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Vogue is Vogue and the Editor steers the ship . A great magazine reflects the times in which it exists. God bless Anna give her the biggest golden handshake and gingerly lead her to the door. This amazing ship needs a new captain before it sinks .
 
I'm actually looking forward to Beyonce on September - her last September cover was such a travesty: from head to toe it was a disaster, so I'm glad she'll get another one. Now if they could give Gaga a second September cover also, to make up for her God-awful one for the 120th anniversary, then I'd be a happy camper.
 
I absolutely agree on that assessment. I´m so freaking tired of seeing indie stuff EVERYWHERE!!! As Anna said in The September Issue documentary to Edwards then: ``Where´s the glamour? THIS IS VOGUE!´´ :judge: .

I used to be a HUGE American Vogue reader and fan, I have years and years of subscription in my house but nowadays there´s no glamour in Vogue: where are the diamonds, the luxury hotels, all the things Vogue represented???? Vogue isn´t Elle, I´m a man but to me Elle represents the aspirational-everyday-modern woman who has to pick up her kids, go to work, look cool and healthy and know everything about how society works today. But that´s the opposite of Vogue: Vogue to me represents the power, the old days glamour, the luxury, the excess, the over the top life that almos nobody has. But maybe that´s the problem, perhaps women stopped buying Vogue because it looked too far away and detached from the 21st century lifestyle. I understand very few modern-day-working-women between 25 and 45 years old nowadays want to know about how to look superb in 10 inch stilettos and buying fur and having a bag that costs 3000€ or to look at couture dresses in ridiculously made up editorials staged in billionaire mansions HOWEVER I still think we need Vogue today to remember what luxury and the unattainable life was. Vogue is like a bible from the past, it should remain, like a piece of a museum. I agree that it might not be what women want and perhaps that´s why Vogue had to go the indie route in order to not die and to remain present in the lives of women today. But as a man and a photographer I want to see that eccentric life with loads of diamonds and amazing couture dresses in mansions, not the little Jenners and Hadids playing dress up with their off-the-moment boyfriends. I want supermodels, I want drama, great dresses and Steven Meisel. Is that too much to ask to Anna? :( Or is the publishing world that dead and now ALL that matters is just everyday silly selfies on stupid influencers?

What you're saying is very interesting but at the same time, i just want to say that American Vogue and Anna in the same logic, cannot live in a vaccum.
In the September Issue era, everything was simple. The American Dream still made people dream, the entire industry was different. I remember at the time, fashion was really chasing that young 25 to 35 crowd, the crisis didn't hit the industry yet so all the codes of the glamour we had from the early to mid 00's (The Tom Ford era) were still valid.

I love that idea of American Vogue but it would be totally irrelevant today. The high society doesn't make people dream anymore. The lives of those ladies, in our era of the MeToo movement-women empowerement, seems a bit reductive and superficial in the not so funny way.

And i would say that the fall of Testino is also a big thing. He was the photographer of the rich and famous for 2 decades. He has more than anyone else documented their lifestyle in every Vogue Edition he was involved with.

Meisel is great but Meisel point of view is really about fashion. Yes, he IMO embodies Glamour and he is a good story teller but our era doesn't make things easy for him. Controversial stories inspired by what's going on in the world right now can be tricky to handle so, we are stuck at a time when we can have a good studio shoot and that's it.

In France, we are really nostalgic so for us, Glamour is kinda easy because our most glamorous and excessive era was the 80's. So, every now and then we reintroduce elements we loved in the 80's and most of those turn around Le Palace. We have "our royal family" which is the Grimaldi and all so with our very codified ideas of Glamour, we find ways to turn around things.

But Maybe fashion today needs to think about a new way to interpret Glamour. I think Glamour is very important for people of my generation (i'm in my early 30's) but what does that mean for a "millenial"? And how can it be translated in the magazine?
Because the indie aesthetic is the mainstream aesthetic now.
Everybody is underground, everybody loves contemporary art, everybody name drop the same designers but at the same time, the indie magazines are using the same tricks as the mainstream magazines....

It's a weird space for fashion now.
 
To whom it may concern, Toni Garrn shot for Elle Germany.
 
Because the indie aesthetic is the mainstream aesthetic now.

Thanks for this, and the rest of your post! I must admit I don't loathe the 'indie' direction for what it is, I loathe that editors are latching onto it and passing it off as 'edgy or avant-garde' when it is, as you say, pretty much mainstream right now. Can't the new magazine reader see that that they're being fooled by the preposterous 'Be Yourself' mission statements which is somewhat ironic consider most magazines copy one another anyway. And here the same applies to the likes of POP and ID.
Thank God there are still editions out there who at least try to provide an alternate take on modern fashion. The type who will actually avoid shooting a much-hyped Saint Laurent strapless baby doll dress in leather, because it doesn't align with their clearly defined vision. That kind of gusty direction impress me because it shows confidence and consistency more than anything else.

My biggest problem with American Vogue, and most other editions, is it's desperation for inclusiveness. It's what supersede the absence of glamour. It couldn't, like British Harper's or Porter, just cater to a specific audience or follow a clearly defined vision and just adapt to their fashion professionals accordingly. It must cater to everyone at all times. The mistaken belief that the person buying into Meryl Streep talking about latest art-house film would also buy the next issue to find out whether Kendall Jenner is or isn't lesbian. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but that's just credulous and at some stage a line must be drawn.
 
Harpers UK - Cameron Russell
Lily Allen is shooting a UK Cosmo cover
Duckie did a UK cover shoot. Anyone know who?
Maire Claire 30th Birthday issue - Elle Fanning? through Tiffany and co.
Upcoming Marie Claire UK - Rumor of Ruth Negga.
 
Cosmo UK - Mila Kunis reprint. bad hair cut out around the logo.
 
Harpers UK - Cameron Russell
Lily Allen is shooting a UK Cosmo cover
Duckie did a UK cover shoot. Anyone know who?
Maire Claire 30th Birthday issue - Elle Fanning? through Tiffany and co.
Upcoming Marie Claire UK - Rumor of Ruth Negga.

Looking forward to Cameron Russell and Ruth!

Thanks for the update, Eight! :)
 







4. Here's what a source told me about Mitchell getting the gig: "The reason a 23-year-old black photographer is photographing Beyoncé for the cover of Vogue is because Beyoncé used her power and influence to get him that assignment."
 
This is really pathetic at this point.

Last Friday, Benn seemingly raised that this is the first poc photographer; alas, the info on Tyler Mitchell.

Beyoncé’s control? Miss Thing, that has been discussed ever since her last September cover. Remember why she had no interview? Remember how she had photo approval? And way to go on the exaggeration that Beyoncé is the pseudo EIC. LOL. Beyoncé barely had time to shoot this magazine, more so be hands on regarding the entire magazine. She’s reaching your honor.

Anna Wintour leaving? Bandwagon.

And I’m sick and tired of these “sources” who can confirm everything, but not Anna leaving. Your source dished out on Beyoncé, but Anna leaving is still “likely”. If it were true, insiders would know. Vogue is something she can’t just drop. She can’t just have a last issue and leave the next months out in the open. The past few editors that left had a holdover period, but Anna gets to choose to leave and let the position be vacant until someone gets it (a process which we know takes a while). So yes, if she’s leaving, decisions have already been mase. People in the know would know. If these sources are credible, might as well ask them for real tea.

Please tell us something you haven’t read over here.
 
My biggest problem with American Vogue, and most other editions, is it's desperation for inclusiveness. It's what supersede the absence of glamour. It couldn't, like British Harper's or Porter, just cater to a specific audience or follow a clearly defined vision and just adapt to their fashion professionals accordingly. It must cater to everyone at all times. The mistaken belief that the person buying into Meryl Streep talking about latest art-house film would also buy the next issue to find out whether Kendall Jenner is or isn't lesbian. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but that's just credulous and at some stage a line must be drawn.

Amen!
Yes the problem is this inclusivity thing. Not the idea but the actual execution. Fashion and magazines are all about pot-pourris now.
Instead of having your define thing and try to make it better, people are obsessed with the idea of speaking to everybody at the same time.

Vogue is only relevant because of what it represent instead of what it is actually. The same for ID and all...

Magazines have lost their voices and the appointment of Enninful at Vogue UK is the proof of that.

Anna and maybe Emmanuelle now (because she has the luxury of speaking to a small audience of people actually enjoying high fashion) still have the power to make decision that will influence others.

Enninful and the guy at VI are just trying their hardest to speak to a wider audience and their magazines don’t have the same impact or the identity we link to them.

The sad thing is that those who actually make an impact are feeling the pressure of having to speak to that wide audience.

Fashion is a part of a lifestyle and if you are having trouble to define the environment of your magazine, you’re lost.

Before it was known that a photographer needed to adapt his photography to the publication he was working for. Today, it’s all messed up...

Inclusivity is great but it’s really a posture at the end of the day. Fashion is for everybody... anybody can enjoy fashion buy what makes people dreamed about fashion was this idea of that small world of creatives.
Why big brands like Chanel and Hermès are making money? Because they are selling something universal in a very exclusive way. Why women loved Alaia even if you needed to have a model body in order to fit in his clothes? Because it felt exclusive.
Why Couture makes people dream? Because beauty is as subjective as it is universal and because of the fantasy people have of the lives of the people wearing couture.

Numéro for example is a great magazine. It’s totally exclusive in a way but they are good at what they are doing!

Going mass is great on a short term but it gets tired overtime.
 


“A 23 year old making history. Please join me in congratulating @tylersphotos, an amazingly talented photographer, who is also the first african american photographer to shoot the cover for @voguemagazine (126 years and roughly 1,500 covers later). This September, his picture of @beyonce will be on stands around the globe. I’m getting a copy, or five. Tyler, you are an amazing, amazing talent and friend and this moment is huge and very well deserved. - image description: photographer tyler mitchell on a yellow block”
 
via Yashar Ali
HuffPost
July 30, 2018

Beyoncé Given Unprecedented Control Over Vogue’s September Issue Cover, Sources Say

Vogue editor-in-chief Anna Wintour gave Beyoncé unprecedented control over the cover of the upcoming September issue, sources say, and the music icon hired the first black photographer to shoot a cover in the publication’s 126-year history.

The publication is contractually obligated to give Beyoncé full control over the cover, the photos of her inside the magazine and the captions, which she has written herself and are in long-form, according to two sources who are familiar with the agreement between Vogue and Beyoncé but aren’t authorized to speak to the press.

Wintour has always exerted complete control over the fashion bible, including selecting the outfits worn by cover models. Cover subjects are usually given little to no say in their photos and are sent the cover in the week ahead of publication, a source familiar with the editorial process at the publication told HuffPost.


The reason a 23-year-old black photographer is photographing Beyoncé for the cover of Vogue is because Beyoncé used her power and influence to get him that assignment.
a source to HuffPost

Beyoncé chose Tyler Mitchell, 23, to be her photographer.

“I depict black people and people of color in a really real and pure way,” Mitchell, who has already made a splash by shooting campaigns for Marc Jacobs and Givenchy, told The New York Times in December. “There is an honest gaze to my photos.”

Wintour typically prefers to hire fashion photographers with more traditional experience and likely would not have selected Mitchell for a cover shoot, according to a source familiar with Vogue’s editorial process.

“The reason a 23-year-old black photographer is photographing Beyoncé for the cover of Vogue is because Beyoncé used her power and influence to get him that assignment,” the source said.

The cover is also likely to be Wintour’s last September issue, according to four sources familiar with her plans. Vogue parent company Condé Nast repeatedly has said the editor is not leaving the magazine.

A representative for Vogue declined to comment on this story.

Beyoncé’s last September issue cover was in 2015 and was shot by Mario Testino, a photographer Wintour has worked with frequently. (Testino has not worked for Vogue since being publicly accused of sexual misconduct in a New York Times report published in January.) Beyoncé was not given the same level of control over that cover or issue, but it still made waves because she did not participate in an interview for it, something that had not happened in several years with a non-model cover subject. She is also not granting Vogue a sit-down interview for the September 2018 issue.

The New York Post was first to report that Beyoncé would grace the cover of Vogue’s September issue this year.

Stormy Daniels is also expected to be featured in the September or October issue of Vogue after being photographed by Annie Leibovitz. A spokeswoman for Vogue declined to comment when HuffPost reached out to the publication several months ago after hearing about the possibility of Daniels being featured in the magazine.
 
Rihanna is in England now shooting something. Funny that on the same day that happens, Beyonce's news breaks. I'm excited for the photographer, but Beyonce is so dull to me.
 
I could be totally wrong but everyone has also been speculating Beyoncé is pregnant while on tour, I wonder if she is going to use the September issue/cover to announce the pregnancy? Just a theory!
 

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