Julian Roberts Productions (Nothing Nothing etc)

[evexa]

Oh My!
I cannot express just how much I love this line - everything about it is so enrapturing.

 

[travolta]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]A garment of the mind has no appearance or style.[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]A discontinuous garment with all the right details and openings,[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]though never together at the same place or time.[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]It is a garment that is strangely animated with movements & gestures,[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]some of which belong to the garment whilst others seem to have been mine.[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]Above all, it is a garment whose structure is an elaboration of its development:[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]A garment in a perpetual process of being remade.[/font]





[font=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]Words by Professor Julian Roberts[/font]

http://www.blowpr.co.uk/JULIANandSOPHIEsite/universe.htm



check out this interview

http://www.blowpr.co.uk/JULIANandSOPHIEsite/universeFILE/FMAG.htm

 

[fireatwill]

i'm amazed.

<3 me.

 

[nr9dream]

Fascinating thread I just found this. Their ironic concepts are not without reminding early victor & rolf experiments-> such as the promotion of an empty perfume bottle

I’m a bit less impressed with their pattern cutting ‘techniques’ The notes & sketches are amusing & almost a piece of performance art in itself…maybe that’s the point. But I find the results so ‘rudimentary’ (again, that’s probably the point but it doesn’t appeal to me) I had read about the pajama combat collection & that is perhaps my favorite in terms of the clothing The concepts are brilliant- Thanks for all this great info

 

[fireatwill]

i really liked their pattern cutting 'techniques.' it's so simple and yet so complicated. i don't know. i can't explain it. but, i adore it.

i do believe that they're a wee bit too dramatic. they seem like they needed to get over themselves. [sigh]

<3 farren.

 

[travolta]

i do believe that they're a wee bit too dramatic. they seem like they needed to get over themselves. [sigh]

i find it pretty refreshing. i can see why he teaches -- such enthusiasm is needed.

 

[kit]

i find it pretty refreshing. i can see why he teaches -- such enthusiasm is needed.

You're so right , travolta

 

[Pastry]

I find this thread probably the most intriguing on TFS. Ive been following it for a while and it never fails to suck me in. The first time I read this I was sad for the rest of the day. A very horrible fate.

 

[mishahoi]

I find this thread probably the most intriguing on TFS. Ive been following it for a while and it never fails to suck me in. The first time I read this I was sad for the rest of the day. A very horrible fate.

why is it sad? because the line was sold? cheer up! theyre still making clothes, after all

 

[Pastry]

Misahoi, I had no idea theyre still making clothes. I thought it was over and done with. What's Nothing Nothing's story after they sold?

 

[strawberry daiquiri]

Never saw this thread. So inspiring - I love to, even kind-of, encounter people who see the world with the eye of both an artist and a scientist.

'There is no failure except in no longer trying'.
-Elbert Hubbard

Thank you, cerfas.

 

[travolta]

I love to, even kind-of, encounter people who see the world with the eye of both an artist and a scientist.

right on sistah

 

[fireatwill]

they posted what they were doing in about hte middle of the thread. i can't remember. he went off and started his own label and what not. check the pages?

[farren]

 

[cerfas]

You're welcome, strawberry.
I really like your comment, about "artist and scientist"
I think I, or someone else, mentioned earlier in the thread that Julian (one half of Nothing Nothing) is still designing. His new label is called Parc des Expositions. There are photos up somewhere, if not in this forum then you can do a search online.

 

[Hye Park Lover]

Love their work, especially FW05

 

[Hye Park Lover]

Can I ask a question? Is "Parc Des Expositions" the same label as "Nothing nothing", but with a different name?

 

[finalfashion]

This seems too much like an elaborate manifesto justifying imagination without craft. There are some really great ideas. The p.r. is terrific and I loved the ideas in the notes. They shouldn't have bothered with the clothes.

As a generation, I feel we are losing skills and craft. Pretty words don't make a great garment. This is fashion p*rn, but no substance.

Still, I love fashion p*rn, but I sure wouldn't pay money for nothing nothing. Irony is cheap. Quality is forever.

 

[finalfashion]

Ok, a day later I've thought about it and I understand what they're getting at. The inherent quality of their work probably isn't that important. The ideas need clothes to finish the point. The ideas are very cool. But the clothes still seem anticlimactic. All that fuss for a twisted circle on a top or pants that look like a square when laid out flat? The patterns are cooler than the clothes... which does not justify the patterns as good ideas. On the plus side it has inspired me to think outside the box a little with my own patternmaking... but also to beware conceptual theories. Just because the pattern is cool-looking doesn't mean that the garment will be good. The merit of the pattern is judged by the final garment in my opinion. Which in this case leaves the concept lacking a little.

Yeohlee Teng is a designer who created clothes with patterns and markers that are just as stunning as the final garments... but in her case the final garments are beautiful enough to amplify, rather than discredit, her conceptual pattern drafting experiments.

I'm also mixed about the effect this has on students... on one hand the conceptual creativity offered allows new ways of thinking... but lately I'm becoming aware of the loss of traditional techniques. I'm afraid that the attitude of reinvention and rejection of tradition is quickly adopted because it is easier to acquire than actual skill, throwing centuries of hard-won techniques out the window.

 

[Yasmin]

I really like the person/people behind it, I love their sort of unfaze-able idealism. I am not sure "fashion" is the best art-form for them though. Fashion is probably THE most commercialized/popularity-based art form possible so if you are really, really, really idealistic and refuse to sell out at all -- you are probably making a misery for yourself staying in the industry instead of something less commercial. Perhaps an alternative would be to hire some nicely jaded PR people to advertise the product with strategies that would horrify the artist(s), but the artist(s) simply avoid thinking about this and go on creating. It seems hard to do though, really.

 

[mirrra]

Can I ask a question? Is "Parc Des Expositions" the same label as "Nothing nothing", but with a different name?

there is the same person behind the names
his [their] site http://www.julianand.com/
thanks for bumping the thread, guys