Oprah refused entry at hermes store

[meme527]

modelmama, don't waste your breath - you can't have a battle of the wits with an unarmed person!

we'll find out what happened eventually.

 

[Diorling]

Hang-on!

So what if she was having a diva moment! What if it WERE Madonna, or Celine, or even Gweneth instead of Oprah. Don't you think it would have been a different story?

:::SCOFF::::

I dont know what would have happened, I know if it were Celine they'd close the blinds. Madonna or Gwenyth though, I think they might have done the same thing, though someone as high profile as Madonna would have called ahead.

modelmama, don't waste your breath - you can't have a battle of the wits with an unarmed person!

we'll find out what happened eventually.

How rude. We're having a polite conversation about Oprah being turned away from an Hermes store where reports of her arriving late were confirmed by both parties. So...I suppose you're the unarmed person.

 

[*Happiness*]

I thought the store was closed to the general public due to some private in store event??? Because her hair wasn't done??? That doesn't even sound right! North Africans? that's weird. I don't believe that.

 

[meme527]

IHow rude. We're having a polite conversation about Oprah being turned away from an Hermes store where reports of her arriving late were confirmed by both parties. So...I suppose you're the unarmed person.

polite? umm. okay. seems pretty heated to me, considering no one really knows what happened yet. but we can agree to differ in this, as we do in so many things, diorling.

in this case, it isn't even clear what took place, so it is provoking to hear people accusing oprah of more and more bad behaviour without a shred of evidence. i suppose i was giving modelmama the advice i should be taking myself - to read this thread with a sense of humor and an attitude that much of what people say is reflective only of their lack of knowledge in the matter, no more.

i do hate to see someone's character maligned in this way, though, and i guess it got to me. if that displays a lack of wit, then i'm guilty as charged - and proudly so, i might add!

 

[Grill]

Hang-on!

So what if she was having a diva moment! What if it WERE Madonna, or Celine, or even Gweneth instead of Oprah. Don't you think it would have been a different story?

:::SCOFF::::

With Hermes...in Paris...? NO I don't think they would have opened the store there and then for a celebrity to do some shoping! For example - when Catherine Deneuve - megastar here in France - shops at Prada or LV - she goes during opening hours and blends in unobtrusively with other shoppers with no hangers on or body guards, etc...- that's how it works here.

 

[modelmama]

OK- so she SHOULD have called ahead to announce that she would be stopping by....blah blah blah WHATEVER!

To me, it seemed like it was a spur of the moment situation. And maybe she did not want it to be leaked that she would be stopping by the store. It was a birthday gift she was looking to buy for Tina Turner.

Catherine Deneuve and Oprah are CLEARLY obvious - as well as not so obvious - they are two different women.

Look... at the end of the day- if there were no "special" treatments made to celebrities - and non celebrities as well (there are MANY wealthy people that are not celebritites) they wouldnot come to expect special treatments.



Come on....If you have just spent at least 80,000.00 in ONE shot on bags- AND were interested in buying yet another--- not counting how much money you may have spent in the past--- wouldn't you expect some sort of consideration. Consideration, not neccesarily accomodation. Its not so difficult.


Why didnt they just give her the watch she wanted and then charge her later for it. Its a normal thing.

I Bolding

 

[modelmama]

I dont know what would have happened, I know if it were Celine they'd close the blinds.QUOTE]

 

[Assembler]

Come on....If you have just spent at least 80,000.00 in ONE shot on bags- AND were interested in buying yet another--- not counting how much money you may have spent in the past--- wouldn't you expect some sort of consideration. Consideration, not neccesarily accomodation. Its not so difficult.

I think the main problem I'm having with this whole story, is not that her celebrity status wasn't given special treatment, NOR that she wanted it to be given special treatment. My problem with this situation is that she is making allusions of racism, with the crash comment, (even though btoh side deny that racist comments were used), and won't even speak up about it until her show starts. This is all self promotion, and deffinitely the race card being pulled. I think that racism is such a serious allegation, it should not be thrown around everytime you're snubbed. If she were correct that they would have let in Madonna, then really all she has to complain about is that she's not as high on the celebrity ladder in France as she is in the US. But since that's purely conjecture, it's really in bad taste to make that kind of statement.

 

[modelmama]

Sorry Assembler, I must disagree with your post.

I strongly believe that Oprah did not use the race card. She doesn't need to. These sorts of things happen all the time and everyday.

She felt discriminated against. Has nothing to do with her place on the celebrity ladder -. Come on, to compare Madonna to Oprah on the basis of talent is a null point. However to compare Madonna to Oprah on ......race- well, society as well as Hermes will chose Madonna. Yes Madonna wins.

Oprah waiting till Sept is a terrific move!! She can get everyones attention ...and then some!!.

Cant wait to hear what she has to say.

 

[meme527]

I think the main problem I'm having with this whole story, is not that her celebrity status wasn't given special treatment, NOR that she wanted it to be given special treatment. My problem with this situation is that she is making allusions of racism, with the crash comment, (even though btoh side deny that racist comments were used), and won't even speak up about it until her show starts. This is all self promotion, and deffinitely the race card being pulled. I think that racism is such a serious allegation, it should not be thrown around everytime you're snubbed. If she were correct that they would have let in Madonna, then really all she has to complain about is that she's not as high on the celebrity ladder in France as she is in the US. But since that's purely conjecture, it's really in bad taste to make that kind of statement.

i'm gonna play word shuffle with your post:

"since {this is all} purely conjecture, it's really in bad taste to make {this} kind of statement:
1.she is making allusions of racism,
2.{the Hermes incident} is all self promotion, and deffinitely the race card being pulled.
3. she wanted it to be (sic) given special treatment."

people keep contradicting themselves like in the post above, because nobody knows what happened. so anything you say is only a reflection of what you believe about oprah or about hermes or about racism or about celebrities....etc. fascinating and revealing stuff, for sure, but it has nothing to do with the facts - because no one knows what they are.
i'm just going to keep repeating this until the story comes out.

 

[travis_nw8]

am i the only one getting really fed up with this story?

 

[Assembler]

i'm gonna play word shuffle with your post:

"since {this is all} purely conjecture, it's really in bad taste to make {this} kind of statement:
1.she is making allusions of racism,
2.{the Hermes incident} is all self promotion, and deffinitely the race card being pulled.
3. she wanted it to be (sic) given special treatment."

people keep contradicting themselves like in the post above, because nobody knows what happened. so anything you say is only a reflection of what you believe about oprah or about hermes or about racism or about celebrities....etc. fascinating and revealing stuff, for sure, but it has nothing to do with the facts - because no one knows what they are.
i'm just going to keep repeating this until the story comes out.

I meant that the assumption that madonna would get in because she was white was purely conjecture. And making racial charges based on conjecture is in bad taste. I realize that a lot of what I'm saying is conjecture as well. HOWEVER, she IS making allusions of racism ("crash comment"). By saying that she won't discuss it until her show opens again is an attempt at ratings (thus the self promotion comment, though of course saying that it is ALL self promotion is incorrect, and you make a valid point there). And as for "she wanted to be given special treatment" - - She wanted to be let into a store after hours. I have explanations for my conclusions, yet her explanation so far for racism has purely been that madonna, britney spears and celine dion would have been left in. Her evidence is based on PURE conjecture. So I do see a difference.

Also, you are a fan, so naturally you aren't going to consider that Oprah might have been wrong in making that accusations the way she has (or atleast that Gale has). You were ready to denounce Hermes earlier on. So we're all even in making statements about one side or the other.

I'm not a fan of hermes, I WAS a fan of Oprah. So I'm not twisting the facts, or ignoring some facts to suit my personal view. But we are definitely free to disagree on this. Anyway, I'm so tired of this issue that this'll be my last point on it. You properly called out my lack of clarity in my post, but I do maintain that the conclusions I came up with are atleast supported by evidence that isn't entirely assumption.

 

[meme527]

when i realized there were pretty substantial bits of the story left unclear - i stopped making judgemental statements about either side (and, for the record, i said i was a fan of oprah AND a fan of hermes perfume...lol:


but! now for something completely different:

thanks to tinuviel for the penguin gif

 

[Diorling]

Hermes would have chosen Madonna not because she's white nor because she's more famous. Because she's a trendsetter, people know that Madonna is a trendsetter and if Madonna is wearing Hermes then Hermes must be a trend therefore people follow her. No one thinks Oprah is a trendsetter, she does dress immaculately but she's far from being on the cutting edge of fashion.

I can't believe no one sees that Oprah is milking this for her own benefit, why would she wait till September? So everyone can tune into her show so she can get higher ratings and more money.

 

[Luna]

^^ I kind of disagree with that a bit.

That stupid Christmas show that Oprah does each year "Oprah's Favorite Things"... after stuff airs on that show, you can't find it for at least a year in stores.

I don't really consider Madonna to be a trendsetter anymore... I dunno. Just my opinion.

 

[meme527]

I can't believe no one sees that Oprah is milking this for her own benefit, why would she wait till September? So everyone can tune into her show so she can get higher ratings and more money.

mmm, yes, just what she needs: higher ratings! more money! i am the queen, it is all MIIINNEE!

you know, maybe she, unlike everybody else, just has better things to do!

 

[modelmama]

^^ I kind of disagree with that a bit.

That stupid Christmas show that Oprah does each year "Oprah's Favorite Things"... after stuff airs on that show, you can't find it for at least a year in stores.

I don't really consider Madonna to be a trendsetter anymore... I dunno. Just my opinion.

BRAVO!!! I absolutly agree. Madonna trendsetter ? HA! - in her early years perhaps.
This day and age days. She has zero pull.

 

[hermesfreak]

From my experience it is worse in Europe than in the United States.

Nicest- The nicest employees EVER work at D&G Bal Harbour
Worst- The worst employees work at Prada Zurich

TouniqueMX:
You are soooo right....the best ever ever employees do actually work at D&G Bal Harbour...Anthony rules....also Philip at the Dolce store in vegas is amazing beyond belief...he will call you all the time to make sure you are getting what you were looking for...a true gem....I must say that the Hermes Bal Harbour folks are quite nice also....
The worst employees ever ever are at Vuitton on Bond Street in London...especially the women on the first floor.....ignorant fools that don't seem to care!!!!!

 

[Luna]

Glad we agree

 

[meme527]

re: trendsetting: three words: oprah's book club.



ps. before anyone accuses me of being an oprah worshipper, let me say that i don't like alll her selections. some of them are sentimental, badly written crap. and then again she's picked some amazing authors, among then zora neale hurston, my favorite. but, whatever i think of the entire collection -
she got people to read books! and encouraged getting together to discuss them.
like magic, book sales are up, and people are reading again,

i'd say she has a lot of pull...