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Fendi x Skims 2021 by Steven Meisel

It's clear they don't want to present the clothes as "expensive" or "unattainable" and I understand that, but the background is just so cheap it takes away how gorgeous the shots look, especially Kim and Precious' solo pictures.
 
Reminds me of KUWTK promo pics when they were just starting out. Am shocked there's no scandal about Precious being slimmed down in her solo shot or is it Skims that did that? She does look good though
 
I’m laughing. Like actually clutching my sides with laughter. Every other Skims campaign is wildly better than this, so Kim is not the blame here…
 
Meisel is pathetic these days. This is exactly why he will never be in the same league as Avdeon, Penn or Newton.
 
For me, Kim Jones is irritating designer. All his steps and ideas in Fendi looks like midlife crisis. Everything is outdated. He would like be cool but as a last resort we see cheap brand without soul, as well as his scream of desperation.
Karl and Silvia always had beautiful vision of life in Rome. They created world in when disgustingly rich who live in some of the most beautiful mansions full of old paintings and other valuables. Of course, they wear outstanding clothes.

And please, I love Meisel but we are not going to pretend that each season he shoot for Anna Sui. His work for that brand is terrible, almost embarrassing…And she is his friend.
People forgot that on commercial ad - vision art director/brand is more significant that creative freedom.
 
Sick of this x that.


Sort of off topic, but jumping off this comment...

I've always pronounced the "x" in these type of collabs as "by", like Fendi by Skims. I don't exactly remember why I initially thought it should be pronounced that way, but I have always assumed the usage of "x" came from denoting hybrids in science where you use x which I think is the same symbol as the mathematical x, which I thought was pronounced as "by" when read aloud. But literally everyone I know of just says "ex". Am I the stupid one here? lol I don't know why but I absolutely loathe the way this "ex" that sounds.

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I’m laughing. Like actually clutching my sides with laughter. Every other Skims campaign is wildly better than this, so Kim is not the blame here…

Meisel fanatics will NEVER admit their god is way past his prime.
M&M, Steven Klein, and even L&L are way more creative, and interesting than he is these days.
 
If we talk about past their prime, Meisel is not the only one. So are Leibovitz, M&M, Klein, Jurgen, etc... They solely working right now based on their legacies and connections within the industry. Most of their works have been mediocre for the past few years.

Let's not pretend only Meisel standards have been dropped, the standards of the fashion industry have been dropped significantly since the 2010s. The works that Meisel (or any photographers, stylists, editors) churned out right now are only a reflection of the current time.

And Meisel doesn't need to be in the same league as Avedon, Penn, or Newton. Meisel came from a generation after them and he is great in his generation. It's pointless to compare the two different generations together. Each one of them makes an impact on the industry in a different way. That's like comparing Karl, Yves, or Miuccia to Chanel, Dior, or Balenciaga and saying that they are not great.
 
I've always pronounced the "x" in these type of collabs as "by", like Fendi by Skims. I don't exactly remember why I initially thought it should be pronounced that way, but I have always assumed the usage of "x" came from denoting hybrids in science where you use x which I think is the same symbol as the mathematical x, which I thought was pronounced as "by" when read aloud. But literally everyone I know of just says "ex". Am I the stupid one here? lol I don't know why but I absolutely loathe the way this "ex" that sounds.
It's 'by'.. 'ex' was likely slowly changed among younger generations that became familiarized to everything comprising 'H&M X LANVIN' (to use an example) in one go, so it just makes more sense to read these collaborations like that since everything in it is foreign/brand new. To put it differently, it sounds like the result of people that have grown up with these collaborations and only had initial exposure to some of these brands through that collaboration hype and who are now noisier and forceful at popularizing their way of pronouncing it.

I knew this one person (again, very young, 19-20) who seriously said 'elle-oh-elle', not sarcastically, not as a remark, nope, just.. heard something funny so.. elle-oh-elle. It's like you were in the real world, then in your cell phone for too long, then came back into the real world through your cell phone.. ⚗️
 
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Ok, I no longer feel like a crazy person. I don't remember the last time I heard someone say "by" other than me.
 
Could Kim Jones be any more predictable? Season in, season out, Jones relies on the creativity of others to lift himself up. Take away the "collab" element, and you're left with nothing of actual substance. He has no discernible aesthetic, no memorable looks, and has brought nothing to the fashion landscape except excessive obsession with vacuous celebrity culture.

Seriously, people give Maria Grazia Chiuri or Virginie Viard a hard time, but at least they're not lazy and being propped up by endless collabs. When Chiuri does a "collaboration", say with Niki de Saint Phalle or Judy Chicago, there is an actual conversation and interesting approach that translates more convincingly into the narrative that she has established at Dior. Ditto when Viard collaborated with Sofia Coppola.

Let's be honest, these Kim Jones collabs are just a straight forward cash-grab with no intellectual, aesthetic, or dynamic elements to them whatsoever. Fendi has completely lost its aura and everything that made it so unique and luxurious under the direction of Karl Lagerfeld. With this SKIMS partnership it has officially completed its transition into soulless corporate money-making machine. So sad.
 
And Meisel doesn't need to be in the same league as Avedon, Penn, or Newton. Meisel came from a generation after them and he is great in his generation. It's pointless to compare the two different generations together. Each one of them makes an impact on the industry in a different way. That's like comparing Karl, Yves, or Miuccia to Chanel, Dior, or Balenciaga and saying that they are not great.
He can't be in the same league with them and many others just because there is nothing original and unique in his work. It is all borrowed, inspired, recreated, etc. There simply would not be Meisel without previous generation.
 
I like more the pictures with the Herb Ritts aesthetics than this campaign, which I expect from Moschino, not Fendi. Now I can see Meisel working with Kendall and Hailey.
 
^It's kinda sad on these days. Anyway, the campaign looks like a video games propaganda with a cheap background inspired & Meisel copied the David Lachapelle's style.
 
Terry Richardson would have been a better choice.
 
The next miracle would be Kate by Meisel. After this campaign, Adele for British Vogue (and this crazy couple of years) anything can happen. I won't doubt if I read Rihanna or Gaga by him on the cover rumor thread. Even my cousin can be photographed by Steven at this point.
 
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If we talk about past their prime, Meisel is not the only one. So are Leibovitz, M&M, Klein, Jurgen, etc... They solely working right now based on their legacies and connections within the industry. Most of their works have been mediocre for the past few years.

Let's not pretend only Meisel standards have been dropped, the standards of the fashion industry have been dropped significantly since the 2010s. The works that Meisel (or any photographers, stylists, editors) churned out right now are only a reflection of the current time.

And Meisel doesn't need to be in the same league as Avedon, Penn, or Newton. Meisel came from a generation after them and he is great in his generation. It's pointless to compare the two different generations together. Each one of them makes an impact on the industry in a different way. That's like comparing Karl, Yves, or Miuccia to Chanel, Dior, or Balenciaga and saying that they are not great.
I don’t get this constant need some members have to prove that Meisel is past his prime. It seems like everytime there’s a lackluster work from him, there’s this « See, I told you! » kind of feeling.

At some point, everybody is past it prime. Simple as that. The only difference between Meisel and all the greats, from his generation or the generation prior to his, is that his body of work is really focused on fashion.

All others photographers, at some point, went more into an « Art » direction, doing portraits, setting exhibitions, releasing books, doing more special projects less fashion related. Penn wasn’t really trendy in the 80’s, before Anna made him made his return in the pages of Vogue, but he did other things. Newton either at some point wasn’t really hot. He admitted choosing a lot of things based on money. It was the only motivation…But, he continued to do Amazing portraits of rich people in rich situations from Monte Carlo to LA. Testino had his towel series and stuff, Avedon did exhibitions and portraits that solidified his place in the Art world…And sometimes, he would do a fabulous campaign for Hermès, reminding us how great he is, without necessarily challenging himself.

We are in TFS, we are snobbish and classist in every way possible but I don’t mind Meisel shooting Kim. He shot Nicole Richie.
It’s pretentious to assume that someone like him can’t be fascinated by this phenomenon. She is part of pop culture and he has done everything in his life…

It’s like Jean Paul Goude. He photographed Kim, he was a bit ashamed about it after because Grace didn’t liked it but it’s phenomenon nobody can escape. Meisel is not chasing money at this point, he is booked each season. So I really think he respond to what his collaborators suggests him…
 

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