R.I.P. Heath Ledger

[lollicandy]

^ Yes I don't understand the outrage; its called an obituary. Notices of death/obituaries are in every paper and its not just for celebrities, the same extremely personal messages and even pictures of the deceased from private citizens are in there for the public to see. You can put a poem, a note, a photograph and some put symbols of their faith like a cross or star of david.

Don't you think that they would want to share their feelings and express their grief? What do they gain by saying absolutely nothing, ever? The clamour for a family statement would be overwhelming from the paparazzi and media.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with it and his family isn't exploiting him. Its pretty much ubiquitous throughout the USA, Canada and now I assume Australia and other parts of the world.

And re: funeral home, Frank E. Campbell's is well known for handling the funeral preparations and funerals of the rich and famous here in the States. It would almost be a complete anomaly if we all didn't expect that his body would be held there.

Heath was famous; he hung out with other famous people. They're going to be there because they were a part of his life. No point in cutting them out now is there? And who's to deny condolences from someone if they are heartfelt? Surely all his fans and those who loved his performances never met him or knew him, maybe not even all the actors in Hollywood but why shouldn't they feel sad?

It just feels weird because its public, unexpected and the figures surrounding him are public figures of whom people have strong opinions.

And Britney...I'm concerned about that horrible British accent she's got going on.

 

[SiennaInLondon]

Amen to the last bit at least. I don't know. I just feel I know too much.

BUT

Maybe the problem is TFS itself.

Oh now we are getting metaphysical

 

[smartarse]

I have a friend who lives in Heath's old Brooklyn neighborhood , he'd often run into him in the neighborhood coffee shop in Carroll Gardens-Brooklyn. He told me, he often hung with the other guys outside the coffee shop and smoke with them. Always says hi to my friend and other customers. He was like any other neighborhood locals...very down to earth, humble, no where near flashy. He'd often saw him, Michelle and Matilda at the park like any other young family. After telling me this he got teary-eyed... (he's in his early 50's, a teddy bear of a man. to see a man like him break down , talking about his former neighbor, Heath, it's heartbreaking.)

... kinda give you a good prospective of what kind of a guy Heath was

....

A Knight's Tale is my favorite Heath Ledger movie. I must've watched it at least 5 times since it's been released on DVD. Followed by Casanova. I've always wanted to see Four Feathers but never got around to do it. Perhaps, I will now. I think he works best in these kind of period pieces. But the word is, his Joker in Dark Night is his best.

 

[Fabulyss]

^ True. Here in the local paper they talk of what the person did for a living, their intrests and surviving family.
If you pay for the spot you can write your own. Some do really lovely poems.

Isn't odd people are feeling it's too much info....
when all this info we shouldn't know is on the news 24/7?...

^That last bit is broken logic. Just because I feel it's 'too much info' doesn't mean I agree with the rest of the rubbish on the news 24/7.

 

[smartarse]

... i think Heath should've stayed in Brooklyn after he split with Michelle. Perhaps, the old timers and young urban professional locals would've been the best dose for his mental state. IMO.

 

[DriversHigh]

did they sell the house?

 

[LUXXX]

Not only does it have a wtf factor but also has to be hard for Michelle to deal with right now......even thought they were over...still...

 

[smartarse]

did they sell the house?

few months ago was on the market. but i guess they didn't and Michelle and Matilda opted to stay...

 

[wannabemk]

i never really paid much attention to heath until now.......just the fact that his death appears to be accidental, and he was so young and talented with such a future ahead of him. it really makes me appreciate those loved ones in my life....something too many of us take for granted. im only 24 and heath was 28. way too young to go. it brings tears to my eyes everytime i think about his death. may he rest in peace. may God be with him and his family at this time.

 

[iluvjeisa]

And the MK thing, isn't it obvious what it looks like? The masseuse/maid of course knew he was dead - and she called MK to ask about doing a "clean up". Either that or she's developmentally challenged. Or there is some information that has come out that is incorrect - such as she didn't call MK 4 times and she didn't do it over a period of 30+ minutes.

 

[lostinemotion]

Well, if you have never truly been in a place where there are no other options, you can't judge.
I was always one of those girls that would say " ugh,she is so annoying and always overreacting" because of this or that.
Then one day, I fell in in a NYC subway.I actually took myself to the emergency room, convinced my 25 year old self was having a heart attack. I had an over whelming outer body feeling. The doctor asked me what I thought was wrong and I told him, that I am sure my lung collapsed because I am dizzy, feeling out of my body and can't control this fear of death feeling, like I am not in control.
It took me 4 more "emergency" visits to believe that I actually had a panic and anxiety disorder.
Yes, exercise, healthy diet, rest and positive thoughts healed me, but i am telling you, seriously, if I did not have the medication to re-balance me, I would have jumped off of a building.
I remember forcing myself to put zoloft in my system and feeling so bad about it. Before I knew it, I was feeling better and will never EVER ever EVER judge another person, the way I did before. I eventually weaned myself off of it.
If you have never had the feeling of anxiety you can't judge. It's not something that can be explained. I feel awful that my own sister went through it and I didn't believe her!
People are over prescribed, but some people, really do need it. I am not "crazy" "dark" or "depressive" and it happened to me.

 

[LUXXX]

And the MK thing, isn't it obvious what it looks like? The masseuse of course knew he was dead - and she called MK to ask about doing a "clean up". Either that or she's developmentally challenged. Or there is some information that has come out that is incorrect - such as she didn't call MK 4 times and she didn't do it over a period of 30+ minutes.

That's what a lot of news shows are saying today...and I don't mean entertainment shows......I didn't even think about that!

I know they're saying right now that they won't question MK but depending on what comes back on those results from the examiner's office...she may be questioned about her involvement in those phone calls. They f*cked up...

 

[eternitygoddess]

^I agree some people do need it, but it has become increasingly hard to differentiate between the people who genuinely need prescription, and the people who are just overdiagnosed.

 

[SiennaInLondon]

^ Agreed.

 

[Babypink920]

I don't think she called mary-kate to ask about advice in regards to a 'clean up' I mean . .toxicology results would eventually be released anyway, so what is the point of that?

 

[inhirnamy137]

They mean going home because he is being buried in Australia.

Yeah I know,but it's sort of bittersweet because of the way he is going home

 

[julesrules815]

^Ah ok, I guess I misunderstood your smiley.

 

[iluvjeisa]

^^^It's possible that the police investigation that would ensue after street med discovery, would mean that all evidence should be destroyed. And then there's the possibility that a lot of it was left and the investigation would reach another level.

 

[LUXXX]

I'm just not entirely sure the "masseuse" was experienced enough for any sort of clean-up...and MK's goons weren't even allowed into this room in time...it didn't go smoothly, whatever they were talking about doing.

Still if substances do turn up that weren't in the apartment...they may look further into it, or leave it alone.

 

[Fabulyss]

Well, if you have never truly been in a place where there are no other options, you can't judge.
I was always one of those girls that would say " ugh,she is so annoying and always overreacting" because of this or that.
Then one day, I fell in in a NYC subway.I actually took myself to the emergency room, convinced my 25 year old self was having a heart attack. I had an over whelming outer body feeling. The doctor asked me what I thought was wrong and I told him, that I am sure my lung collapsed because I am dizzy, feeling out of my body and can't control this fear of death feeling, like I am not in control.
It took me 4 more "emergency" visits to believe that I actually had a panic and anxiety disorder.
Yes, exercise, healthy diet, rest and positive thoughts healed me, but i am telling you, seriously, if I did not have the medication to re-balance me, I would have jumped off of a building.
I remember forcing myself to put zoloft in my system and feeling so bad about it. Before I knew it, I was feeling better and will never EVER ever EVER judge another person, the way I did before. I eventually weaned myself off of it.
If you have never had the feeling of anxiety you can't judge. It's not something that can be explained. I feel awful that my own sister went through it and I didn't believe her!
People are over prescribed, but some people, really do need it. I am not "crazy" "dark" or "depressive" and it happened to me.

Just so you know I have panic disorder too!! You're not alone! Only I never really took meds for it. For me it's just something I have to deal with and get used to.