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Phoebe Philo - Designer

:-) reading your comment i went to check my email thinking what did she do now lol

but let's be fair it's a chic T-shirt dress in cream cotton boucle towelling ...she was never precious about things as her big fans try to make of her.
close up its not even that towel like..... with its Lycra-plated stretch fabric. more brands have use this like chanel
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she pictured a woman doing the splits cheeks out in heels come the plastic red bags the oxidized jeans effect ala diesel the adv logo tee´s etc etc

this dress i very safe safer than its title lol

I still see a towel with sleeves.
 
Guys, lets face it, this never happened and it never will. We all bought something from the first drop because it was SO HYOED UP. Then we got it delivered, we tried it on and then we returned it all.
And that’s the short and long of it.
Sorry, but not sorry
Never returned my stuff…
Same sizing as her Celine.
 
Never returned my stuff…
Same sizing as her Celine.
Happy it worked out for you. I didnt return mine because of the sizes, if that was the only issue. In person it felt not worth the price, and especially as I have so much unworn Céline still in my closet. Her new “drops” did not bring anything new to the conversation, not my wardrobe. But happy you kept yours. Good to hear that. Especially think people kept the sunglasses .
 
Happy it worked out for you. I didnt return mine because of the sizes, if that was the only issue. In person it felt not worth the price, and especially as I have so much unworn Céline still in my closet. Her new “drops” did not bring anything new to the conversation, not my wardrobe. But happy you kept yours. Good to hear that. Especially think people kept the sunglasses .
I can understand that. I bought pieces from the first drop ever and while I love everything that has been released since, the pieces that I really adore were the more maybe « out there » ones that wouldn’t make sense in my lifestyle. And yes indeed, because I still have my Celine stuff and that a lot of her new line is for now a continuation of her last few years at Celine, I don’t have urgent desire to get things.
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I have those 3 looks that I love for example and that I’m waiting to try at Galerie Lafayette before deciding. The first one is just a shirt and some jeans with a zip in the back. The color combination is very reminiscent of her last show at Celine but the pieces are really practical and I haven’t found the same shade of pink elsewhere. I can probably find a cheaper shirt at the menswear section of a brand like Gant or Ralph Lauren but the cut wouldn’t be the same.
I love the long dress but it wouldn’t be reasonable. It’s the kind of dress you only buy when you live in Beverly Hills or Doha. You wear it two times and it’s done (one without a belt and the other time with one). It’s the type of dress to try at the store and forget about.

I’m obsessed with the last look, particularly that bomber of course but in the next drop, there’s a version in cognac/burgundy that I find fabulous.
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But yes, I think that for now, Phoebe Philo is probably more interesting for people who discovered her during her hiatus. The very wardrobe approach of the line with some special pieces works. But for people who owns some of her Celine and who are not part of the Quiet luxury crowd, there’s more of a need of special pieces.
I’m not going to PP for a simple cashmere sweater or a tank top for example…
 
i see just her repeat on Joan dress ( Halston & YSL etc style ) , done plenty times in her celine era

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Think also her timing was wrong. She came back on the scene when so many of her copy-cats made bug business out of copying her. So that couldn't make the sales go as desired. But again, why not have a business that doesn’t have huge sales? Why is the system created so wrongly that only applauding if you sell more each year. Kills the creativity, obviously. But having said all that, the drops/items are good but not wow/great level.
 
^ I don’t think there would ever be a great time for her to release a brand. Well, actually any time or year is and isn’t. Thanks to social media, the Celine-with-the-accent look is back in full swing thanks to the insurmountable trends that come and go. Plus a slew of designers are still hung up on her point of view I don’t think it’ll dissipate in years to come. I applaud her though for sticking to her guns. It’s honest. That’s something a lot of the copycats and referencers don’t have. They don’t know what they’re about, yet she does so good for her.
 
Think also her timing was wrong. She came back on the scene when so many of her copy-cats made bug business out of copying her. So that couldn't make the sales go as desired. But again, why not have a business that doesn’t have huge sales? Why is the system created so wrongly that only applauding if you sell more each year. Kills the creativity, obviously. But having said all that, the drops/items are good but not wow/great level.
For a modern fashion brand that wants to sell clothes are two test.
The first is staying on the market for 5 years, most often goes bankrupt during this period. The second, after 10 years you have recognizable products that provide a steady profit and you can create additional seasonal collections.
In her case, the problem is that the sales model. She chose online shop due to margin, but she dosen't understand social media. When you see this kind of price you would like to feel that is something special. The retail sales will probably help her.
 
For a modern fashion brand that wants to sell clothes are two test.
The first is staying on the market for 5 years, most often goes bankrupt during this period. The second, after 10 years you have recognizable products that provide a steady profit and you can create additional seasonal collections.
In her case, the problem is that the sales model. She chose online shop due to margin, but she dosen't understand social media. When you see this kind of price you would like to feel that is something special. The retail sales will probably help her.
100% agree. How can she choose to go 99% through her online shop, with low definition pictures, without any other digital presence ?

Look-books, digital lookbooks, might be fine for a year or two, but imho you somehow have to find confidence and prove yourself in the fashion circus, play the fashion game.
I am pretty old-school, at one moment I need to see 1) a runway show, how the clothes fit while models move, and 2) DURING a fashion week, in context and comparison with what other designers offer at the same moment, for the same season.
That's what bothered me with Alaïa off-season shows and Hedi's Celine videos: the last of confidence to show in public, in front of the press, live, and among their peers.

Has she this kind of confidence ? can she appear in the same fashion week as the other Row, BV, Alaïa, Khaite ?
 
100% agree. How can she choose to go 99% through her online shop, with low definition pictures, without any other digital presence ?

Look-books, digital lookbooks, might be fine for a year or two, but imho you somehow have to find confidence and prove yourself in the fashion circus, play the fashion game.
I am pretty old-school, at one moment I need to see 1) a runway show, how the clothes fit while models move, and 2) DURING a fashion week, in context and comparison with what other designers offer at the same moment, for the same season.
That's what bothered me with Alaïa off-season shows and Hedi's Celine videos: the last of confidence to show in public, in front of the press, live, and among their peers.

Has she this kind of confidence ? can she appear in the same fashion week as the other Row, BV, Alaïa, Khaite ?
From a margin standpoint, owning your DTC (direct-to-consumer) sales channel through a self-operated website actually gives her more control over pricing, branding, and inventory. Yes, the rollout has been gradual—but that also means she’s avoiding massive overhead and unnecessary wholesale pressures. She’s not dumping collections into markdown bins just to meet retailer timelines.

And let’s not forget the resale value of her Céline-era pieces. The demand has held strong for over a decade. That’s not nostalgia—that’s brand equity. She’s tapping into that loyalty now, and by limiting access and maintaining exclusivity.
 

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