Matthieu Blazy - Designer, Creative Director of Chanel

[PDFSD]

Good point, the styling here adds contrast, but for the SS26 show, it played straight into a trope. I did love Blazy's debut (currently listening to the soundtrack in the background), but I can agree that it does feel too high-brow and conceptual for the Chanel.

It's on Tuesday. There doesn't seem to be any teasers yet, but I'm excited for see how show n'2 goes. I see it going either way, either Chanel will encourage him to pander to the clientele a bit more or they will brute force their way to an "New Chanel" in hopes that the clientele eventually yields to the new look (which they probably will, if it goes on for long enough).

I don't mind he goes conceptual and modern etc because original Chanel can be that as she was doing modern things for her time etc sure.

My issue is the lazy reliance of his styling tricks that actually look old and the overtly Phoebe go to tricks in design and overall style still to prevalent and lack of good cuts that are cool but also flattering.

I don't think clientele will mold into what blazy wants if he does not adapt to a reality of many woman bodies and wanting to wear things that don't make their shoulder wider or hips bigger or triple waist layers etc its just not going to happen on less some social norm of beauty changes.

Chanel is so big because they fit into many womens people's lives that are not into experimenting with unflattering tricky styling tricks.
Every brand that sells allot has a mediocre fit and taste for the selling collections, the mass audience taste is pop.
blazy is too overworked in craft or styling or does very flat things .....when you buy Chanel you don't want to be confused that its new Celine.

Its a club that welcomes like minded in, but not to change the rules so everyone can join it i feel.
I totally get to make something modern you have disrespect it as well, but it's an artform of disrespect i don't know Blazy knows yet at Chanel.

 

[alwaysademo]

she is wearing vintage Dior JG in Shanghai lol
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My bad She wore 3-4 looks and I took a screenshot of this one. The others were all Chanel

 

[Kanzai]

Ehhhh, I don’t think Matthieu is as “conceptual” as, say Demna for example. His crafts and techniques might be better than the latter but “conceptual”, hell not. His fashion is just performative quirky and they don’t make me question anything.

 

[PDFSD]

Ehhhh, I don’t think Matthieu is as “conceptual” as, say Demna for example. His crafts and techniques might be better than the latter but “conceptual”, hell not. His fashion is just performative quirky and they don’t make me question anything.

conceptuel as in light not hard core even phoebe prada etc is also concept .....which is a mental idea of something
relating to or based on mental concepts."philosophy deals with conceptual difficulties"

modernity conceptual intelectual all have degrees in execution ..like the concept of his show was Chanel universe and that its everywhere not just paris bla bla

 

[TurkicMongol]

Late to the party but I’ll say that I think it’s okay to simply acknowledge that (in your opinion) a figure past or present had values and morals different than your own and this doesn’t need to be met with so much defensiveness.

“CEOs today” and “there’s other people to hate” are bad defenses anyway. This whole forum is generally very critical of ‘the suits’ and this thread is about the current CD of Chanel… not about everything that’s wrong with the world. Lighten up.

Come on, Coco just wanted her business back at that time if I really remember well since I am not her biggest fan. To defend her or not, what sins she did at her time was mild compared to the atrocities that global elites did in the past two years. And from what I have read here, it is inevitably for people to compare the founder with the new one especially when most people don't like the work of the current CD. Whatever the hatred toward Coco as a person cannot deviate from the fact her being a revolutionary designer that Matt will never be. If people would bring up the so-called "horrible" founder, it is simply because the new CD really sucks.

 

[Lola701]

Come on, Coco just wanted her business back at that time if I really remember well since I am not her biggest fan.

Hmm I guess the fact that she also was in a relationship with Paul Iribe and helped finance his antisemitic journal called « Le témoin » was part of the equation. She just wanted to take back her business and if killing the weirthemers (because if they didn’t escaped to the US, they would have likely lost their lives on top of their stakes on Chanel) was the price to pay, so be it.

She escaped to Switzerland because her record during that period was less than glorious.

The reality is that Chanel had a very Romanesque life. She was a larger than life person. Coming from where she came from, she had to be opportunist to get to where she was at and in some ways, we can understand that someone like her wanted to protect what she fought so hard to acquire in the first place.

But it’s also ok to not like the persona of Chanel, like her style and love her work. I mean, she became that legend because of her work. All the trials and tribulations of her life are part of that legend.

In general people compare the work or elements of personality. I mean nobody ask a compatibility with someone who died years ago. Which was my point when the question of if « Blazy liked Chanel » was raised.

 

[yslforever]

For the NYC show, I am kinda expecting basic grey athletic sweatshirts but reworked through M19 so either fully embroidered or fully in feathers... plus some new models of those obnoxious CC sneakers.

 

[TurkicMongol]

Hmm I guess the fact that she also was in a relationship with Paul Iribe and helped finance his antisemitic journal called « Le témoin » was part of the equation. She just wanted to take back her business and if killing the weirthemers (because if they didn’t escaped to the US, they would have likely lost their lives on top of their stakes on Chanel) was the price to pay, so be it.

She escaped to Switzerland because her record during that period was less than glorious.

The reality is that Chanel had a very Romanesque life. She was a larger than life person. Coming from where she came from, she had to be opportunist to get to where she was at and in some ways, we can understand that someone like her wanted to protect what she fought so hard to acquire in the first place.

But it’s also ok to not like the persona of Chanel, like her style and love her work. I mean, she became that legend because of her work. All the trials and tribulations of her life are part of that legend.

In general people compare the work or elements of personality. I mean nobody ask a compatibility with someone who died years ago. Which was my point when the question of if « Blazy liked Chanel » was raised.

I know the Nazi narrative around her has been pushing for decades and even occasionally in the past few years, but it is just ironic that the people who control the narrative didn't or don't weaponed the cancel culture against her like they did for other people because they still want to profit from her legacy/brand. I bet if not for ther Nazi narrative, no one would give a damn for her personality as she is just another diva like others. In regarding "if Blazy liked Chanel", I agree with PDFSD "if he doesn't like Chanel, just work for other brand" and there will be no loss for the fashion world.

 

[Lola701]

I know the Nazi narrative around her has been pushing for decades and even occasionally in the past few years, but it is just ironic that the people who control the narrative didn't or don't weaponed the cancel culture against her like they did for other people because they still want to profit from her legacy/brand. I bet if not for ther Nazi narrative, no one would give a damn for her personality as she is just another diva like others. In regarding "if Blazy liked Chanel", I agree with PDFSD "if he doesn't like Chanel, just work for other brand" and there will be no loss for the fashion world.

I don’t think it’s a question of a narrative. Those are just facts. And she was later rehabilitated. I don’t care that much for cancel culture. The Chanel/Nazi question was settled at least in France for years now, both in creative circles or as a whole in French society because her as public persons represented probably the reality of many families who may have later joined the resistance.
For me it’s a subject that is settle.

My point is simple: you don’t have to like someone personally to love their work. And I find it intellectually dishonest to enjoy the personality of someone you have never met to love their work and work for their brand.

And I try to expand it beyond Chanel because if we have to do that for all the brands, we will never get to it. If we have to dig deep into the personality of Thierry Hermes to judge if someone is worthy of working for them…

Maybe we can simply disagree on the question.

I find it super ironic because I wonder what will be the next justification for the dislike of Blazy being at Chanel or at least the trial in legitimacy of him being there.

Nobody cared or assumed that he may or may not liked personally the people from the Moltedo family at Bottega Veneta who for the most part are still alive.

 

[TurkicMongol]

I think probably from what I have read here throughout the years where people have better knowledge of fashion history than average people, the disdain for Coco here is always about the Nazi affair, but in reality I don't think people around the world other than western countries care about such affair or have any knowledge about it as much as us in fashion circle since the majority of people are just buying into the prestige/aura of the brand other than digging into the history of the brand. As for the new CD, it is fair to say he has been a disappointment. He had a good concept for the show, but he just failed to deliver anything relevant to the concept. He could have watched and explored those astronomy documentaries or even astrology histories to get inspiration for his work, but he didn't bother to do it so he had no idea that even the beauty of creating process of the universe can inspire new silhouettes, different structure or even embellishments for his designs. In general, I love designers exploring nature, culture and even society for their work like the great Karl and YSL, but this generation of designers are just too lazy in general to deserve my respect.

I think Chanel, Balenciaga and the likes are fashion brands which will be forever associated with its founders for us and the people who care about fashion, but leather goods brands has less fashion relevance to begin with so it really doesn't matter if the new designer like its founder or not. In the case of Chanel the brand, it is always about the ideals of Coco herself, her personalities which is an important part of her aesthetics and the kind of woman she liked or dislike, I think it is unfair to go against her work/personality if any designer want to work for the brand. I am naive so I would suppose Blazy likes Chanel so he joined the brand, but the result is quite lacklustre for my taste regardless the fact that we like him or not. The biggest fashion brand is in his hand, so it is inevitably we will bitching about it like we did to every designer here.

 

[Lola701]

The biggest fashion brand is in his hand, so it is inevitably we will bitching about it like we did to every designer here.

I feel no way expressing what I like and don’t feel ashamed doing so. The same way, I could not feel a way about people bitching or expressing their dislike about his work.

And any disagreement can be interesting for a conversation like obviously people have here.

Nobody expect any designer to have a personal liking for Balenciaga, Dior, Givenchy and all the brands that are Couture brands. Mr Givenchy only had lunch with Riccardo and had the displeasure of seeing one of his successor dismiss his work while being alive…We love the idea of passing the baton and mutual liking when the founders are alive.

Now I’m just discovering that for some people, it’s a rule that should be applied regardless of the fact that people are dead or not. It’s a point of conversation that is interesting…

It’s only my opinion and I don’t expect it to be a rule so for me, I don’t care if a CD doesn’t personally like the founder because I assume based on nothing he said on a public platform. Those are only assumptions and even if it was the case, my only concern is the work.
MGC for example has obviously a lot of problems indulging in the very feminine, womanly nature of Dior. But she managed to find something in his work that spoke to her.

Nevertheless, I’m still excited by what Blazy has to propose. Nobody ever did a tenure that satisfied everybody but I’m excited to see his next show and his Couture.

Tbh out of all the debuts we have seen in September/October, I’m more excited to see Couture in January and FW, which usually allows people to do more.

 

[PDFSD]

I know the Nazi narrative around her has been pushing for decades and even occasionally in the past few years, but it is just ironic that the people who control the narrative didn't or don't weaponed the cancel culture against her like they did for other people because they still want to profit from her legacy/brand. I bet if not for ther Nazi narrative, no one would give a damn for her personality as she is just another diva like others. In regarding "if Blazy liked Chanel", I agree with PDFSD "if he doesn't like Chanel, just work for other brand" and there will be no loss for the fashion world.

also the wertheimer forgive her... so who am i to hold her bad choices against her post her death beyond condemning it as not morally right as far as i know the story, the wertheimer won any way as her legacy made them billions for generations to come.

again the video that understitch did i think non of use seen it yet so its a mystery what the point of views are shared in the video.
i thought its interesting to share.

gabriel is an interesting figure nonetheless , i think most things she did that where mean or not ok men did and do every day in business life, i think that part intrigues me beside how she accumulated and developed her style from different influences , smart opportunist much like a steve job mean and opportunist taking from other brands putting it under one clear vision like a religion.

and selling a total idea/look/way of life at a premium

 

[PDFSD]

I don’t think it’s a question of a narrative. Those are just facts. And she was later rehabilitated. I don’t care that much for cancel culture. The Chanel/Nazi question was settled at least in France for years now, both in creative circles or as a whole in French society because her as public persons represented probably the reality of many families who may have later joined the resistance.
For me it’s a subject that is settle.

My point is simple: you don’t have to like someone personally to love their work. And I find it intellectually dishonest to enjoy the personality of someone you have never met to love their work and work for their brand.

And I try to expand it beyond Chanel because if we have to do that for all the brands, we will never get to it. If we have to dig deep into the personality of Thierry Hermes to judge if someone is worthy of working for them…

Maybe we can simply disagree on the question.

I find it super ironic because I wonder what will be the next justification for the dislike of Blazy being at Chanel or at least the trial in legitimacy of him being there.

Nobody cared or assumed that he may or may not liked personally the people from the Moltedo family at Bottega Veneta who for the most part are still alive.

For me personality of a designer matters as the work is an extension of that personality and point of views in life etc .
of course taken aside bad choices.
I like coco´s personality i see her as a not perfect person , karl also i love how he thinks even for things i think ok you are way smarter than this to say it like that .

There are many designer i don't like how they think or behave and there also can't respect their work because the work is as cheap as their behaviors or outlook on life , like nicolas balenciaga versus nicolas LV one i love the other i don't like both what they say and do and make ....

To me its very connected because it's an extension of thoughts and quality of work .. like phoebe is authentically herself and she has also difficult sides to her but what she said i past compared to recent interviews and what her team told me its all matches and also with her work.

I even like Victoria Beckham because she is pushing to do a great job beyond her creative talent ad she is controlled and also funny as well als you can see she is trying to find her way (i did not tink the last netflix doc was well done but that's another conversation)

Daniel Lee i know is arrogant and full of himself and the work at Burberry flops and its a direct result of his arrogance and other stuff i don't care to get into any more .

And many more i know first hand as well.

The next justification for the dislike of Blazy will be up to blazy ...another half baked collection? no hit items? boring adv? cheap looking products? etc its not a Blazy problem its for every brand creative new director its normal people or clients have high expectations.

Why is it an ironic thing to dislike or be critical it really don't understand this ...... all we do is like or dislike on her, some designer more intensely than others sure but Chanel is special so the analyzing goes beyond ...i want this shirt or that bag or where can i download the soundtrack. etc

last time i checked BLazy is a social media and press darling since his margiela and BV days, its only now with chanel with some clients online you hear some sensible comments on his work not relating to actual customers needs.

Can't think ahead of debut because we seen nothing yet , we see the debut cant judge its only the start , we see commercial collection , dont judge its just commercial stuff , etc etc dont say anything because he is hated on to much ....

i give up lol