Is the FW 2016 the worst season ever?

It was bad. Very bad. And it was boring.
John Galliano has shown great Margiela. Dries Van Noten has shown great collection. Ghesquiére has shown not bad LV, Lagerfeld has tried to do the clothes for every taste. Haider Ackermann was good.
Milan was not good as Milan could be.
London? Pretend to be a new Fashion Capital. New York? There are always few Shows which are really good and the rest is a streetwear and not the best one! :(


Lola has wrote "Now, everybody is doing Margiela... " Yes, you are 100 % right. Many designers tried to do it. There were many Margielalookliking pieces on the runways,most in Paris... Maybe because of Galliano in Margiela, maybe because of Demna's success with Vetements , same Demna had copied himself and Little bit Margiela for Balenciaga . ( i have seen today Paris Shows one more time, this flowers Dresses which Demna did for Balenciaga are similar to Galliano's Dress from his current! - Margiela F/W 16 -collection )
 
Fast fashion and social media trends have become a major factor to most houses in the past few years and it was never more apparent than this season. Everyone wants to be seen as cool and current with the Instagram crowd, so designers latch on to the people with the biggest social media followers and design collections that cater to their tastes.

Hook Anna and Chiara (and a million other 'style bloggers') as your brand ambassador/devotee and you suddenly have the attention of their backers who will make it a prioriy to buy your products. Why else have so many Instafamous (I hate that word) personalities front and centre at your shows.

It's become a popularity race, and many designers have begun to copy the work of others in order to tap into the success that they've had with the mainstream fashion crowd. They've sacrificed all that was unique and innovative with their design to do this and it's made the fashion pond dull.
totally makes sense !
 
Fast fashion and social media trends have become a major factor to most houses in the past few years and it was never more apparent than this season. Everyone wants to be seen as cool and current with the Instagram crowd, so designers latch on to the people with the biggest social media followers and design collections that cater to their tastes.

Hook Anna and Chiara (and a million other 'style bloggers') as your brand ambassador/devotee and you suddenly have the attention of their backers who will make it a prioriy to buy your products. Why else have so many Instafamous (I hate that word) personalities front and centre at your shows.

It's become a popularity race, and many designers have begun to copy the work of others in order to tap into the success that they've had with the mainstream fashion crowd. They've sacrificed all that was unique and innovative with their design to do this and it's made the fashion pond dull.

I feel like this "worst season ever" thread has been popping up a lot for the latest seasons. It just shows how bad fashion has become, and mainly because of the reasons you mentioned. Fashion needs a serious overhaul. I really hate instagram and cheap celebs
 
The sad thing is that the younger generation of designers is tapping into this Instagram- fueled design trend. When I first attended Uni (about 3 years ago) there were classes that emphasized finding and exploring your inspiration sources and relating them into your designs, half the class showed Instagram celebs and style bloggers, the other half had different sources, but as the term went on they began paying more attention to the Instagram crowd too. Soon everything began to look the same.

If this was happening since then do we have a future of sameness to look forward to in fashion?
 
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^Hmm... But that isn't important, is it? I mean, 99% of the fashion schools are a joke.

Since Internet exists some people have used it as a platform, and there have been many trends that didn't really have an impact in HF. I remember the blog era, the street style times (right now it is not relevant anymore), also Fotolog! (Pelayo for example was 'born' there'-it was about 2007-), some bloggers made it to the fron row (Bryan Boy, Suzzy Bubble, Tavi) and many people were mad about it, and now it is Instagram. I don't see the problem. I don't think it's very linked to what top designers do.

Of course if Gigi gets exposure for the brand, I understand they hire her, but that's something so remote that doesn't really say anything about the state of fashion. It was the same whith paying celebs to sit in the front row or to get an actress for the campaign. Mere publicity.

The real deal is somewhere else. I also think it has a lot to do with the fact that many people working in the industry have been doing the same for a million years and they are so blasé about it. They couldn't care less. They seem more focused in social life and getting likes in IG than doing what they have to do.
 
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Maybe that's it, they lost their love for creating in the quest of getting famous. Nothing else matters to them, especially working for their laurels. Everyone wants to be a star right?

As for most fashion schools being a joke, that's true. I suppose I'm still bitter over going to school to learn garment construction in depth and getting nothing new in the process. I transferred two years into my degree and haven't looked back.
 
Hmmm. I don't think so. It could make sense, but I don't think that's the reality. There are still some brands that don't belong to fashion conglomerates, some young people doing their thing...

As always, I'm super afraid of sounding Bergéish, because we all know time has something that makes the past more charming than it was. But I try to be as unbiased as I can.

Just see:

Ten years ago (more or less:( Tom Ford (well, in 2004) at his best, Hedi Slimane at his best, Nicolas Ghesquière being a genius, Alexander McQueen (I don't like him but he was very talented and a great leader), Galliano (for his own brand and for Dior), Stefano Pilati, Alber Elbaz being a God, Prada, I've always hated D&G, but they had some spark by that time, my belooooooved Lang (till 2004), Margiela, Riccardo wasn't that bad, we had Jean Paul at Hermès, Olivier Theyskens at Ricci, Chalayan...

And what do we have now? The only surprise to me was Phoebe. She was a total bore at Chloé, yet she has done incredible things at Céline. The rest? The duo at Valentino :smile:doh:smile:, Vetements :smile:doh:smile:, they guy at Gucci (one trick pony), Wang (I love him as a person but as a designer he is just... :blink:), Sarah Burton (cheeeesy and irrelevant), Olivier Rousteing at Balmain :smile:doh:smile:, D&G (just ridiculous), Hedi at YSL (I also adore him as a person, but he is quite a bad designer to be honest), Nadège Vanhee at Hermès makes a camel get bored...

Yes, there are some new and small brands here and there, which don´t belong to any big fashion conglomerate at all...but they are also following the fast-fashion approach.

You can clearly see this in N.Y. fashion week for example, where there are a lot of new brands and designers copying like mad from the few creatives names out there.
They want to be part of the high-fashion world; but at the same time they are behaving like fast-fashion labels.

I agree with you that designers were more creative just a decade ago. But you have to take in consideration than in just 10 years this has happened:

1-Production pace in high-fashion has gotten faster (the rise of prefall and resort collections everywhere. Even small up-and-coming designers are doing them!).

2-The madness of social exposure through internet (marketing more aggresive than ever).

3-"Disposable designers" in high-fashion labels (no time to create a strong identity for a label; or deeply modernize an already established one).

4-And the "burnout designer" syndrome (lots of production, no time for creativity)

If you take into consideration these four big changes in the period of just a decade, you can tell the frontier between high and fast fashion is very blurry. They are getting mixed.

And that´s a serious problem for creativity!
 
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In all my years on tFS I've never answered yes to this question, but this season goes down as the absolute worst for me.

Nina Ricci was my favorite collection for God's sake. Rough times.
 
Everyone wants to get famous but doesn't wanna work. And when you're famous enough you don't even have to try hard at work anymore. Just look at karl and Riccardo. The passion is not design anymore, it's fame and admiration. Back then in order to get fame you actually had to be good, and critics were honest and people were not so easily pleased. Now the lowest of the low is acceptable. Also, a lot of fashion jobs don't really require an education, just the right connections and marketing
 
I agree that a season without Elbaz is lackluster. I haven't looked at everything, but Dries was the only show I really loved. Liked what Marc Jacobs did too. I didn't see anything I was dying to wear.
 
I just realized it has been 10 years since my favorite season of F/W 2006! That was such a memorable season with so many great collections! I still get excited by just thinking of that season. And great magazine issues and ad campaigns followed in that season!

I don't know if I can call this season (F/W 2016) the worst because I am afraid there will be seasons that are even worse than worst coming soon. :ninja:
 
I just realized it has been 10 years since my favorite season of F/W 2006! That was such a memorable season with so many great collections! I still get excited by just thinking of that season. And great magazine issues and ad campaigns followed in that season!

Oh Yeah! FW2006 was exceptionnal...almost unmatched. Everybody delivered. The ressurection of Balmain and Versace, one of the best Louis Vuitton collection ever, Karl delivered everywhere and everytime (Chanel RTW, couture and Prefall and Fendi), McQueen at the top, Nicolas became the king of Paris, Miu Miu's exceptional debut at Paris, great Prada, classy Hedi Slimane, great changes at Cavalli and OTT Dolce & Gabbana on full force....oh that was great.:blush:
 
but nobody raises the question why are all of the designers so attention-seeking and resorting to the instacelebs? because times are hard atm, still. they're trying desperately anything to get more sales.

obviously i dislike it, like most of you all though. i do still enjoy the shows on the whole, i actually wish that they would remove all this pre-collection rubbish though (like burberry is doing which is such a great step imo) i only ever want to go in to the store and buy what's was shown on the runway, i only ever have.
 
^ Are times really that hard, though (I mean financial times)? Time has been harder before, I'm sure, and creativity still flourished. I guess the competition is now out of this world. How many designers/collections were shown 10-20 years ago, as compared to now? It all seems so saturated, how could there be room to stand out.
 
DISSECTING THE “F” WORD

A CUP of coffee between shows in Paris and the conversation turns to the only topic it can: what is going on in fashion right now? And by which we don’t mean hemlines, colours, and cuts. That’s what it used to be about: as simple even as that. Imagine. Now, technology, fast fashion, luxury, new names, old names, absent names, new markets, digital markets, demand, and impatience have all made it a far more complex sphere to orbit. And everyone is having some navigational difficulty, it would seem.

“There’s a struggle to keep up with the modern way to do fashion. It has had to change; it was stagnant in so many ways and no one knows what’s best. There is a disconnect. The industry in general is in a state of flux,” says Holly Fraser, editor of Hunger Magazine.

The “f” word is one that has been floating about the whole season – it’s really the only way to sum up what is or isn’t, what might or what might not be, going on. Especially at the top.

“The big names are struggling and the uncertainty of the designer behind many of them is making people question brand or designer as the key to fashion at its best and strongest,” points out fashion journalist Tony Glenville.

It was especially obvious at Lanvin this season without Alber at the helm (though Bouchra Jarrar has just signed up for the job), far less so at Dior, while Hermes finally got into its groove as Nadège Vanhee-Cybulski tucked three seasons into her belt, and Balenciaga – under the new direction of Vetements Demna Gvasalia – made a refreshing debut, delivering pretty much exactly what we had been after: something that struck archival cords and updated them through a contemporary lens. But we didn’t know until we knew – aka saw the collection, which had been the talk of fashion ever since the hire was announced last year. Would he or wouldn’t he make it a success? For up until then, Balenciaga had been on something of a journey of discovery since Ghesquière had left and hopped off to Vuitton – where, incidentally, things were ticking over very nicely, just as they were at Chanel. As they do. Over at Saint Laurent, we’re still left to play the guessing game about where Hedi might be off to with this collection widely touted to have been his last. More uncertainty. Who would go there instead? And just when he’s made it the go-to brand. There are vacancies, there are rumours and red herrings, and they all circulate around the big houses, the heritage stalwarts we look to for fashion safety and stability. And so in just one paragraph, there lies the twists and turns of the establishment and the luxury fashion landscape right now. For Paris is about nothing if not luxury.

“French fashion is synonymous with luxury because it means high quality products, hand-made fabrics. When talking about the French Woman ‘La Parisienne,’ this projects an image of timeless elegance, and refinement. Fashion is part of our country’s life blood,” confirms Cacharel’s brand president Jean Bousquet. The relatively heritage Parisian label (it launched in 1962) is on a brand repositioning mission at the moment, trying to traverse this brave new fashion world.

“The term luxury, like everything else, is in a state of flux,” continues Fraser. “Streetwear influences can be luxury now. It’s become more of a transient word, its meaning is different. It’s almost archaic to call something ‘luxury’ now.”

She’s right. It was those luxed-up trainers on the catwalk that did it two years ago. And you can’t help but be curious to know the difference in price point when it comes to the new Balenciaga collection versus that of Demna’s own cult Vetements: one from a luxury label in the traditional sense; the other part of a new breed of zeitgeist luxury.

“It’s [Paris Fashion Week] an exciting place to be as you get a chance to see some of the oldest most recognised luxury brands that have been here from the start, yet over the seasons I have seen more and more younger brands creating a very exciting space,” noted Huishan Zhang, a London-based designer whose own couture-crafted designs chime very nicely with Paris. Because for once, it’s as though the big brands are having to keep a look out over their shoulder. Or do they?

“These [new] labels do not want to be the next Armani or Ralph Lauren,” reasons Glenville. “They want to sell their clothes in selected outlets across the world to the right people in the right place. And I suspect that for some the long-term is now where they see themselves; they may eventually leave fashion altogether and do something else creative or join with a bigger label and disappear, it doesn’t matter. This is now.” Storied houses, however, are forever. Kind of.

“Heritage brands should stick to their guns – class and style never go out of fashion, but everything else does,” notes Fraser, flagging the importance of consideration. “There is something nice about taking time to think about who to put into these roles, people do need to think about what that means now.”

Because one of the issues is that everything got fast, too fast – be it the see-now-buy-now culture that began something of a landslide movement at the beginning of the season or the need to put named designers into vacant roles as a way to quickly recover some sense of trust and stability only to find the same thing happens not too far down the line again.

Of course, the Federation Francaise de la Couture has already said no to the aforementioned former new fast fashion system but the pressure is still on to fill those vacancies and as soon as one designer moves, a domino effect of career path changes will occur and the establishment as we know it might not look quite like it does anymore. But then fashion never stood still anyway.
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I wouldn't say worst. But then again, I like to take the positives out of every season.

New York was abysmal, besides Philip Lim, Thom Browne, Rodarte. The rest was below par-especially in the case of Proenza, Marc and Calvin. I expected more from those three.

It was my 7th season attending LFW. Possibly my favourite thus far. Met a lot of exciting people (including a very well-dressed Stefano Tonchi). I attended my first Mary Katrantzou show which was amazing. I look for excitement and it had that. The music (Dolly Parton's cover of 'Save The Last Dance for Me'), the models (the Pavlovas, Molly Bair, Lineisy) and the beautiful clothes. An unforgettable fashion moment for me. It was the highest calibre show I've been in attendance at. The upcoming designers presenting off-schedule was exceptional this season. Names to look out for: Steven Tai, Miuniku, Minki Cheng, Gabriel Vielma. One of London's strongest seasons, IMO. Nothing will beat F/W15 for me, however. But things are consistently improving.

Milan was impressive for Milan. Much stronger than in previous seasons. I'm always excited for Tod's which is an extremely strange sentence. Prada and Marni were beautiful. Finally, D&G departed from the god-awful Sicily theme. But it's an outdated brand.

Paris contained the extremely good and the bad. Rick Owens, Junya, Haider, Comme. Also the new brands are doing great-Atlein, Aalto, Koché, Y/Project, Jacquemus. The Miu Miu casting gave me a weird feeling. I quite like Bella Hadid and Taylor Hill, but, for me Miu Miu's casting is about the new faces to look out for. It made me think about Kendall and Gigi's presence and how they've annoying skipped the breakthrough stage in their career from new kids on the block to supermodel. I would have so much more respect for them if they walked shows like Dilone or Yasmin Wijnaldum. It would also make them look cooler-an all-important factor for these new Insta-models.

Here are my favourites of the fashion month, by city:


  • 3.1 Philip Lim
    Rodarte
    Thom Browne
    steventai
    Faustine Steinmetz
    Mary Katrantzou
    Marni
    Rick Owens
    Junya Watanabe
    Haider Ackermann
    Comme des Garçons
 
This happens every now and then.

They race through all the trends/directions too fast and then run out of (good) ideas for a while.

Also, if houses are too quick to drop someone, simply because they are a little ahead of their time, it will inevitably make other designers wary of trying anything too risky.
 
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And what do we have now? The only surprise to me was Phoebe. She was a total bore at Chloé, yet she has done incredible things at Céline.

...and yet, I would pretty much say the opposite.

I loved her work for Chloe and (with a few exceptions) have been bored to death with a lot of her work for Celine.

It all looked fairly competent, if you like that kind of thing, but exciting it was not.

Shows how we all differ.
 
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^ Are times really that hard, though (I mean financial times)? Time has been harder before, I'm sure, and creativity still flourished. I guess the competition is now out of this world. How many designers/collections were shown 10-20 years ago, as compared to now? It all seems so saturated, how could there be room to stand out.

Right, this is hardly the Great Depression, or even Recession. Fashion is so corporatized now that apparently profits and 'growth' are all that matter to those in charge. People don't seem to realize that when they talk with all this apparent common sense about running things 'like a business,' that what they're really talking about is sucking the life out of everything, and everyone, because that's what unchecked business does.
 
Fashion is so corporatized now that apparently profits and 'growth' are all that matter to those in charge. People don't seem to realize that when they talk with all this apparent common sense about running things 'like a business,' that what they're really talking about is sucking the life out of everything, and everyone, because that's what unchecked business does.

Very true.

I do think we are in a depression, though.

Or rather, we should have been, had we not (artificially) bailed out the banks and so on.

Ordinary people are still really struggling and the gap between the (super) rich and the poor has never been wider.

You may think that shouldn't matter to the big fashion houses, if the rich are the ones buying.

However, when more and more of the money is in fewer and fewer people's hands and all the fashion houses are all competing over that same money, that matters.

People will only buy so many clothes, however rich they may be.

It was far better, for the fashion industry (not to mention, for people and business, in general) when there were a greater number of (wealthy, but not super rich) people to sell to.

At the moment, we're basically living in the last stages of a global game of Monopoly.
 
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