Pale / Fair Skin - What are your fave products?
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I work in theatre and I often have lots of foundation on, which I really hate. Whenever I can I use none - my skin is extremely fair. I use Mineral Flowers moisturizer (composes of natural ingredients only) & SPF 50, every single day.
Dr Haushka has nice shades of foundations like ivory or beige ivory, which really ARE light.
Dr Haushka has nice shades of foundations like ivory or beige ivory, which really ARE light.
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You will laugh probably lol In winter I use SVR SPF 50 and in the summertime I use J&J SPF 50/80 for babies. It's very delicate, contains Panthenol and works great on my skin. But I know everyone is different and my friends usually cricitize me for using stuff for kids, saying it's not strong enough.
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You don't need to convince me about babies! But I guess when you go out with your child for a walk or so it's better to protect their delicate skin.
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This is quite misleading and incorrect. Avoiding the sun is the most effective way to deter aging. The chemicals in SPF sunblock are tremendous, and counterintuitive to skin aging prevention. Those of us who use completely all-natural beauty products (the kind with pronounceable, non-scientific ingredients) know this.
The best way to avoid the sun is to, well, avoid it. I never go outside without either an umbrella or a big floppy hat, sunglasses, long sleeves, jeans and closed toe shoes. And yes, it's 101° here in south Texas
When you grow up with naturally beautiful fair-skinned women like Nicole Kidman, Julian Moore and Marcia Cross as role models, avoiding the sun is effortless knowing the benefits of doing so
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Saying that's all well and good but here in the UK walking around with a parasol would just look silly - especially if you're a guy. Accompany that with a big floppy hat and...well...you can imagine the reactions you would get.
All of those women you mentioned wear sunscreen (they have said so in interviews) as well as avoiding the sun in general. Also, I can't imagine wearing jeans, long sleeves and closed toe shoes fun in high temperatures. What's the point of having beautiful, young, pale skin if you're just going to hide it? You'd might as well just have leathery skin if you're going to cover it up anyway. I personally would just try and stick to the shade. I can't imagine a little bit of sun catching my arms or legs is going to make such a drastic difference later in life.
But, that's just my opinion
Saying that's all well and good but here in the UK walking around with a parasol would just look silly - especially if you're a guy. Accompany that with a big floppy hat and...well...you can imagine the reactions you would get.
All of those women you mentioned wear sunscreen (they have said so in interviews) as well as avoiding the sun in general. Also, I can't imagine wearing jeans, long sleeves and closed toe shoes fun in high temperatures. What's the point of having beautiful, young, pale skin if you're just going to hide it? You'd might as well just have leathery skin if you're going to cover it up anyway. I personally would just try and stick to the shade. I can't imagine a little bit of sun catching my arms or legs is going to make such a drastic difference later in life.
But, that's just my opinion
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If you'd taken the time to actually read my post, you'd see that I said I never go outside without "either an umbrella or" a floppy hat, jeans, long sleeves, etc... Either. Or. That means one or the other --- not both.
So yes, I do get to show off my young, alabaster skin...it's quite apparent underneath a parasol, or a floppy hat, but most especially when -gasp- I take the hat and lightweight camisole off! Same goes for when I'm indoors, in the shade, at a restaurant, at a club/bar, in a car, or after sundown.
I'm sorry you live in a society where the judgements and opinions of others matter so greatly to you that they dictate how you live your life, what you wear and how you choose to protect yourself against skin cancer. That sucks. I'm not concerned whatsoever with what others think, because after all, it's my skin, my life, and I will do as I please. I'd rather have pale, wrinkle-free, cancer-free skin any day over freckled, splotchy, tough orange brown leather bag skin.
So yes, I do get to show off my young, alabaster skin...it's quite apparent underneath a parasol, or a floppy hat, but most especially when -gasp- I take the hat and lightweight camisole off! Same goes for when I'm indoors, in the shade, at a restaurant, at a club/bar, in a car, or after sundown.
I'm sorry you live in a society where the judgements and opinions of others matter so greatly to you that they dictate how you live your life, what you wear and how you choose to protect yourself against skin cancer. That sucks. I'm not concerned whatsoever with what others think, because after all, it's my skin, my life, and I will do as I please. I'd rather have pale, wrinkle-free, cancer-free skin any day over freckled, splotchy, tough orange brown leather bag skin.
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I meant any of the above! If you saw a guy wearing a massive floppy hat wouldn't you think it was a little strange? On women it looks amazing! But, yes the parasol thing would look a little strange here. Opening up an umbrella in the middle of a heatwave is a sure fire way to get unwanted attention!
And by show off I simply meant not hiding beneath long sleeves and jeans for fear of coming into contact with the sun for a short period of time and somehow contracting melanoma. Our skin isn't that fragile! The sun isn't in the sky with the intention of killing us. I'm not advocating lying in the sun or spending unnecessary amounts of time in the sun. But exposing your arms or legs to the sun for a 20 or so minutes a day (and in the UK where we get little or no sun throughout the year) isn't going to turn your skin texture into that of a crocodile.
If that's what you want to do then I have nothing against it! I just think it's a little unfair to say that if you don't avoid the sun under any and every means possible you'll die of cancer/prematurely age or get "leather bag skin". Then again it's also affected by climate and I imagine the sun you get in Texas is a lot more intense than here in England. Around 70-80% we spend having little or no sun.
And by show off I simply meant not hiding beneath long sleeves and jeans for fear of coming into contact with the sun for a short period of time and somehow contracting melanoma. Our skin isn't that fragile! The sun isn't in the sky with the intention of killing us. I'm not advocating lying in the sun or spending unnecessary amounts of time in the sun. But exposing your arms or legs to the sun for a 20 or so minutes a day (and in the UK where we get little or no sun throughout the year) isn't going to turn your skin texture into that of a crocodile.
If that's what you want to do then I have nothing against it! I just think it's a little unfair to say that if you don't avoid the sun under any and every means possible you'll die of cancer/prematurely age or get "leather bag skin". Then again it's also affected by climate and I imagine the sun you get in Texas is a lot more intense than here in England. Around 70-80% we spend having little or no sun.
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lol the sad thing is, the sun does kill. everyday. it's volatile, and while it provides the heat and energy our planet and its denizens require to survive, it also poses a dangerous daily threat. prolonged exposure causes heat stroke, blistering sunburns, dehydration, skin cancer, damage to our retinas, lip "cold sores", and that's just in humans. The sun is not our "friend", not "placed" in the cosmos as part of a greater scheme or any nonsense like that. It merely provides adequate heat and energy to our planet, by virtue of distance. And yes, as a matter of course, our skin is indeed quite fragile. Everyone knows that. That's why infants, newborns, children and the elderly are always covered up in the sun or have sunblock applied by caring parents.
It's precisely the attitude that "twenty minutes a day of sun is harmless" that is unfortunately so untrue. Those twenty minutes here, forty minutes there, an hour on the river here, three hours at theme park there...that add up. Sun damage is permanent damage, and sunburns -- however mild -- are the worst. Skin regenerates, constantly producing new skin cells, yes, but the surface and integrity -- meaning the elasticity, resiliency and texture-- of the skin is permanently altered on a cell structural level by daily sun exposure.
For what it's worth, I am half English, and come from a long line of English women (mother's side, of the Berkshire's). It warrants pointing out, also, that the sun's reach is not deterred by overcast, clouds or even rain. The worst sunburn I've ever gotten was from a day spent on set of a movie, cloudy, overcast, cool breeze and not a hint of sun.
It's precisely the attitude that "twenty minutes a day of sun is harmless" that is unfortunately so untrue. Those twenty minutes here, forty minutes there, an hour on the river here, three hours at theme park there...that add up. Sun damage is permanent damage, and sunburns -- however mild -- are the worst. Skin regenerates, constantly producing new skin cells, yes, but the surface and integrity -- meaning the elasticity, resiliency and texture-- of the skin is permanently altered on a cell structural level by daily sun exposure.
For what it's worth, I am half English, and come from a long line of English women (mother's side, of the Berkshire's). It warrants pointing out, also, that the sun's reach is not deterred by overcast, clouds or even rain. The worst sunburn I've ever gotten was from a day spent on set of a movie, cloudy, overcast, cool breeze and not a hint of sun.
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ugh.
First of all, the benefits of wearing sunscreen far outweigh the the dangers of using 'chemicals' on your skin. There is no evidence that the chemicals used in sunscreens cause cancer or other illnesses. There were some concerns raised over the use of retinyl palmitate, a form of vitamin A (which is also added to low fat dairy products) and oxybenzone on labatory rats but it was concluded that neither substances were toxic to lab rats or humans (source)
Secondly, 'chemicals', and by that I'll assume you mean synthetic chemicals, are not inherently bad for you nor are 'natural' i.e. naturally occurring substances, automatically good for you. I mean, Poison Ivy is natural but good luck if you decided to rub that all over your face.
Any chemical used in sunscreen that has been produced or sold in the EU, USA, Australia etc will have been approved by the FDA, EU (or other governing health body) as a safe and effective sunscreen ingredient.
If you are going to judge the safety of a substance based on how pronounceable the name of it is make sure you avoid these scientific sounding ingredients: Butyrospermum Parkii, Simmondsia Chinensis and Persea gratissima*
It's unrealistic to expect people to avoid walking in the sun and actually its not good for you. Scientists say that regular small amounts of exposure to the sun is vital for the bodies ability to produce Vitamin D, a substance which is necessary to absorb calcium and form healthy bones. This is especially important for babies and children so as to avoid Rickets. While you can take Vitamin D suplements orally there is a danger of developing hypocalcaemia and studies have also shown there are other related toxic side effects of taking supplements source
Umbrellas and clothing do not provide adequate protection from the sun. They only prevent the wearer from direct sunlight, not the ultraviolet rays reflected from the ground.
Although sunscreen ('chemical' or otherwise) does not provide 100% protection, they do significantly help to protect against the damaging effects of the sun by reducing the amount of ultraviolet reaching the skin.
Protecting yourself from developing skin cancer or other illnesses should be higher on you list of priorities than ageing. If they aren't, have a word with yourself.
I thank you, and goodnight.
*thats Shea Butter, Jojoba Oil and Avocado Oil to you and me.
First of all, the benefits of wearing sunscreen far outweigh the the dangers of using 'chemicals' on your skin. There is no evidence that the chemicals used in sunscreens cause cancer or other illnesses. There were some concerns raised over the use of retinyl palmitate, a form of vitamin A (which is also added to low fat dairy products) and oxybenzone on labatory rats but it was concluded that neither substances were toxic to lab rats or humans (source)
Secondly, 'chemicals', and by that I'll assume you mean synthetic chemicals, are not inherently bad for you nor are 'natural' i.e. naturally occurring substances, automatically good for you. I mean, Poison Ivy is natural but good luck if you decided to rub that all over your face.
Any chemical used in sunscreen that has been produced or sold in the EU, USA, Australia etc will have been approved by the FDA, EU (or other governing health body) as a safe and effective sunscreen ingredient.
If you are going to judge the safety of a substance based on how pronounceable the name of it is make sure you avoid these scientific sounding ingredients: Butyrospermum Parkii, Simmondsia Chinensis and Persea gratissima*
It's unrealistic to expect people to avoid walking in the sun and actually its not good for you. Scientists say that regular small amounts of exposure to the sun is vital for the bodies ability to produce Vitamin D, a substance which is necessary to absorb calcium and form healthy bones. This is especially important for babies and children so as to avoid Rickets. While you can take Vitamin D suplements orally there is a danger of developing hypocalcaemia and studies have also shown there are other related toxic side effects of taking supplements source
Umbrellas and clothing do not provide adequate protection from the sun. They only prevent the wearer from direct sunlight, not the ultraviolet rays reflected from the ground.
Although sunscreen ('chemical' or otherwise) does not provide 100% protection, they do significantly help to protect against the damaging effects of the sun by reducing the amount of ultraviolet reaching the skin.
Protecting yourself from developing skin cancer or other illnesses should be higher on you list of priorities than ageing. If they aren't, have a word with yourself.
I thank you, and goodnight.
*thats Shea Butter, Jojoba Oil and Avocado Oil to you and me.
so important!
Though I would still recommend wearing a hat or sitting in the shade if you're going to be outdoors for an extended period.
Honestly, it's all about being aware of how much time you spend in the sun. Even with protection.
If you're concerned about what is in your sunscreen, research the ingredients and talk to your doctor. Don't stop using it because some magazine headline said it may cause cancer. The radiation from the sun will do far more damage than the chemicals in your sunscreen ever could.
Just be sensible. Wear sunscreen, wear a hat, avoid peak hours of exposure, and go about your life.
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...and can I just say that you actually get a good amount of UV light through your clothes? You can get sunburnt by wearing no SPF and a thin cotton tee. Happened to my BF once. And he's not light and fair, he's from the mid east and he is pretty tan naturally.
Not true. I really hate the myths thrown around by 'natural' skin care users. I've found that so many companies now trade off people's willingness to believe that natural automatically equals best, see products like Garniers Minerals or any shampoo that markets itself solely off not having parabens etc
The do... or at least in the US they have quite a few different brands targeted for babies. I'm not sure about Denmark.
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