R.I.P. Heath Ledger

[DriversHigh]

that was awfully fast..

ontd

 

[LUXXX]

The already practically showed the entire thing tonight...so they really didn't respect anyone...fools...

 

[fourboltmain]

why couldn't this come out before he died.

Same reason the thread exploded after he died. That's the sad reality of it. I don't give a damn a celebrities, I didn't even know who he was before this, but c'mon, people need to mourn. Don't throw gas on the fire by watching all this.

 

[smartarse]

whats amazing is how he was able to keep it under wraps up until he died - of course everyone in the biz knew but to the public he was a good boy

his was a quiet struggle. but a good number of people knew. and this video just add salt to injury. unfortunately, it's rather late , now is it?

 

[smartarse]

... i knew it was just a matter of time something like this is going to pop up

 

[SiennaInLondon]

*sigh*

To humanity.

 

[smartarse]

why couldn't this come out before he died.

because he wasnt over the top about it , like the Amy Winos, Renfros, Doughterys , the LiLos...

 

[smartarse]

i'm really surprised ET's been pressing hard about Heath's death and the dark side of it. They wouldve been the last entertainment show i'd thought would be so tabloid-esque.

 

[lostinemotion]

everyone has a dark side.

 

[iluvjeisa]

Same reason the thread exploded after he died. That's the sad reality of it. I don't give a damn a celebrities, I didn't even know who he was before this, but c'mon, people need to mourn. Don't throw gas on the fire by watching all this.

He's dead. Perhaps it would be a good thing for everyone to face the truth.

As far as for surprising - men aren't interested in gossip, in general, and girls are only interested in picking on girls. That's why the girls get thrown into rehab and the guys die or get into very serious trouble.

This should be talked about. But that tape is in poor taste. We just need the autopsy report.

I also have to say that he seems really nice in that tape. Not just an artistic loss, this.

 

[SiennaInLondon]

because he wasnt over the top about it , like the Amy Winos, Renfros, Doughterys , the LiLos...

I kind of resent Brad Renfro's name being dragged in the muck along with those three. I think when your mom does it and you are essentially a baby who does it, life is stacked against you. There is no middle class excess in that story. Just of small town life and a lack of education. I am more inclined to put Heath in that bracket there. MTV has an interesting article on why nobody did anything about Brad and Heath. The pretty compelling theory is that they weren't starlets, they were male:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1580544/20080129/index.jhtml

 

[SiennaInLondon]

As far as for surprising - men aren't interested in gossip, in general, and girls are only interested in picking on girls. That's why the girls get thrown into rehab and the guys die or get into very serious trouble.

I also have to say that he seems really nice in that tape. Not just an artistic loss, this.

That's true too. Although I never got nice vibes off him. Not horrible ones either. Just neither way.

 

[SiennaInLondon]

So we are in part to blame? The people who care too much about the clothes. According to that MTV article. Horrible.

 

[iluvjeisa]

^What? Women like to pick on other women, and in particular, read about the flaws of women who get all the attention. Men are above it all and think that it's somehow brain dead to gossip - as opposed to the rocket science of baseball, needless to say.

 

[SiennaInLondon]

Or try to become them. Women want to be other women. So they dress like other women. I knew I was to blame somewhere along the line! If not for watching the body bag tape, then for something. I feel some sense of guilt somewhere. Although maybe men are to blame. Women are commodified which in some ways puts them on a pedestal of expectation. Men can do what they want. Who knows.

 

[DriversHigh]

Quite honestly, and I know I'll get flack for saying this, but I'll say it anyway, everyone who has at some point picked up a copy of US magazine, watched shows like Entertainment Tonight and speculated about the lives of the rich and famous, as we're doing now, is partly responsible for the indirect effects that lead these public figures to the brink. Whether them being male or female is inconsequential. With this in mind, it was incredibly upsetting to hear people say things like "Enough of Heath Ledger there are more important things in the world!" and "I'm over it!". Now that he's dead and we've had the pleasure and enjoyment of living vicariously through someone else's life we're done with them? Come on. The profits that photogs and journalists earn from people like us are what drives them to intrude into the lives of these people. Would Britney Spears be losing her mind, if in addition to her drug addiction, she wasn't being followed her every waking second? That's who's really to blame.

 

[*Bianca*]

'

Entertainment Tonight' pulls Heath Ledger party video after PR firm applies pressure

Jan 30, 2008, 10:03 PM | by Hollywood Insider
Categories: Movie Biz, TV Biz

In response to industry pressures, Entertainment Tonight and The Insider have pulled a planned segment on the late Heath Ledger, according to a spokesperson for the shows. Celebrity PR firm ID Public Relations had released a statement on Wednesday, condemning the Paramount-produced TV shows for planning a segment that was to feature a video of Ledger allegedly under the influence. IDPR, which has represented Ledger, contends that ET "purchased [the two-year old video] for a large sum of money in the hopes of stirring up a salacious and exploitive story about Heath, which would win them big ratings on the first day of sweeps." Reps for ET had no further comment.

When contacted by EW.com before ET announced it would not air the video, ID partner Mara Buxbaum explained via e-mail that "those who knew Heath know he was a kind-hearted, immensely talented artist, and a devoted father. He tried to live his life quietly and with humility. Certain media outlets' attempts to exploit and profit from his death is shameful and in the poorest of taste. We implore the media and the public to let this grieving family bury their son in private and with dignity."
In its statement, ID included the e-mail addresses and office numbers of ET executive producer Linda Bell Blue and Paramount executive Brad Bessey in an effort to "pressure" the shows to pull the planned segment, which was due to air tomorrow. Although ID represents a raft of A-list talent, including Jake Gyllenhaal, Ellen Page, and Ben Stiller, Buxbaum would not comment on whether that pressure might have also included a boycott of the show. —Adam B. Vary

-hollywoodinsider

 

[SiennaInLondon]

Quite honestly, and I know I'll get flack for saying this...

Agreed. I feel incredibly sordid after these deaths. And so I should. And it is called capitalism and the modern world. A general umbrella term for everything your described and more.

 

[XxpinktinksxX]

I don't agree with the video being shown

 

[SiennaInLondon]

You know what, if I died, and I did stuff that was video gold, I would want it to be shown. Firstly my family know (eventually) all the things I do right or wrong. So they wouldn't be surprised. Secondly I have a horrible fear of people not knowing who I was. I want the bad and the good. I would like as true a sketch of me as possible. Not some idealised form. So in some ways, I don't see the problem (though obviously I understand everyone else's points). His daughter is going to grow up knowing he loved her. And once she understands what human beings are, she'll know he erred and wasn't any different for it. So yes. Drug culture (can I say that) is the problem, not individuals who are obviously discrete about it. He wasn't Pete Doherty you know, glamorousing it. He only glamourised parenthood and success and whatever his fans (of whom I am not one) adored. So by saying 'oh this is terrible' I kind of feel like we are not being true to the man. We shouldn't be scandalised by it. Why make him some pariah? We should be lobbying governments. Even if it is about prescription meds.

Just something that struck me. I realise people will disagree. I hope they appreciate the fact that my L key is buggered for some reason and this took ages to type. How does one fix an L key? I need some sleep.