Jay Z Physically Attacked by Beyonce's Sister Solange

[kokobombon]

^she could have at least try to talk her sister down... this passiveness is so much worse imo, in terms of public opinion.

 

[TianSoFine]

I agree that Solange's actions were quite terrible, but I feel you can't equate a man hitting a woman to a woman hitting a man. Sure it's all violence but it's not the same (maybe it should be considered the same, but that will happen if and when men and women are truly equal). If Jay-Z had walked into the lift and started hitting Solange like that, it would be seen as more unfair, disproportionate, vicious etc. It's like the only slight advantage that women have in this respect. But violence against women is the norm. People don't know how to react when a woman hits a man, because it's a less common and people look for explanations for it. He could press charges but many people would not press charges in this kind of family conflict situation, so he's hardly any different to the norm.

The Chris Brown situation was different in that he battered Rihanna to a pulp (obviously the photos of her face had a big impact on our perception of that incident) and threw her out of a car on to the street. It's just not the same as this incident, and don't forget there were many many women and men who looked for 'good reasons' as to why CB did that to Rihanna, so some people always think that if someone got a beating then they must have done something to earn it.

Solange has lost a little of my respect (I'm sure she cares) and the respect of others and now people think she's a bit cray. That's the price she's paid of this incident. I agree with happycanadian that Beyonce handled it as best she could given her status and other peoples expectations of her. Maybe the real reason for the altercation is totally different than we can imagine. They are a fascinating couple and we are all intrigued by their seemingly perfect lives, but it is indeed their own business. Many families have these kind of violent conflicts. Everyone usually covers it up, we can't expect them to offer us explanations.


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Thank you so much for saying this. Of course violence against men is not okay, but we shouldn't make it sound like we do a great job of dealing with violence against women. We shouldn't underestimate how many incidents go unreported because the victim does not feel like they have a choice or would be listened to, and this goes for both genders I think. The reason we hear more about violence against women is because it's actually shockingly common. And statistically, the cases with female victims tend to have more systematic violence that occurs over an extended period of time.

And I totally agree on the point about Chris Brown and Rihanna. You can't really compare the two situations because Rihanna came out of that situation so much worse.

 

[Les_Sucettes]

I agree that Solange's actions were quite terrible, but I feel you can't equate a man hitting a woman to a woman hitting a man. Sure it's all violence but it's not the same (maybe it should be considered the same, but that will happen if and when men and women are truly equal). If Jay-Z had walked into the lift and started hitting Solange like that, it would be seen as more unfair, disproportionate, vicious etc. It's like the only slight advantage that women have in this respect. But violence against women is the norm. People don't know how to react when a woman hits a man, because it's a less common and people look for explanations for it. He could press charges but many people would not press charges in this kind of family conflict situation, so he's hardly any different to the norm.



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I agree. I absolutely hate it when people try claim domestic violence against women is exactly the same as domestic violence against man. When they are completely different issues and extremely complex. The worst of all is that usually people that say this do it in the name of some sort of agenda that has nothing to do with "equality" like they claim, quite the contrary actually. I'm not saying at all this is what's happening this thread by the way/

I find Beyonce's attitude totally baffling. And Geez those are some crappy bodyguards.

 

[ronjaaa]

i never expected this from them, seeing the footage is shocking...
the way they look once they go out from the hotel shows how calculated/robotic there public image is. How they have to put on this mask to show they are united as couple and as family is ridiculous. Than we see Jay and Bey at that basketball game smiling.
The fact Bey didnt move or didnt do anything is totally weird too
Totally ridiculous but of course im super curious what was said in that damn elevator :-))

 

[Fernini]

Is it true Solagne deleted all of Beyonce's pics on her Instagram?

 

[Emmanuelle]

I have no idea, but I've read Beyoncé posted a few pictures of her sister and herself on Instagram

 

[Deleted member 116819]

Watch Wendy talk about this scandal! She has great insight and did some brilliant research!

(I won't tell you everything but it's regarding a tattoo that Beyoncé had, now she erased it)

Sad news I thought they were the last genuine and loving famous couple, alongside Pitt and Jolie!

 

[eternitygoddess]

^she could have at least try to talk her sister down... this passiveness is so much worse imo, in terms of public opinion.

Hold up. In the video you can see Beyonce speaking to both Jay-Z and Solange. Due to lack of audio, we can't hear her. It's very possible she was shouting at her sister to stop.

I'm baffled that people are complaining that Beyonce was "passive". What do you expect her to do? They were about to exit the elevator within mere minutes to hundreds of cameras. If you were in her position, would you really jump in the middle of the fight, and walk out looking all disheveled for the paps and give the media something to talk about?

 

[ronjaaa]

miguelalmeida thanks for sharing that Wendy clip, that was super interesting to hear what Wendy thought

 

[kokobombon]

^^Beyonce stays on the corner for the mayority of the time Solange lashes against Jay Z. At the beginning Solange´s clutch flies away hitting Beyonce and she doesnt even flinch. I think that was weird, acting that composed in that situation... kudos to her for remaining in character, I guess?

 

[Not Plain Jane]

While interesting, that video from the Wendy show is also very problematic. It's all speculation firstly, and secondly she condones - and even celebrates - Solange's physical attack and essentially says that Jay-Z brought it on himself. It may be true that Jay-Z has been unfaithful. However, does that justify his being physically attacked in an elevator at a public event? I'd say no.

 

[Label Basher]

^^Beyonce stays on the corner for the mayority of the time Solange lashes against Jay Z. At the beginning Solange´s clutch flies away hitting Beyonce and she doesnt even flinch. I think that was weird, acting that composed in that situation... kudos to her for remaining in character, I guess?

Yeah I agree. First time watching it I didn't even notice Beyonce was in the corner until she moved to in front of Jay.

The way the two women are acting with social media now is WTF. Like the whole thing is a joke to them.

 

[VersaceVixen009]

A day or two after the event in a total PR stunt Jay-Z and Solange went jewelry shopping together.

 

[Marc10]

^It was already stated false.

 

[Not Plain Jane]

They've released a STATEMENT

As a result of the public release of the elevator security footage from Monday, May 5th, there has been a great deal of speculation about what triggered the unfortunate incident. But the most important thing is that our family has worked through it. Jay and Solange each assume their share of responsibility for what has occurred. They both acknowledge their role in this private matter that has played out in the public. They both have apologized to each other and we have moved forward as a united family.

The reports of Solange being intoxicated or displaying erratic behavior throughout that evening are simply false. At the end of the day families have problems and we're no different. We love each other and above all we are family. We've put this behind us and hope everyone else will do the same.

Source: pitchfork

http://pitchfork.com/news/55221-beyonce-jay-z-solange-issue-statement-regarding-elevator-fight/

 

[Deleted member 116819]

Wendy shows 3 more plausible theories! Enjoy:



p.s. really realizing a statement! that's sad, and the way they are trying to put everything like it used to be is very desperate! every family has issues, you don't need to show everything is good when it isn't...

 

[CielDeLit]

I'm baffled that people are complaining that Beyonce was "passive". What do you expect her to do? They were about to exit the elevator within mere minutes to hundreds of cameras. If you were in her position, would you really jump in the middle of the fight, and walk out looking all disheveled for the paps and give the media something to talk about?

THIS, finally someone said it

She was wearing a really delicate and revealing dress (there was probably some boob tape involved)..So obviously she didn't want to take the risk and possibly exit the elevator with a ripped dress and her boobs out..

And she knows she's being filmed, she doesn't want to be seen in a fight and there's already a freaking bodyguard twice as wide as Solange who is supposed to do his job. She's probably speaking but we'll never what was said.

 

[Marc10]

THIS, finally someone said it

She was wearing a really delicate and revealing dress (there was probably some boob tape involved)..So obviously she didn't want to take the risk and possibly exit the elevator with a ripped dress and her boobs out..

And she knows she's being filmed, she doesn't want to be seen in a fight and there's already a freaking bodyguard twice as wide as Solange who is supposed to do his job. She's probably speaking but we'll never what was said.

The fact that she thought about her dress and how she would look in the paparazzi pictures after it, instead of doing something about her husband and her sister fist fighting in an elevator right next to you speaks volumes to me.

I love Beyoncé as a musician, but her personality always irked me. She's almost like a robot. Her entire life seems to be dedicated to building up this perfect public image of this perfect woman with a perfect body, perfect career, perfect marriage, perfect family, etc. I can imagine how furious she was when this footage was leaked. Not because of the situation itself, but because it would show some signs of trouble in paradise.

 

[TianSoFine]

I totally understand why Beyonce acted the way she did because I can totally understand that there are lots of women out there who care a lot about their careers and can think calmly under different situations. It wasn't like her husband or her sister were actually in grave danger, there was a security guard there who had a job to do, and like other people said she wasn't in a position to get physical. I don't get why her ability to act calmly and logically is so upsetting to people.

 

[EvaH]

I totally understand why Beyonce acted the way she did because I can totally understand that there are lots of women out there who care a lot about their careers and can think calmly under different situations. It wasn't like her husband or her sister were actually in grave danger, there was a security guard there who had a job to do, and like other people said she wasn't in a position to get physical. I don't get why her ability to act calmly and logically is so upsetting to people.

This. You don't get that far in life by being hot tempered imo..