Punk

[julien sorel]

and...i dont know how to post pictures ( im offiaclly punk oi oi oi)

but i think Johnny Thunders was the slickest of the bunch.

 

[Manuva]

^Oh, Johnny Thunders was the best. I absolutely adore him.

And as many people have said already, punk isn't about the clothing or the hair styles.

 

[Manuva]

A few pictures of Johnny Thunders:

from: glampunk.org

from: bpfallon.com

from: bobgruen.com

 

[julien sorel]

johnny thunders (the dolls) and the sex pistols and a lot of the noteable punk bands of the 70's had a HUGE influence on skateboarding fashions the last five years. professional skateboarders like ALI BOULALA and JIM GRECO serve as probably the best examples. i highly doubt these pictures will work but:

ali boulala:

photos www.skateboardermag.com

and you can click on 'team profiles' on the folowing link for a pic of greco if your inclined:
http://www.bakerskateboards.com/index2.html

 

[julien sorel]

according to legend, siouxsie sioux and sid vicious were know to wear swaztika arm bands/ shirts with swaztikas and walk around parts of town where jewish populations were prevelant...i just thought you should know.

www.strangereactions.com

www.vamp.org/Siouxsie/Images/

 

[skinny_boho]

^ they called it "provocation"

 

[Manuva]

I can't stand Sid Vicious, nor the Sex Pistols.

 

[Fawn]

johnny thunders (the dolls) and the sex pistols and a lot of the noteable punk bands of the 70's had a HUGE influence on skateboarding fashions the last five years. professional skateboarders like ALI BOULALA and JIM GRECO serve as probably the best examples. i highly doubt these pictures will work but:

ali boulala:
do not quote pics
photos www.skateboardermag.com

and you can click on 'team profiles' on the folowing link for a pic of greco if your inclined:
http://www.bakerskateboards.com/index2.html

Ohh, don't forget Tony Trujillo , whose punk sensibility is also apparent in the way he skates.

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[Fawn]

Punk Sonny & Cher?

Bebe Buell and Stiv Bators of the Dead Boys - Creem Magazine's "Couple of the Year", 1980.

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[sandybeeches]

Vintage Punk

I was watching the MSN Videos from fashion week LA, and I noticed that a couple of the designers went with a totally vintage punk kind of look. So many of my friends have been doing that, and I love it! I saw the stuff on fashion week at http://www.fashionways.com. Anyone else like this look as much as me? The videos prove how hot it can look... just gotta do it right. Check it out and lets hear what you think.

 

[Kizzume]

I've always admired a lot of punk fashion.

 

[milkeyedmender]

I can't stand Sid Vicious, nor the Sex Pistols.

i'm with you on that one, i've never really understood this admiration people have of the punk ethos, it seems to me that it never really meant anything.

 

[Fawn]

Bebe Buell and Stiv Bators of the Dead Boys - Creem Magazine's "Couple of the Year", 1980.

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pardonnez-moi!
Source: bebe-buell.com

 

[skinny_boho]

^She was so beautiful

 

[tangerine]

I think it's paradoxical, the Sex Pistols were as premeditated and formulated as the Monkees, but their lyrics, music and attitude nevertheless transcended McLaren's concept and became an authentic expression. McLaren may have laughed all the way to the bank but it was the lads who really inspired a lot of other people to form bands and speak their minds.

I don't play the "Sex Pistols vs. The Clash" game, they were both great in their own ways and I love both.

Johnny Thunders is one of the most underappreciated musicians of his generation, IMO.

 

[Jadee]

This thread is thriving

i'm with you on that one, i've never really understood this admiration people have of the punk ethos, it seems to me that it never really meant anything.

I like the DIY attitude and the political consciousness promoted by the Punk ethos. The problem is that it comes with a lot of crap but the same can be said of other music genres. (look at rap and reggae)

I can't stand Sid Vicious, nor the Sex Pistols.

They wanted to provoke a reaction. I don't think it was meant to take seriously (the nazi outfits), a bit like Madonna kissing Britney.
I like Sid Vicious, Ive always felt sorry for him. He was just a dumb kid, nowadays he'd probably be a chav , and led a sad and short life.

I think it's paradoxical, the Sex Pistols were as premeditated and formulated as the Monkees, but their lyrics, music and attitude nevertheless transcended McLaren's concept and became an authentic expression. McLaren may have laughed all the way to the bank but it was the lads who really inspired a lot of other people to form bands and speak their minds.

I don't really have the feeling they have transcended McLaren's concept at all. I don't hate the Pistols and I think they have a powerful image that still inspire people but they were just a cataclyst.But you know I say that but I still love 'God Saves The Queen' to bits.

I don't play the "Sex Pistols vs. The Clash" game, they were both great in their own ways and I love both.

I don't think there is a 'Sex Pistols vs The Clash' game but comparing the two bands on a musical and ideological level is allowed. The Sex Pistols were far from being a crap band but they are still way overrrated. For Joe Public Punk pretty much equals the Pistols and I think it's good to point out to other (better ) Punk bands.

 

[Brazilian Girl]

I like the Pistols, and I like Sid Vicious.

First of all the Sex Pistols made great music, imo.
Second of all, they really didn't care. About anything. About the media criticizng them (which was their intention anyway), about the money they were making. They cared about sending a message to young people. Of course it might've been a part of some masterplan of Malcolm, but that doesn't mean that the boys weren't genuine.

And nowadays I don't think we can really understand the impact they caused on that generation of the late 70's. It wasn't like today, when we see kids wearing what Sid used to wear on every corner. It was something completely new, and "outrageous", and provocative.

I have a CD that contains about 15 interviews with the Pistols, recorded in between 1976 and 1978 (including the infamous Bill Grundy interview!). And actually listening to what these boys had to say, it really changes your perspective. You get the feeling that they were just nice young guys, trying to have fun and do their music. And provoke, of course. Stir things up.

What many people (at that time, too) don't get is that, no matter how "planned" their behavior could've been, they weren't posing, they were genuine (maybe not 100%, but who is?). So was their attitude and their opinions.

What I think is that they all had it in them, but they were lost, kinda messed up, and Malcolm saw that in them and just pointed them to a direction.

IMO, the person who really f*cked it all up (for Sid, at least) was Nancy Spungen! *shrugs*

 

[skinny_boho]

including the infamous Bill Grundy interview!

IMO, the person who really f*cked it all up (for Sid, at least) was Nancy Spungen! *shrugs*

that's too easy to say! i don't belive that it's all Nancy's fault, it's easy to say that, as it's easy to say that Sid didn't kill her. If he was the dead one everyone would have blamed Nancy but it was Sid and so...
I don't like him much, he has been idolized for the whole tragedy, Nancy didn't die and all that stuff now he would be just an ex-junkie rockstar old and creepy as John Lydon heart: ) is right now. IMO.

 

[Brazilian Girl]

that's too easy to say! i don't belive that it's all Nancy's fault, it's easy to say that, as it's easy to say that Sid didn't kill her. If he was the dead one everyone would have blamed Nancy but it was Sid and so...
I don't like him much, he has been idolized for the whole tragedy, Nancy didn't die and all that stuff now he would be just an ex-junkie rockstar old and creepy as John Lydon heart: ) is right now. IMO.

haha I know, I was being ironic! (I had put this lol smiley instead of the shrug, but I thought it was a bit morbid, since they're both... dead and all. )
I don't care much about the whole Sid & Nancy thing because I don't think we're ever gonna know what really went on.
However, he was a different guy before he met Nancy, that's undeniable. After they got together, things just went downhill for him (as a person, and consequently as musician).

 

[skinny_boho]

However, he was a different guy before he met Nancy, that's undeniable. After they got together, things just went downhill for him (as a person, and consequently as musician).

Sure, I wasn't denying it. So I think I've misunderstood your post! Surely things went downhill but to me it wasn't all Nancy's fault beacuse she didn't forced him, she didn't put a needle into his vein as the majoristy of people wish to belive!