who has absolutely no inhibitions. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't make it any less trashy. If someone intentionally leaked them, well, then that person is an ****hole and Blake needs to be more careful in future about whom she sends her pictures to. Either way, it's a debacle.

The second a woman does it they're sluts, they should "know better", they "have no dignity" or as Reese put it, they're "bad girls" partaking in behaviour that should be seen as shameful or embarrassing.

Nudity and sexuality aren't inherently bad or good. Nudity can be incredibly empowering and classy when it is done properly. When Lara Stone takes her kit off for LOVE or Purple, then it's a case of nudity and female sexuality being celebrated. When Blake Lively takes pictures of herself with a mobile phone in a hotel room, it's a case of her nudity and sexuality being commodified (albeit for the consumption of her lover) and cheapened. And personally, I don't find it empowering or aesthetic or sensual in the slightest. Precisely like how I don't find anything empowering or aesthetic or sensual about p*rn*gr*phy or lads' mags.

At the end of the day, it isn't so much a pair of t*ts and an **** that is embarrassing about those pictures, but the arrant objectification of said body parts, female sexuality and the depersonalisation of the woman's identity. Sexuality is only a facet of a woman; there is much, much more to her than just her t*ts and her **** and her vagina. To a woman, her sexuality can be very empowering when she is in total control of it, but it can also be horribly demeaning when she, as it were, loses the power to regulate how and by whom her (commodified) sexuality is consumed. Thus, to reiterate, there is nothing embarrassing or shameful about a woman who wishes to objectify her body, but it IS embarrassing and shameful for the woman in question when her entire identity and selfhood are depersonalised. In the same vein, making a sex tape isn't something to feel embarrassed about per se, but when the people in the tape can't regulate its viewership, then there is a bit of a problem. What I think is even more germane is that these acts shouldn't be normalised. Just because a couple of celebrities took nude pictures/made a sex tape, it shouldn't be treated as something normal, because that can send out wrong signals to vulnerable young people who might not be in a position to exert as much control and autonomy over their bodies and their sexuality as much as celebrities do.

 

[pavonine]

ITA: I fear the moderators might have a bit of a tough time regulating this thread, seeing as it has significantly veered off the main topic of discussion: Leo and Blake's relationship. I suppose the thread could be renamed something along the lines of Blake Lively: Post all news here, a la Lindsay Lohan. Just a suggestion.

 

[bluedolphin]

don't like Blake, lucky bich

 

[dajrekshn]

i can't give you karma for the time being Pavonine, but man, that's one great post with really good points!

 

[kobro22]

Originally Posted by Urban Stylin

I still fail to understand why 'fans' would take it upon to themselves to determine exactly what kind of woman he might want to date. ....

Because this is a rumor thread where we come to speculate and throw around wild and crazy theories, laugh and eschange ideas.​

 

[babyjane]

Why are we discussing and bashing Reese Witherspoon? 1) She didn't say any names. 2) Her publicist denied they were directed at one person, do you realize how many celebrities have taken naked photos on their phone and they've leaked? Lots. She's probably talking about all of them and 3) If you don't think Reese said anything applause worthy in her speech it's probably because you can't look past the Blake assumption. Her speech was about making it in Hollywood just because your good and not needing to take any desperate measures to get noticed. This is what she did and her career ain't too shabby.

 

[JacquelineJane]

I wouldn't agree with that, I'm afraid. I'm female, and I would be mortified if my nude pics get splashed all over the internet, especially if they are shoddily shod and were originally meant for a boyfriend. I also consider myself a feminist, but this issue is not quite as black and white as 'women trying to shame other women.' I can't speak for Reese Witherspoon, but personally I found everything about the nude pictures debacle very trashy. Not the pictures or the nudity per se, but the intent behind the leak Whether Blake leaked it herself or whether someone with a grudge against her did it, both these intentions are contemptible. If she leaked them herself, then she's a famewhore who has absolutely no inhibitions. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't make it any less trashy. If someone intentionally leaked them, well, then that person is an ****hole and Blake needs to be more careful in future about whom she sends her pictures to. Either way, it's a debacle.

I agree if Blake leaked the pics herself it's an issue - in which case, I'd understand Reese's point about women not having to stoop to these kinds of levels. But like I said above, I'm going to presume she's the victim in this and the photos were leaked due to a hacker - her name was listed in a report months ago that she had been hacked along with Miley, Jessica Alba, and a few other celebs - in which case she is innocent and there becomes nothing 'contemptible' about her position. That's kind of what I'm saying. I find nothing wrong is taking photos of the body, whether it is for a lover or for ones own self - I know countless girls who take nude shots of themselves for their own eyes only, as a reminder of their youth and beauty that they can look back on when they're older. People should be able to photograph themselves in such a bare state and NOT have those photos stolen, their privacy invaded, or their trust breached. We should be reminding girls and boys it's not the individual in these photos that society should be judging, it's the individual responsible for making it public. If the person responsible for its publicity IS the very same person in the photo, then I can concede the point Reese was making about not having to 'stoop' to such levels. But I don't see taking photos in private and then being victim to a breach of privacy as the same thing. Reese's wording made it clear she believed making sex tapes/taking nude pics was embarrassing in and of itself ("if you made a sex tape you were embarrassed") and that is something I fundamentally disagree with.

EDIT: But back on topic!! LOL. I think the relationship with Leo is a total sham but I'm chuckling at the hilarious stories her publicist is feeding to the tabloids. Seriously, just picture Leo "giggling" at ice-cream. LOL. So unintentionally hilarious. I don't know who they think they're fooling with all these "Leo's never felt this way before" bits.

 

[AutomneRoi20]

It's funny to come back here a few days later : i like Blake now because so many people hate her. I think she kind of deserve the attention she get, because she's part of a tradition : the scandalous "dumb blond" who is all sex appeal, and with the supposedly promiscuous life, and who makes everyone angry because of her "scandalous behaviour"... Can you imagine the movie industrie without them ? No Marylin Monroe, No Brigitte Bardot, etc. DON'T MISTAKE ME, i am not saying that Blake is the new Marylin or the new Brigitte (especially since the movie industrie doesn't have the same magic as in the 50's, and i can't imagine a filmmaker of today with the talent to take "the dumb blond" myth and make a great comedy of it ), but this is because a large audience is obsessed with that kind of girls that we had the icons. I really can't imagine Hollywood with only the "Carey Mulligans". Ok, we'd have a lot of great performances in arty movies, but in term of pure entertainement, it would be sooo boring ! For instance, Hollywood need gossips, it's a tradition, and those bombshell feed them : think of this thread, it's not more than 40 pages because of Leo but mostly because of Blake. Even people who apparently hate her can't distract their attention from her ! If she wasn't kind of fascinating, people would just be totally indifferent no ?

 

[kobro22]

Why are we discussing and bashing Reese Witherspoon? 1) She didn't say any names. 2) Her publicist denied they were directed at one person, do you realize how many celebrities have taken naked photos on their phone and they've leaked? Lots. She's probably talking about all of them and 3) If you don't think Reese said anything applause worthy in her speech it's probably because you can't look past the Blake assumption. Her speech was about making it in Hollywood just because your good and not needing to take any desperate measures to get noticed. This is what she did and her career ain't too shabby.

Babyjane, totally agree, I find it so funny that all the people outraged by the supposed "Blake bashing" are bashing Reese (umm another female) , saying she never deserved her OScar etc. Yeah feminism at its best. LOL!

@JacquelineJane, yeah this is precisely why I keep on coming back to this thread those pr stories are just too much

EDIT: But back on topic!! LOL. I think the relationship with Leo is a total sham but I'm chuckling at the hilarious stories her publicist is feeding to the tabloids. Seriously, just picture Leo "giggling" at ice-cream. LOL. So unintentionally hilarious. I don't know who they think they're fooling with all these "Leo's never felt this way before" bits.​

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[saann]

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