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Fashion Merry-Go-Round Series: 3-Celine in talks with Alaïa’s Pieter Mulier
Astrid Wendlandt

14/04/24
The departure of designer Hedi Slimane at Celine has yet to be announced but owner LVMH is not wasting any time looking for a replacement. The French group is in talks with several candidates. One of them is Alaïa’s popular creative director Pieter Mulier. If the Belgian designer gets the job, it would be great for Celine but disastrous for Richemont’s Alaïa, industry sources have said.


"People at Alaïa are worried about the possibility of seeing Mulier leave," a senior industry source said. "It would be a shame for the brand as he's done a fantastic job," the source added. Mulier's shows have been applauded by fashion critics and his designs have strengthened the brand's appeal and widened its customer base. Mulier is a seasoned designer who worked for many years alongside fellow Belgian designer Raf Simons, now making wonders at Prada together with Miuccia Prada.


Mulier helped Simons launch his eponymous brand in 1995. He was his right hand at Jil Sanders, then at Christian Dior and finally at Calvin Klein. "At Dior, Pieter Mulier was very appreciated as he draws a lot. He is very talented and hard-working," an industry source said. Hence, LVMH knows Mulier well and would be happy to hire him again. He would also be much easier to manage than Hedi Slimane, whose extravagant demands earned him the ire of LVMH CEO and controlling shareholder Bernard Arnault, as Miss


Tweedreported last week.


Other designers are also being considered if Celine does not succeed in snatching Mulier away from Alaïa, industry sources have said.


Alaïa is one of Richemont's smaller fashion brands. It has traditionally been run without much intervention from the Cartier owner. At Richemont, Alaïa sits alongside Chloé, Peter Millar and Delvaux. Last year, the Swiss group acquired the luxury shoemaker Gianvito Rossi, beating out competition from Renzo Rosso's OTB, Miss Tweed was first to report. Fashion is not Richemont's core business. The Swiss group's strength is in watches and jewelry. Fashion features in the "other" category in its results together with real estate and other activities. Some analysts say this is designed to mask the poor performance of some of its fashion brands.


FENDI


Change is also on the cards at Fendi. Kim Jones is expected to leave Fendi soon, as Miss Tweed reported in October. The brand's sales have been stagnating in the past two to three years, industry sources have said. Last year, LVMH held talks with former Gucci designer Alessandro Michele to replace Kim Jones, several sources close to the French group said. The Italian designer asked for huge amounts of money and wanted the brand to part ways with Fendi family members including Silvia Venturini Fendi and her daughter.


The Fendi matriarch is in charge of Fendi's menswear and accessories and worked alongside the brand's former star designer Karl Lagerfeld for five decades. Her daughter Delfina Delettrez Fendi has looked after the brand's jewelry since 2020 and presented her first high jewelry collection in July last year. The two women are respectively the third and fourth generation of the Fendi family. This month, Michele started as Valentino's creative director, replacing Pierpaolo Piccioli who left abruptly after 25 years.


"It would be sad for the fashion world if Pierpaolo decided to enjoy life," one industry insider said. That's unlikely to happen. Arnault is said to admire Piccioli's talent and is keen to recruit him, most likely for Fendi, several industry sources have said.


If Piccioli became Fendi's new creative director, he would give it a much more Italian and Roman identity. Fendi needs to reconnect with its Roman roots, fashion critics argue. As opposed to Kim Jones, who is British, Piccioli grew up and lives near Rome. He would understand what being Roman means in terms of attitude and fashion. Tapping into his vast knowledge of the city's art and history, Piccioli could help Fendi build a strong Roman identity and celebrate in style its 100th anniversary next year.


However, Piccioli is great with haute couture and evening wear but not so strong in day ready-to-wear. Also, his latest bag collections for Valentino were not a huge success.


That could be a concern when considering hiring him for Fendi, fashion head-hunters say.


GIVENCHY


Another LVMH brand looking for a new creative director is Givenchy. The French fashion brand founded by Hubert de Givenchy in 1952 has interviewed many people to replace Matthew Williams. But up until now, no one seems to fit the bill. Also, LVMH needs to decide what kind of Givenchy it wants: a couture or a more rock-chic brand.


Givenchy is a bit of a poisoned chalice, fashion experts say. Post-Hubert de Givenchy, who sold the brand to LVMH in 1988, it's been through many designers, none of whom have been really true to the brand's heritage. It went either extreme rock chic under Ricardo Tisci or an unconvincing mix between haute couture and studs under Clare Waight Keller. The latter was urged to keep the Ricardo vibe present, but it was not her. The couture side of the brand was applauded but the ready-to-wear ended up being slightly designed by committee, fashion critics said at the time. When Williams joined Givenchy in 2020, his mission was to bring back that cool streetwear sensibility that Tisci had introduced. But his work turned out to be just a lighter, more subdued version of Tisci.


One difficulty with Givenchy is that its heritage is not that easy to exploit and turn into silhouettes relevant for today's world, industry specialists say. It is not like Yves Saint Laurent, where you have clear references such as the tuxedo, the Sahara jacket and other classics. Hubert de Givenchy is remembered as the designer whose little black dresses, advertised by his muse Audrey Hepburn, sold like hot cakes. But there is not that much else.


LVMH has already interviewed several candidates for Givenchy. These include the seasoned Haider Ackermann, who designed for the group's luxury shoe brand Berluti. It has also considered the young Albanian-born, London-based Nensi Dojaka, who won the LVMH Prize in 2021 and is known for her "naked dressing," industry sources have said.


Sarah Burton, who left Alexander McQueen in September last year, is also said to have been interviewed but her style was considered to be too McQueen for Givenchy, fashion insiders said.


There is also Courrèges's Nicolas di Felice, who has successfully resuscitated the brand owned by the Pinault family investment company Artémis. But di Felice is said to want to say at Courrèges for now and continue building the brand. Same for Julien Dossena, Paco Rabanne's designer. Like di Felice, Dossena prefers to stay put. Another name in the hat is Martina Tiefenthaler, who was the right hand of Balenciaga's Demna vasalia from the early days of his career and abruptly left the Kering brand earlier this year.


"Martina is very highly regarded and could be a good fit for Givenchy," one fashion head-hunter said.


And then there's Kenzo. Japanese designer Nigo, who has been with Kenzo since September 2021, has won some applause, but his designs have not been a commercial success. He too will have to go at some point. The fashion merry-go-round never ends.
 
no burton at givenchy then? :( but this "too mcqueen" comment makes it sound unreliable.

not sure about ppp for fendi, he should take some time off maybe at that he will be able to have a clearer woman because she was not there in valentino. If he somehow finds a clearer vision for his women im sure he will have amazing collections.
 
I don't know why, but the fact it is said they want to poach Mulier from Alaïa to replace Hedi at Celine makes this whole article a little unbelievable. I don't think Mulier can handle the burgeoning behemoth Hedi has created. I could be very wrong, but I don't see it.

I also forgot Givenchy was without a creative director. I forgot Givenchy even existed to be frank.
 
I don't think there is any designer right now who could replace Slimane at Celine. Celine is Hedi.
I like Mullier but a brand of this caliber is just not for him. I love what he is doing at Alaia and hope he isn't going anywhere.
 
Thoughts

1. Miss Tweed most popular hits are driven by Hedi Slimane, Celine Paris, Celine… those are her top 10 keywords. Nobody else drives views to this ladys site so she has to talk about Hedi to keep the lights on.

2. mulier for givenchy is more believable since Givenchy has always been LVMHs experimental label that they dont care too much if it performs. If Giv wasnt one of the heritage HC houses Bernard wouldnt have even bought it.
 
I can say whatever I want too actually sources close to the brand say OTB is getting rid of Galliano at Margiela because Karl's body is undergoing a novel procedure to reanimate his body and when he wakes up they will have him take over the creative reins there to rejuvenate the brand, but it will be disastrous for the graveyard's ecosystem he's currently rotting in. If you read that congrats you just wasted more of your time for no reason.
 
^ this part I agree, if anything they might actually wait for her to end her non compete clause (October) and hire her...
 
Those names she mentions for Givenchy are those that people I know there mentioned to me a few weeks ago.

Re: Alaia, that'd be such a loss for them. I hope he stays some more, he seems to really get it.
 
What would be the f*cking point of all these switches? I really hope they’re not true.

Do the executives think any of these constant, chaotic and unhinged creative director changes are doing their brands any favors? I think there was a moment where they got the idea that somehow because your average consumer might not know exactly who is designing for the brand, that that somehow means it doesn’t matter who is designing for the brand.

But the creative instability that most luxury brands have experienced over the last 5 or so years I think is finally catching up and biting brands in the butt now. There’s no anticipation anymore when a new announcement comes out. Instead, the response is exhaustion and frustration.

These brands are quickly using up the last of their public good will.
 
Celine
I don't believe that Celine is working to replace Hedi Slimane. The brand went through astronomical growth and expansion in the last half decade and its lack of defined heritage act as the perfect blank slate for Hedi. In the case that he does leave, I think that an internal promotion would allow for a smoother transition for the brand (Hedi's fans are still salty over Vaccarello at Saint Laurent).

As for Mulier, I don't see him leaving Alaia for a larger brand. According to an interview for WSJ, his experience at Calvin Klein led to a creative burnout. When Richemont first contacted him for the job, he was considering leaving fashion for furniture design.
Pieter Mulier was considering a job offer from a furniture company when the call came in from Richemont, in 2020. The designer had not long returned to his home in Antwerp, having reached an “amicable” parting with his former employers at Calvin Klein. He had spent two decades working in the heart of fashion. And he was “done” with all of it.

“I was done with the mathematics,” says Mulier, over an espresso outside the Alaïa headquarters on Rue de Moussy, in Paris’s Marais district. “Done with the people. Done with the big teams, and done with finding the energy to give to the team and being a kind of creative clown.

“I was done with finding the energy to give to the team and being a kind of creative clown” Pieter Mulier “Honestly, I didn’t want a profession any more,” says the 43-year-old designer, who is slight and puckishly handsome, with narrow features and a knowing grin. He is dressed in a navy Prada overcoat despite it being an exceptionally humid afternoon. Even he realised, however, that the house of Alaïa was a rare jewel: a tiny couture-like studio with a clutch of clients who were passionate, deep-pocketed and fiercely loyal. Immediately he stopped all other conversations. He only wanted this – an opportunity like Alaïa, he says, was a “once in a lifetime thing”.
Leaving Alaia for a brand like Celine wouldn't make sense. On top of that, the new "Dialogue" project and financial reports leads me to believe that Mulier will continue long term at the house. The recent redesign of their London flagship and the new brand project with a Parisian cabaret.

Fendi
Piccioli would be an interesting choice for Fendi, but he has so many gaps in his skills. While (unlike Kim Jones) PPP can design beautiful eveningwear, he isn't good at much else. On top of that, he's a poor storyteller/brand-builder. While the Fendi women could easily pick up the slack, I think that a more well-rounded designer like Stefano Pilati Marco de Vincenzo would complement the brand much more.

Givenchy
Sarah Burton is the most likely choice for Givenchy, with the "delayed" appointement allowing ample time for Williams' collections to pass through the stores. Her link with Alexander McQueen could act as a sort of "lore" behind her appointement in the way of Chemana's Chloe.

I don't think Nensi Dojaka would be well at Givenchy. On top the fact that her skills are very limited, her logic behind her appointement would strongly mirror that of Williams'. The choice of Martina Tiefenthaler would be very interesting for Givenchy, mainly to see what her work would look like without Demna's direction. That said, she'll really need to distance herself from Demna's aesthetic markers.

Good on Di Felice and Dossena leave their brands for Givenchy when their respective revivals are doing so well. Like Mulier's Alaia, both brands are in a period of healthy growth, so it wouldn't be their owners' interest to let go of them.
 
Fashion "Head hunters" these days:
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Everything feels so random!!
 
I can't think of anything that will make LVMH replace Slimane. I don't think they can even afford a creative change right now. Not at least before the beauty division is set up, which I imagine Hedi has a lot of stakes in. Also if his contract went for 5 years then it means he just renewed last year. Sadly they can only replace Hedi with a commercial designer who can build on what he did. Celine is thrice bigger than when they took the risk of hiring him.

IDK what these supposed absurd demand are. Even if he asks for fresh new twinks to his office everyday LVMH would provide given how he is Celine now.
 
I love Mullier at Alaia. I don't wanna see him gone.

Givenchy is so doing so poorly right now, Spongebob Squarepants could design better collections than the current airheads.
 

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