Fashion= Superficiality ?

[tinuvielberen]

I don't have the exact quote, but Virginia Woolf said it beautifully in A Room of One's Own: we live in a world dominated by male values and as such, things like sports and football are "important", but fashion and shopping are considered "trivial". For example, look at the space devoted to sports vs fashion in daily papers.

Agreed. What could be more inconsequential to daily life than whether a particular professional sporting team wins or loses? But the way one presents oneself to the world can have powerful effects on one's career and personal life.

I agree that the principal reason fashion is dismissed as being superficial is that it is mostly (note I did say "mostly", guys ) an interest of women, and women's interests are OF COURSE contemptible. I think for this reason, many women who want to be taken "seriously" in their careers, tend to dress very conservatively and not particularly fashionably.

 

[jssy4eva]

I For example, look at the space devoted to sports vs fashion in daily papers.

Seriously...and that's even if there is a Fashion section in the paper to begin with

 

[softgrey]

i would say that the vast majority of people who are into 'fashion' are incredibly superficial...imho...

 

[uberwench]

In reference to 'fashion' I am rather superficial. Having the right shoes to complete an outfit becomes of incredible importance... which is how I perceive superficiality (attatching importance to things that are, in the grand scheme of things, unimportant).

Lots of people I know who are obsessed with trends and fashion I do perceive (with a lofty superiority ) to be even more superficial than me in reference to fashion -I attatch importance to style, whilst people who are attatch importance to what's in, what's expensive and what carries status are elevating far less worthy gods, in my humble opinion...

...generally people don't think I'm superficial (although probably because I have a very, very serious face). I, personally, don't derive the depth in my life from clothes -they are, to me, no great window to some enlightenment. They're important to me, and I love them, but I don't take them seriously.

 

[Fruchtzwerg]

Friends of mine know that I'm not a superficial person just because I love fashion and having more than 50 bags because I love them. Everybody has a hobby, some people love watching soccer, tennis or doing painting and me love fashion. It's only one part of my whole interests, so judging somebody just because you know 10% of the person is stupid. I know that maybe some of my study collegues will call me superficial and crazy for fashion because I like to change my bags maybe 5 times a week ( so every day a different bag ) but I don't care ,cos if they are really interested in me , they could come and start a conversation with me to figure out that I have more interests besides fashion.( like I love soccer, racing , movies, debats about politics etc)
It's always easy to judge somebody because of his/her apperance,it's more difficult to start a conversation and getting know somebody and than you might be able to judge somebody.
I work besides my study hard, so I have the "right" to spend as much money as I like for my clothes and accessoires ( though I don't do that ) I have friends who don't work anytime and using all the time the money of their parents and spend like over 350$ just ONE day, okay fine if their parents can afford that , it's great . I'm not jealous but I think if you work for your money you will know how much it really is .

 

[lolita729]

just because someone loves fashion doesn t mean they re superficial, however there are plenty of people out there who love fashion and are superficial. it s very easy to cross to the superficial side but i think that as long as you have strong values and morals, you ll be fine. also, as soon as you start taking fashion seriously you become superficial.

 

[yoti]

You can be into fashion. I like to wearnice clothes...mind you, theres a difference between ridiculously expensive and nice. If you obsess into it, then I *think*there might be aproblem. Therse alot more to this world than fashion. I guess itall depends on what kind of priorities you have, and what importance you put on them.

 

[snowqueen]

I go to quite a posh all girls school and they exspect all their girls to go onto to be baristers or consultants etc. so when i said i wanted to work in fashion they really looked down at me.

 

[Lena]

lots of very interesting replies to a very interesting topic

adding it up , imho
*fashion is certainly not superficial..
*the way people 'understand' or 'react-to fashion is superficial
*people who work in fashion can occasionaly be superficial, but most
of those who've 'made it out there' are much less superficial than generally thought.
*perosnally nobody would ever dare calling my relationship with fashion 'superficial' ..after all i've been working in fashion for years
*fashion its self is totally ...misunderstood

which basicaly is fine, no probs..
if some people percieve fashion as superficial, superficial it will stay for them..

 

[travolta]

*the way people 'understand' or 'react-to fashion is superficial

you summed it up

 

[Dubuc]

LENA: you brought up a good point, saying that its the entire fashion thing that is really misunderstood. People should open their minds a bit i think. I mean, i wil never say to someone that what he is wearing is ugly but often I'v been told that what I was wearing was weird, ugly, doent fit me, gay (which im not) etc, etc...

I respect others, others should respect us.. in my opinion.

It's like saying to someone who doesnt love fashion that he doesnt mind about what they look, it is a false statement, as well as saying that everybody that love fashion are superficial.

 

[pointup]

i would say that the vast majority of people who are into 'fashion' are incredibly superficial...imho...

Oh, I agree... I don't think the two have to go hand in hand.. I think style is an art personally...

 

[Heroin_Chic]

No way!

To me Fashion is all about making the best out of yourself.

Fashion/Personal Style/the way you dress transports a message.

By wearing Pret-A-Porter I show that "only the best is good enough for me" and that I wanna be the best I can possibly be!

My Style/Clothes sais: "I work hard to be at my best!".

I also love the diversity of possibilities that Fashion offers: one day you can "a sexy Gucci woman", "a sophisticated YSL Lady", "a crazy Dior girly" etc.

 

[EmmyDesigns]

Superfitial, Fake, Fashion Freak, Obsessed i've had it all but to be honest i dont give a damn any more i am who i am and if people dont like it thats there problem! I'm not changing the habit of a lifetime for some arsy bitchy people!

 

[fab_fifties_fille]

I find it's the people who dont understand 'fashion' that jump to the conclusion of people being superficial. It's difficult to get people to take me seriously sometimes, I had a trial with my parents convincing them I want to go into fashion as a career, and because they don't understand it they don't (or at least they didnt) take it seriously, I'm a practical person and I wouldn't just jump into something, I haven't got one of these 'everything must be monogrammed or have a name on it' views on fashion. Which is what people would probably mistake it for as soon as you say your into fashion. I personally feel there's alot more to fashion than people think, I feel alot immediately jump to the conclusion of a celebrity i.e V beckham when someone mentions fashion. Alot of the 'celebrity' phenomenon has tainted the true meaning of fashion.

 

[Dubuc]

Alot of the 'celebrity' phenomenon has tainted the true meaning of fashion.

That is soo true.. I've been told yesterday that my only goal in life was to be rich and get nice clothings.. I was like very insulted and WTF!!
For people who doesnt know fashon at all, spending money on objects is not logic. I have tried to convince them that when I see a nice piece of clothing, I dont see it like a peice of material, but like a peice of art. But I lost my time since they are really stubborn.
Oh well, at least some of them understand and make good comments!

 

[fab_fifties_fille]

^ I agree Dubuc, the people around me tell me what I must think about fashion, when really they dont know a thing.

 

[Dubuc]

YEP! And I gets on my nerve when people that knows that you are into fashion, comes by you and start commenting what you wear, just to look interested or intersting. And its most of the time bad comments like: ''Oh you shouldnt wear that shirt with that pant'' or '' Nice tie, but why do you wear it that way?'' (like if there were only one pattern to fallow in fashion).


I understand their point of view, but for myself, I do not talk about what I dont know and I dont make any negative comments of what I dont know either.
That is the only thing that is hurting me a bit ...

And the famous question that comes ALL THE TIME: '' Oh you have a new sweater... How much did u pay for??''.... nothing else to say.. AHAHHA

 

[Arug]

The people who say that looking stylish is superficial, are that themselves, because they judge other people by their appearence!!!
To me fashion is expressing oneselfs feelings and ideals...
Lets fight for our right to dress however we want!!

 

[fashionist]

The people who say that looking stylish is superficial, are that themselves, because they judge other people by their appearence!!!
To me fashion is expressing oneselfs feelings and ideals...
Lets fight for our right to dress however we want!!

Very true, "judge not, lest ye be judged" or however the saying goes.