Pale / Fair Skin - What are your fave products?

[The_Ida]

Oh.

 

[diesanni]

I agree with keeping babies out of the sun at all costs, but sometimes you just can't avoid sunlight (you can get a sunburn without direct sunlight anyway). Protecting your baby (and yourself of course) is unavoidable. I use sunscreens for kids or babies on my body as well. My skin seems to agree with them so much more than the adult stuff which tends to make the skin on my back break out.

 

[laisla]

babies have to go out in the sun otherwise they will get Rickets.

 

[JillianS]

babies have to go out in the sun otherwise they will get Rickets.

They won't as long as they are getting a sufficient amount of vitamin D.
I'm not saying you should keep a baby locked away, indoors.
Just everything in moderation.
You're right, sunlight is healthy. You just have to be smart about it. Particularly with babies and those with fair skin, like ourselves.

 

[The_Ida]

babies have to go out in the sun otherwise they will get Rickets.

Babies should never be in direct sun, they get sufficient vit D even when they're not. So do grown-ups.

I remember a British teen mum being in the news because she brought her baby to the beach to go tanning...poor baby was so burned she had to me admitted to the hospital

Speaking of...the weather is so nice these days, and I really feel like I look icy white when I'm outside I wish I lived in Japan it would be appreciated

 

[cup-of-tea]

I dont want to jump into this whole Vit D/Sun thing but I live in Australia, right under the O Zone hole, we have very harsh sun and so I try to avoid it. Because of this I have a Vit D deficiency, its becoming very common in Australia. So much so that our Skin Cancer Council actually recommend a little sun without protection during safe hours.

 

[The_Ida]

Your body still produces vit D when you're wearing sun protection, so there's no reason to go without. You need less than 20 mins of sun on your face pr day to produce and adequate amount of vit D. That's what they tell us anyway. You could also just eat some fish. It's no disaster, really, and a really poor argument against wearing sunscreen.

 

[The_Ida]

BTW I've read that BB creams should be hitting the European markets really soon...it's basically a tinted moisturizer or foundation with actual SPF (hopefully) and a bunch of other stuff. They're really popular in Asia, and I think it sounds nice that you only need one product. Garnier is launching one in a not too distant future.

 

[laisla]

Your body still produces vit D when you're wearing sun protection, so there's no reason to go without. You need less than 20 mins of sun on your face pr day to produce and adequate amount of vit D. That's what they tell us anyway. You could also just eat some fish. It's no disaster, really, and a really poor argument against wearing sunscreen.

Once again you have fail to read my posts in the entirety and as a result you massively misunderstand me.

I never said babies should be in direct sunlight, Im merely against the idea that babies should be kept indoors or not allowed to come into contact with the sun at all which is what you seemed to be implying.

I would NEVER argue against wearing sunscreens. Im very much pro suncream...just look a few posts back. However as the poster from Australia said, scientists and doctors recommend that adults (Im not sure of the guidelines for children) should have regular short periods of time in the sun unprotected. This article would imply that the body struggles to produce sufficient amounts of vitamin d when wearing a high spf.

I dont see a problem with sunscreens designed for babies or young children if it offers added protection against the sun for their delicate skin but the problem is that suncream can offer people a false sense of security. However, any responsible parent would use a number of different forms of protection for their child.

anyway, we seemed to have veered off in a strange direction. Back to makeup, eh?

 

[The_Ida]

Once again you have fail to read my posts in the entirety and as a result you massively misunderstand me.

I never said babies should be in direct sunlight, Im merely against the idea that babies should be kept indoors or not allowed to come into contact with the sun at all which is what you seemed to be implying.

I would NEVER argue against wearing sunscreens. Im very much pro suncream...just look a few posts back. However as the poster from Australia said, scientists and doctors recommend that adults (Im not sure of the guidelines for children) should have regular short periods of time in the sun unprotected. This article would imply that the body struggles to produce sufficient amounts of vitamin d when wearing a high spf.

I'm sorry, that wasn't directed at you...I've just seen it a million times, and honestly...eat fish and the vit D deficiency is gone, it's not that big a deal. It's also not necessary to wear SPF 50 everyday even in Oz. I make do with SPF 20, never had a burn in my life, no matter where I've been. And theoretically I should burn pretty easily.

anyway, we seemed to have veered off in a strange direction. Back to makeup, eh?

Yes!

Am I the only one having trouble balancing how much stuff you put on your face? Sometimes I'm a grease fest because I put on moisturizer and SPF. But if I don't wear moisturizer then I'm dry as a bone. It annoys me to no end. I can only imagine how annoying it must be to then have to apply foundation on top of that The BB cream is sounding better and better

 

[tigerrouge]

And then there are always the reports that no-one properly applies their sunscreen in comparison to scientific testing conditions, so people might think they are getting SPF50 protection from a product, but in terms of actual performance, what they end up wearing is closer to SPF15.
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[The_Ida]

SPF 15 is actually sufficient in most of Europe...but I'm really getting tired of applying so much stuff to my face and body.

 

[JillianS]

BTW I've read that BB creams should be hitting the European markets really soon...it's basically a tinted moisturizer or foundation with actual SPF (hopefully) and a bunch of other stuff. They're really popular in Asia, and I think it sounds nice that you only need one product. Garnier is launching one in a not too distant future.

That's great news!
I've been really curious about BB creams.

 

[tifa]

Am I the only one having trouble balancing how much stuff you put on your face? Sometimes I'm a grease fest because I put on moisturizer and SPF. But if I don't wear moisturizer then I'm dry as a bone. It annoys me to no end. I can only imagine how annoying it must be to then have to apply foundation on top of that The BB cream is sounding better and better

I am completely the same. So many products. I don't need a full coverage foundation in the warmer months, so hopefully the BB creams launching will be good. I've heard a lot of the Asian ones are weirdly grey toned and don't sit well on the skin

 

[Lela London]

I loooooove Make Up For Ever's high def foundation in the palest shade. So much coverage, a little bit goes sooo far (especially mixed with moisturiser). C'est perfecto!

 

[BonjourTristesse]

I've read this thread and I've been meaning to reply for a while but never found time...
Ok: I have quite pale skin and I use SPF 20 every day. I've done so since I was 16 - I didn't know "better" back then...
I get a "you look like a ghost" about 3-4 times a year and it bothers me... just because of the ignorance - but I'm sure most of you girls have heard something like that before.
What I wanted to say is, that I noticed that some girls in this thread IN MY very humble opinion might take it a little too far when it comes to sun protection. Even though I think sun protection is important, I do not want to treat the sun as an "enemy" or something scary... I actually enjoy being in the sun and could never bother to wear a hat everytime the sun shines just because I might get a little tan. I do not get a tan - because of my sunscreen... As much as I find pale skin attractive on some girls, I understand why others like to be tan. Not crazy tan, but I understand why some people associate happiness with being tan! I'm sorry if I'm getting a little off-topic but I really felt like saying that.

In my opinion being careful and respectful of the sun is important, yes. But I don't think you should worry every time you step outside your door. It just sounds to me like some girls in this thread feel like that. I think I'll be happy that I'll have less spots and wrinkles when i'm older, but since I never know when my life will end, I'm certainly not going to cover behind a scarf/hat or hide in the shadow when it's summer and everyone's outside and on the beach.

 

[JillianS]

Does anyone know anything about Missha BB creams? I found out they ship to the US!
http://www.misshaus.com/pageControl.php?page=BB
And they have waaay too many choices!

In my opinion being careful and respectful of the sun is important, yes. But I don't think you should worry every time you step outside your door. It just sounds to me like some girls in this thread feel like that. I think I'll be happy that I'll have less spots and wrinkles when i'm older, but since I never know when my life will end, I'm certainly not going to cover behind a scarf/hat or hide in the shadow when it's summer and everyone's outside and on the beach.

I take sun exposure very seriously because I had melanoma (skin cancer) a couple years ago when I was only 23.
If you are as fair as I am and freckle in the sun then you MUST wear sunscreen before going outside.
I know that it may seem like a nuisance, but all it takes is one occasion for a random UV ray to trigger the melanocytes in your skin to mutate.
Do I stop living my life and having fun? No. I just have to make some adjustments.
I can go to the beach and play in the sun, but it is imperative that I wear a rash guard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rash_guard) in the water and SPF60 at the very least. I don't think that's so bad, considering the alternative.Besides, there are some pretty fabulous hats and cover-ups out there this summer.

I think it would be absolutely foolish for any fair skinned person to not take precautions against UV rays.
Of course, it is your health and your body. I just feel it would be a disservice for me to not compel you to think otherwise, considering my history.

 

[JillianS]

none of the Missha creams seem to even be pale enough for me

 

[Mindbear]

Skin cancer at 23, dear god, I'm glad you recovered, that is a big lesson to people who are so careless about their health regarding sun exposure. You must be extremely brave having coped with that at such a young age...

 

[BonjourTristesse]

Jillian, I'm very sorry you had to go through this! I hope you are okay now.
If you have experienced something like that, of course you'll be extra careful with sunscreen. I admire that you're so positive! I hope this doesn't sound patronizing. I really mean it.

Does anyone here know good self tanners or bronzers for pale skin? I have a blue-ish/pink undertone (rather cool). I love this thread... Thank god there's more people who are pale and embrace it... gives me some confidence!