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baklanyc said:
I tried on a pair at Louis, they were pretty damn comfortable. I don't remember them being overly designed, or having any very visible insignia, but I wouldn't quote myself on that, so you shouldn't either. I've tried on a lot of stuff this Spring, and bought very little
Has anyone tried Slab, by Rick Owens? I wasn't sold until I tried them on--I got black/brown waxed jeans. Even though I like to swear up and down I'm not going to pay a lot for premium denim, I did pay 250 for them--which isn't the top pricepoint, but certainly isn't the bottom of the range. I like them better than Dior Homme, personally, which might be heresy to some (well, many).
kLm said:I tried on a pair at Louis, they were pretty damn comfortable. I don't remember them being overly designed, or having any very visible insignia, but I wouldn't quote myself on that, so you shouldn't either. I've tried on a lot of stuff this Spring, and bought very little
Has anyone tried Slab, by Rick Owens? I wasn't sold until I tried them on--I got black/brown waxed jeans. Even though I like to swear up and down I'm not going to pay a lot for premium denim, I did pay 250 for them--which isn' t the top pricepoint, but certainly isn't the bottom of the range. I like them better than Dior Homme, personally, which might be heresy to some (well, many).
OMG, you will burn in hell for that one!!!
I never tried Slab's on, because the ones I've seen were very soiled. Besides, after seeing a ton of them on sale, I figured that Slab has the same fitting issues the main line does.
And after seeing photoshoped self-portraits of an exposed Rick Owens peeing on himself, I have a bad image of how those jeans got soiled.faust said:OMG, you will burn in hell for that one!!!
I never tried Slab's on, because the ones I've seen were very soiled. Besides, after seeing a ton of them on sale, I figured that Slab has the same fitting issues the main line does.
Where are they stocked in NYC, faust? I've never seen Slab. I generally have a bias against Rick Owens' stuff after seeing the first two collections he did for me, and not loving anything.
baklanyc said:And after seeing photoshoped self-portraits of an exposed Rick Owens peeing on himself, I have a bad image of how those jeans got soiled.
Where are they stocked in NYC, faust? I've never seen Slab. I generally have a bias against Rick Owens' stuff after seeing the first two collections he did for me, and not loving anything.
Why sir, there was a ton of'em in Jeffrey last season! How could you miss that?
jhaime said:They don't put Logo's on the jeans...:S
It's a distressed jean...
Although they do have dry resin jean, It's far more expensive mind, But certainly worth it.
They're a more dressy jean, can wear them with a nice pair of Jeffery West shoes
Well, maybe I'll see if they have them at the stores here. Thanks for the tip. Although I'll be more likely to wear them with Helmut Lang or N.D.C. shoes. Jeffery West is too conservative for me!
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Okay, off topic:
It's a very pretty site, to be sure, but pretty doesn't mean it's an effective one. I'm afraid that in this day and age of usability, it fails to give you the information you want when you want it. I had to wade through page upon page of unnecessary atmospherics and imagery, which don't matter to me so much as trying the product, but after over a dozen linearly-loading pages, I could still only find the wholesale rep, and STILL have to contact them find out where the jeans are sold. Even the woman at the wholesale rep office for Blueblood in NYC complained that it doesn't tell you where to buy the jeans in NY.
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baklanyc said:Well, maybe I'll see if they have them at the stores here. Thanks for the tip. Although I'll be more likely to wear them with Helmut Lang or N.D.C. shoes. Jeffery West is too conservative for me!
Okay, off topic:
It's a very pretty site, to be sure, but pretty doesn't mean it's an effective one. I'm afraid that in this day and age of usability, it fails to give you the information you want when you want it. I had to wade through page upon page of unnecessary atmospherics and imagery, which don't matter to me so much as trying the product, but after over a dozen linearly-loading pages, I could still only find the wholesale rep, and STILL have to contact them find out where the jeans are sold. Even the woman at the wholesale rep office for Blueblood in NYC complained that it doesn't tell you where to buy the jeans in NY.
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FWIW, it does show a list of stockists
RE: Slab, I have serious problems with his sizing in men's clothing--utterly loopy. I do like his clothes, though, and I might be tempted to buy them if they fit--price points aside. And I suppose that the jeans do have a "soiled" look/feel, although it goes away rather quickly (i.e. it seems to be an oily wax veneer that wears in or away). I haven't seen past versions of the jeans, but I'm really liking the ones I've got.
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kLm said:FWIW, it does show a list of stockists
RE: Slab, I have serious problems with his sizing in men's clothing--utterly loopy. I do like his clothes, though, and I might be tempted to buy them if they fit--price points aside. And I suppose that the jeans do have a "soiled" look/feel, although it goes away rather quickly (i.e. it seems to be an oily wax veneer that wears in or away). I haven't seen past versions of the jeans, but I'm really liking the ones I've got.
I don't believe there are past versions. As far as I remember, he only started Slab last season.
baklanyc said:[rant]Well then, Keith, you know what I'm talking about (who knew that we were in the same field? My own title when I worked at interactive agencies was CD, but I pride myself on having done IA before IAs became an official job description). Flash is pretty, but when used ineffectively, it hampers more than helps. Not to mention bad for anyone who wants to run search engines to find info on this site. I didn't see a single meta tag in the source code. It's like clothing that is nothing but the highest quality embroidery and details, but on on a really badly-constructed pattern!
32 screens. That's how many I had to wade through exactly to get to a map that showed Atrium & Bloomingdales in NYC as stockists, but the rep meant that there was no address, no contact info for those stores, and no idea if they meant Bloomies uptown or downtown, nor if it was this season, or last, or next. I still had to go an extra step and find the info by calling directly.[/rant]
Oh, believe me, I get it. I oversee some IA folks, and this kind of stuff would make their heads spin. I mean, there is _no_ architecture there. This sort of stuff drives me mad--this site sums up, in a nutshell, how labels SHOULDN'T use the web. I understand that exclusivity is part of the game, but if people are seeking you out, shouldn't you at least provide a way for them to FIND you? Cloak's site is another example--at least link to the stores that have web sites! We should band together and sell our services to labels for merchandise...
Hey, I've even got some pretty good code libraries that can shoot a site to the top of google in a hurry.
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it would be nike pants and t shirts all the time...kLm said:Oh, believe me, I get it. I oversee some IA folks, and this kind of stuff would make their heads spin. I mean, there is _no_ architecture there. This sort of stuff drives me mad--this site sums up, in a nutshell, how labels SHOULDN'T use the web. I understand that exclusivity is part of the game, but if people are seeking you out, shouldn't you at least provide a way for them to FIND you? Cloak's site is another example--at least link to the stores that have web sites! We should band together and sell our services to labels for merchandise...
Ooh, I need me some of that! I have a site that'll need that kind of visibility soon!
Paul Smith is a site that has made the change from Flash to more basic html, and now you can actually get info without having to endure downloads. Let's go barter our services for Cloak wear and jeans!
Ok guys.
Lets get one thing straight.
I don't know about you, but I don't take kindly to the language that was used by stig of the dump...?
as for the site...yes i agree, flash sites are just totally needless.
However, at the end of the day, they're not selling on the site and they're using the platform as a concept. Therefore flash is perfectly acceptable.
I like the site, as it makes sure you see everything behind the label and what goes on, and you have no choice about that. I've seen things I never knew about the label and that I would have never seen if they had not designed the site in such a unique way.
That is why I find it a very well constructed site, as it serves the purpose to what it was built for. Which is to show the label in its entirety.
Lets get one thing straight.
I don't know about you, but I don't take kindly to the language that was used by stig of the dump...?
as for the site...yes i agree, flash sites are just totally needless.
However, at the end of the day, they're not selling on the site and they're using the platform as a concept. Therefore flash is perfectly acceptable.
I like the site, as it makes sure you see everything behind the label and what goes on, and you have no choice about that. I've seen things I never knew about the label and that I would have never seen if they had not designed the site in such a unique way.
That is why I find it a very well constructed site, as it serves the purpose to what it was built for. Which is to show the label in its entirety.
baklanyc said:Ooh, I need me some of that! I have a site that'll need that kind of visibility soon!
Paul Smith is a site that has made the change from Flash to more basic html, and now you can actually get info without having to endure downloads. Let's go barter our services for Cloak wear and jeans!
Hey, I'm definitely down! You can take the jeans, though--while it is funny to see me try to get them on, it isn't THAT funny. I did pick up a S/S piece, by the way, a lightweight jacket that is sort of cut like a shirt at the hem. I don't see it online, and I don't remember seeing it at Opening Ceremony, so maybe I'll just post a picture (with the digital camera that I don't have.. ok, forget it).
And how much was this animal? And was it denim or canvas?kLm said:Hey, I'm definitely down! You can take the jeans, though--while it is funny to see me try to get them on, it isn't THAT funny. I did pick up a S/S piece, by the way, a lightweight jacket that is sort of cut like a shirt at the hem. I don't see it online, and I don't remember seeing it at Opening Ceremony, so maybe I'll just post a picture (with the digital camera that I don't have.. ok, forget it).
jhaime said:
It doesn't offend me, but this board tends to be more civil than that.
jhaime said:
I totally disagree that Flash is acceptable in this context. Ok, I'm completely, 100% biased against the technology--that's a given. I will acknowledge that as a visual presentation tool, a good Flash "artist" can do some wonderful, innovative things that can't be done using XHTML/CSS. However, in this case, the core information that most people need--where I can I buy this company's product?--is buried deep in the document. If they separated it out--hey, click here to see what we're all about in this great Flash presentation, or click over here to see where we're retailed and find out our contact information--then I could live with that. The site is supposed to be a promotional tool, and it is failing in that capacity.
Not only that, but using Flash keeps you out of the search rankings. Metatags just don't cut it any more. These companies need to learn how to provide the information that people need while still slickly presenting their goods--and it can be done, they just don't seem to recognize the shortcomings of the technology they've chosen.
baklanyc said:
Umm, let's skip the whole price thing. It is cotton. This is probably it: black cotton field jacket, it also seems to be on the Cloak site under that name. I'd guess that's what the item is, but you can't see any of the details at all.
What's really weird is that everyone is stocking this, which was shown in F/W, but is on the racks now: riding jacket
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I click on Collection and that's it for most of the websites I visit. I learn nothing about that label, apart from this seasons collection.
Fair enough, sometimes that's all I want.
However with Blueblood, you get to see every detail behind the label itself.
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I click on Collection and that's it for most of the websites I visit. I learn nothing about that label, apart from this seasons collection.
Fair enough, sometimes that's all I want.
However with Blueblood, you get to see every detail behind the label itself.
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