Who Will Succeed John Galliano At Dior? #2 *Update Raf Simons Offically Hired*

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Oh GOD, what is seriously going on with this House? They need to get their s*** together. I'm sick of rumours..it's not even interesting any more. One rumour after the other..it's exhausting. Can we just get the House of Dior back on track please?
 
I won't accept anyone but Raf for this job. Seriously, the guy is the most talented designer around and he's "unemployed", why the hell would they go for somebody else?
 
Raf leaving Jil Sander HAS to mean he's moving to Dior; he's far too talented and successful. Kane is being groomed for Versace anyway, non?
 
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I popped on to see if there was anyone a) interesting being discussed for the job; there isn't and b) whether anyone thought there was a conclusion to be soon drawn to this saga; clearly there isn't.

The faff and fiasco has totally turned me off Dior and has left the house looking shambolic. Meanwhile, they seem happy to turn out sub standard collections. What a farce!
 
christopher kane is a good egg with a good head on his shoulders. he is too down to earth to work at dior.

i also think dior should let gaytten do his thing for a while. the last collection was excellent.

i think i agree! i used to be desperate to see Gaytten being replaced because i just hated everything he was doing but his last couture collection was really a nice surprise, it seems that he only needed time and now i actually wouldn't mind to see him staying a little longer, but just for a while though until they get "the one".. (Theyskens?)

and i don't think that Raf left JS to go to Dior.. it was because the founder of the label wanted to come back, i think that's pretty clear
i'm honestly not too keen on Raf at Dior but he would be kinda perfect for YSL actually, even better than Hedi imo..
and please not Pilati for Dior either! that would be just a mistake, his work at YSL never convinced me :doh:
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The assumption regarding Raf Simons' departure from Jil Sander has been that he was headed to Dior. Sounds logical and tidy, but here's what we're hearing. Dior indeed initiated contact and negotiations were moving along swimmingly, aided by the fact that the Belgian designer felt his time at Jil Sander had reached its natural and amicable end. In fact the two parties were close to an agreement until the last round of negotiations, when, according to our source, Simons asked for too high a salary. Dior CEO Sidney Toledano was apparently outraged, halted discussions, and signed Bill Gayten on for six more seasons.

Even if negotiations hadn't stalled, says our source, another obstacle would have been LVMH CEO Bernard Arnault, who, inexplicably, isn't sold on the idea of Simons at Dior. One possible explanation holds that he prefers Brits. Another theory is he thinks Simons' style is too dry and cerebral for Dior's opulent-minded couture clients. But while it's true he has no official couture experience, it's also true that couturiers need only provide a vision, with which the couture studio can handily create a collection.

If true, the above must be disappointing for Simons, whose eponymous line would have benefitted greatly from an LVMH infusion. We also hear he won't likely introduce womenswear into his namesake line, as has been the rumor, which means he'll probably return to focus on menswear, and that's that. Personally, we believe he would have made a brilliant creative director at Dior. He would have tangoed the house into the modern era with skill, artistry and finesse. Plus, with him there is no chance of a scandal—sex, drug, Nazi-related or otherwise.

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christopher kane is a good egg with a good head on his shoulders. he is too down to earth to work at dior.

i also think dior should let gaytten do his thing for a while. the last collection was excellent.

Christopher Kane would be perfect for Dior.
 
I think its time for some of the CEO's to leave and get people in with a modern and new bussiness persective for the brand.Sidney and Bernard are responsible for the state of Dior.Dior has become uninspiring / gimmicky / celebrity focused and simply stale.They rely too heavenly on styling ( unfortunatly we could say the same about a majority of fashion today)It seems to me that the heads at Dior want the designer to do as they say.All the money they spend on celebrities , but simply refuse to give a top designer a good salary Gatchett is the lowrated version of the lowrated version of Galliano.Christopher has no vision and keeps bringing out the same type of collections.He is an absolute lightweight.They only have themselves to blame for Dior's demise.
 
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^What do you mean "Dior's demise" :huh: ? Business-wise, Dior is doing perfectly well. They made profit under Gaytten and that's what matters. In the end, the customers keep fashion houses alive. As long as there will be people to buy what Dior offers, everything will be alright. I'm not sure those thousands of Asians and Saudi-Arabians customers give a damn about who's the head designer of Dior! They buy Dior because of what it represents (hence the amount of money spent on celebrities/marketing etc).

I think fashion lovers should calm down and put things in perspective before claiming that Dior is dead and blablabla. Dior isn't dead as long as it keeps making profit. And that's exactly what it does. If Gaytten's work meets the customers' expectations and if the cash still gets in, then let's keep him.
 
Dior will keep on making profit as long as they keep selling those perfumes and cosmetic products. I don't think the financial situation of the house is a point of discussion. Dior is one of the most legendary fashion houses in the world that should lead in terms of creativity and innovation. And it's not doing that right now. Galliano was fired for discrediting the image of the house, not because sales went down. That piece of credibility that is connected to the house has to be fixed. Gaytten for another 6 seasons? I doubt that will do the trick.

I would love Christopher Kane to give it a go.
 
i agree that Dior is not dead if it keeps selling and also because Gaytten has shown some improvement..
but i dont think the people at Dior are just settling with that otherwise they wouldn't even have bothered to look for designers,
Dior is one of the biggest fashion brands and they have a reputation to keep, i don't think they want to become a random brand that is commercially successful, they probably want to create buzz too and amaze people or at least the critics..

so, according to tarsha's post Gaytten supposedly signed for 6 more seasons!:shock:
i know i said i wouldn't mind that he stays longer but 3 years is too much!!:o
i guess it's nothing official though, as usual :unsure:
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Dior will keep on making profit as long as they keep selling those perfumes and cosmetic products. I don't think the financial situation of the house is a point of discussion. Dior is one of the most legendary fashion houses in the world that should lead in terms of creativity and innovation. And it's not doing that right now. Galliano was fired for discrediting the image of the house, not because sales went down. That piece of credibility that is connected to the house has to be fixed. Gaytten for another 6 seasons? I doubt that will do the trick.

I would love Christopher Kane to give it a go.

I remember reading that they did really good in the ready-to-wear and the leather goods, hence why I mentioned it. The financial situation is always a nice bell to ring when some start going crazy stating that Dior is dead or that it should close down until they get a "proper" designer etc (the latter being one of the stupidest things I've ever heard).

Once again, that creativity point is an honorable thing to mention but I'm not sure it matters that much in the end. I wouldn't say that Gaytten doesn't have any, he's just very commercial. And that may appeal to the customers, maybe more than Galliano's work. Times have changed and people are led to more "conservative" or safe choices. I believe Gaytten brings that.

I disagree with you when you say that it should lead in terms of innovation. Why should it? It should lead in terms of representing a certain kind of luxury, a certain kind of savoir faire. And that's what it does.

Finally, is it sad that those who like fashion doesn't find with Gaytten the excitement they had with Galliano? Yes. But let's stop acting as if that poor guy was the worst designer fashion has ever seen.
 
Gaytten did some rather hideous collections - like Galliano run amok. He hasn't presented a coherent post-Galliano vision either. The problem with fashion design run as a purely coldly calculating business is that fashion is also a marketing of dreams and desires. Without that myth-making behind it, it will soon lose its credence. Dior could sink to the level of once great brands like Guy Laroche or what Rochas became after Theyskens left, if the public ceases to get excited over its fashion collections and the buzz ceases. Like it or hate it (I hated it...), Galliano had a very distinct woman in mind when he designs for Dior, a cross between Pigalle and Rue St Honore, a little louche character fused with a venerable tradition and couture that somehow works. Gaytten's creations are simply...bizarre..and after all, there are all the Celines, YSLs, Chanels, Pradas, Givenchys and strong new competition waiting in the wings to grab the bags and perfume business that the fashion helps to sell.

Elsewhere, I predicted Raf Simons despite his brilliance, wasn't right for Dior, not for the Dior that Galliano helped to shape anyway..., and sadly, I was right.
 
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If Dior had the foresight to sign on Raf Simons, I think the shows will get very exciting again, as he gets to pit his designs against Hedi Slimane at YSL, Tisci's Givenchy, Phoebe Philo's Celine, and NG's Balenciaga, plus Raf Simons will be more liberated to explore contemporary feminism, unlike the constraints he faced at Jil Sander. Unfortunately, we won't, it seems!
 
While I can understand that time has to pass after Galliano's fall from grace (like Lucifer himself) before they pick another chief designer for Dior, it's also worth considering that as long as they don't have a strong persona at the helm, the Dior name becomes even stronger linked to Galliano.

In other words, it makes business sense to announce the heir soon. Or this is going to be a dark time for Dior as a fashion house. No offence to Gaytten who is capable and all.....it doesn't matter...with the start he's had he can't get the allure that surrounds a great designer.
 
PARIS–We know, we know. The rumor mill about who will succeed Galliano at Dior has gotten out of hand and we’re only contributing to it. But we couldn’t not share this juicy little tid bit. We heard from our source close to Dior late last night that flowers were delivered for Monsieur Ackermann, who, um, doesn’t work at Dior…yet? Our source called the situation “embarrassing” and “bizarre.”

Bizarre indeed. Ackermann was one of many names tossed into the ring as a possible successor to Galliano but was never one of the ones that stuck. It is worth noting that Ackermann did, of course, intern for Galliano, and told WWD of the experience that it was “the best study ever.” He also has admitted that he’s turned down nine different offers from various houses (but he’s mum on who they’ve been from) but said, “I would, at a certain point, accept a house which might fit me and which I would feel comfortable with–but there are not many.” When we asked him this past June what it would take to get him to take on a creative director position for a big house he told us, “That we both look at the same direction and have the same dreams…that those persons should not look at me and me not look at them but we both look a certain direction and have the same goal together.”

Could Dior’s dreams and directions have aligned with Ackermann’s? On verra…

Vogue UK got wind of the same information, and point out that Dior HQ and Ackermann HQ are three and a half miles from each other. The flowers, they infer, were probably not delivered by accident.

UPDATE: We just got word that Haider Ackermann has been looking to hire a new fulltime assistant. Not for his eponymous label, we hear (he already has an assistant there), but for something new…Nothing is confirmed at this point. And the plot thickens yet again.

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When it comes to Dior I'll wait for that damn press release until I believe anything. Marc and Raf have both been said to definitely have to job. Duh.
 
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