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You're welcome softgrey :flower:

I can't believe this story :( . They really haven't given Patrick a chance. I have heard nothing but good reviews of his designs-what more do these people want from him. :unsure:
 
thx atelier...i completely missed that... :huh:

i can't believe they want it even more mainstream than it already is... :rolleyes:
 
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WHAT!!!!... ...they cancelled the show!!!??!?!.................that's huge....hasn't the stuff been selling?!...i thought everbody loved it....and if it's not selling..that's probably because nothing is....and the contemporary market is completely oversaturated...

they should let him go more high end....the perry ellis brand could take over the american fashion scene...it still has a lot of prestige asssociated with it...and everyone is really rooting for patrick so he'd get a lot of editorial exposure...

i so agree with softgrey, stylegurrl & purechris,
it was such a FRESH and commercial collection,
:blink: what's wrong with these people :angry:
 
i'm sorry...but given the success of lines like marc jacobs (and the myriad of off-shoots like everything in stores like forever 21 and others)...why would a look similar to marc be bad...is lauren ralph lauren a whirlwind success in middle america or something?
 
Originally posted by mikeijames@Jun 17th, 2004 - 7:55 pm
i'm sorry...but given the success of lines like marc jacobs (and the myriad of off-shoots like everything in stores like forever 21 and others)...why would a look similar to marc be bad...is lauren ralph lauren a whirlwind success in middle america or something?
YES!!!... it is!!!...and there's not much competition for that market...EVERYONE is trying to be like marc jacobs and they are all going to wind up putting each other out of business because there aren't enough customers to go around...
 
:( Damn shame these folks only, only want instant money!! let the boy do his
Thing like SG said. I say keep the direction its going in yet dummy up the line with more volume pieces
Ala plain *** denim, shirts, baby polo's, cardigans, t-shirts blah, blah,ect. Almost two lines in one.
Then they will make that 100m into 200m. They want a branded line, give em one Patrick.Then use that street cred you built up and get new backing for your stuff!!!!
 
He's out of there. From today's WWD.

Tuesday November 30, 2004
Perry Ellis Turmoil: Doubts Over Women’s as Robinson Quits

By Eric Wilson

NEW YORK — In the latest twist to the saga of Perry Ellis as a sportswear label, design consultant Patrick Robinson resigned his position Monday after a tumultuous clash with management over stylistic direction.

Robinson’s resignation raises questions over the future of Perry Ellis as a women’s wear brand and over the commitment of Public Clothing Co., its licensee, to developing the label in the better-priced market. There was speculation Monday that the better line might have been shuttered. Wendy Chivian, who had been president of the Perry Ellis division at Public Clothing, has left to take a similar position at Sean John (see related story this page).

Officials at both Perry Ellis International and Public Clothing could not be reached for comment Monday.

Wendy Chivian, who had been president of the Perry Ellis division at Public Clothing, has left to take a similar position at Sean John (see related story,Wendy Chivian Exits Perry Ellis, Joins Sean John).

Officials at both Perry Ellis International and Public Clothing could not be reached for comment Monday.

Robinson is said to be jumping to a Paris-based design house, possibly one of the Puig-owned labels. He said he had quit the job at PEI — where he was officially a consultant since the day after his last collection was shown in September — and that he had accepted another position, but would not reveal where. One possibility would be Paco Rabanne, where sources familiar with the company have indicated the Puig-owned company might be looking to make a creative change.

Mario Grauso, president of Carolina Herrera, added oversight of Puig’s other fashion concerns, Nina Ricci and Rabanne, last month. Rosemary Rodriguez was passed the design baton from designer-cum-futurist Rabanne himself during the Paris collections in October.

“This has been a fantastic opportunity for me,” Robinson said. “It’s reestablished me as a designer and doing that with as wonderful a brand as Perry Ellis has been phenomenal. But I don’t think I’ve ever gotten along with the suits.

“I’m really thrilled to have had the chance to design for Perry Ellis,” Robinson said. “That’s from the heart. What I knew and found out about Perry Ellis the person has been fascinating. For that last three seasons, what I’ve been able to learn has just been phenomenal. I accomplished a great deal just by coming here, helping to reestablish the women’s brand as an important player in the retail market.”

Robinson, in his own career revival, first became connected to the Perry Ellis brand two years ago as the designer of a women’s collection for the better market, licensed to Public Clothing.

Although the image of the label had become more traditional since the days when Marc Jacobs designed there in the mid-Nineties, Robinson delivered a fresh take with mismatched tweed separates that resonated with editors and high-end retailers, but not necessarily the management of the licensee or the company that owns the Perry Ellis name.

Robinson complained that his early work for Public was watered down by the manufacturer for mass consumption at department stores, even though he suspected there would be a customer willing to pay higher prices for his designs. In September, after months of difficult negotiations between the designer and the two companies, Robinson showed his third collection for Perry Ellis to rave reviews, but the ongoing dispute meant the line was never intended to be produced.

But Robinson’s gamble — showing the line anyway — paid off, as Barneys New York, Saks Fifth Avenue, Bergdorf Goodman and Neiman Marcus all demanded to carry it, pressuring PEI to resolve its differences with Robinson. He then became a consultant to PEI, which would produce the runway collection separately, while Public Clothing decided to go on its own with the better sportswear.

Robinson said he had not yet discussed with those retailers his plan to leave Perry Ellis on Monday.
 
I saw some of this at Harvey Nichols recently & I thought it was pretty bad - one (very small) step up from Gap. Not that I think Gap is so bad it is good enough for basics.....
 
Sad that they couldn't get along and turn it around. GOOD for him to leave for another position that will recognize his talent.

Thx for the update Atalier :flower:
 
thank you so much for posting this atelier...

so he's moving to paris?...who's at nina ricci again?...weren't they doing a good job if i remember correctly...?

rosemary rodriguez at rabanne was very up down...some amazing and some just odd...

damn!...these fashion houses sure have revolving doors these days...!
i guess this is what it's going to be like now that big corporations own the houses and designer's aren't working under their own names as much anymore...

the ever evolving world of high fashion... :rolleyes: :lol:
 
bump...does anyone have any info regarding where patrick robinson is going?... :flower:
 
from wwd...

“We’re very disappointed,” said Robert Burke, senior vice president of fashion and p.r. at Bergdorf Goodman, which was planning to host a launch party for the line during the February fashion week. “We were excited about the collection and thought it had an original point of view. It’s a shame when there are so many American houses and we see one is not being revitalized to its furthest extent.”
Joan Kaner, senior vice president and fashion director of Neiman Marcus, said the store had invested in Robinson’s talent, despite the price point of the collection, which was lower than most of the designer brands carried by the store.
Kaner had mixed emotions over Robinson’s decision to leave, but said, “If they weren’t going to do what he wanted them to do, which was upgrade the collection, I think he was right to leave.”
 
how did I miss this?!!!!! Am so sad. Sorry to hear that you didn't like Helena. I still love but agree that seeing it on runway and seeing it in person is different. Either way I love how he revitalized the label. People at perry ellis are crazy, even if robinson just got them better brand recognition in the fashion world. Oh well. Am curious to know where he would go. Rabanne would be very interesting.
 

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