Givenchy F/W 2022.23 Paris

[ghostwriter10549]

This collection has no real direction.

 

[Ruito]

I think Clare's mistake was that she thought she can handle menswear, while that became her downfall. If they were separated from the men and women the outcome can be different.

Do you think that LVMH will take Daniel back after the whole fiasco with Kering?

And what direction and vision for the house like Givenchy in the 2020s. Is it the Tisci dark, romantic elevated streetwear that becomes associated with the brand? Or is it McQueen? Or will they ever go back to the vision of Hubert? I think his legacy is so underrated. Maybe because it has been deemed as irrelevant by some people, but I think with the right designer his cinematic, old Hollywood designs can be relevant in today's fashion scene.

What was Daniel's fiasco with Kering? Do you have any insight on that issue?

 

[THD96]

What was Daniel's fiasco with Kering? Do you have any insight on that issue?

Long story short, Daniel was fired "allegedly" because a lot of people quit their jobs during his tenure. So Kering just fired him immediately.

Here is the article about it
Questions Swirl Over Bottega Veneta, Daniel Lee Split – WWD

 

[RaisinBoy]

You can leave NYFW but NYFW will never leave you.

HAHAHAHAH!!! so funny!
so true!!!

 

[RaisinBoy]

this is tragic!

 

[Lola701]

I think Clare's mistake was that she thought she can handle menswear, while that became her downfall. If they were separated from the men and women the outcome can be different.

Do you think that LVMH will take Daniel back after the whole fiasco with Kering?

And what direction and vision for the house like Givenchy in the 2020s. Is it the Tisci dark, romantic elevated streetwear that becomes associated with the brand? Or is it McQueen? Or will they ever go back to the vision of Hubert? I think his legacy is so underrated. Maybe because it has been deemed as irrelevant by some people, but I think with the right designer his cinematic, old Hollywood designs can be relevant in today's fashion scene.

Clare was very ambitions but didn’t have a frame to work on. It felt like she believed that Givenchy was a blank page. But it’s impossible to erase 12 years of fashion, even more when they were that glorious (the Riccardo years).
The key is to propose something similar in spirit but different in vision…À bit like Demna. His work is not that different from Nicolas in terms of spirit but totally different in terms of vision and execution.

Officially, there’s no reason to Lee’s exit from Bottega Veneta. It was amicable decision they said. If he worked on his attitude, I wouldn’t be surprised for LVMH to call him back. And his precollections showed a maturity that wasn’t necessarily visible on the runway, plus he can do menswear and womenswear.

I’ve always personally wanted someone from Margiela to take over Givenchy. I know Blazy did the Couture but who ever was in charge of the RTW and the Menswear could totally do Givenchy.

Hubert de Givenchy was a bit like Pierre Balmain as a designer. It’s very difficult to say what they were about. He made beautiful clothes, he was a grand couturier, he made a name for himself though separates and made comfortable clothes for Couture clients…But apart from the Bettina blouse and the Audrey dress, he doesn’t have a fashion heritage in a way. But chic is the word that defines his fashion.

I think they needs someone with a strong vision, even if it’s polarizing. Selling logo merch, sneakers and Antigona in 2022 is quite embarrassing.

And we know that it’s an issue when Bernard Arnault doesn’t mentioned one of his brand during his annual reports. And when Marc Jacobs is mentioned and Givenchy is not, you know there’s a problem…

 

[YohjiAddict]

The collection is such a mess, it starts very wannabe Helmut Lang (which is this person’s default mode) but that’s actually incredible once those cocktail dresses start to roll in.

In concept those dresses with pleating at the hem are not bad but the execution is criminal, they look so poorly made as to be an embarrassment for a brand that not so long ago showed couture collections.

On a positive note, I loved the soundtrack!

 

[FelipeV]

Givenchy is too big for this man.