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Simple economics and social/cultural politics

white dominance within general population = white representation, hence the overwhelming amount of white models on covers. Thats the demographic for Vogue, white middle class woman; with variations of fashion savvy heterosexual man and homosexual fans.

Shulman seems to be neglecting ethnic miniorities within the pages of British Vogue in particular, there is rarely any Black presence in the magazine in itself; even editorially, the last black woman was Noami in August 2004 (and that was based upon tremendous tabloid intrest following Piers Morgan exposing Campbell of attending Rehabilitation meetings - the feature was entitled "Scoop").

The fundamentall problem is the reluctance to embrace beauty as beauty; an objective physical characteristic and shunning economic implications (so maybe a black girl wont sell as well) in favour of fair representation and what fits the mold at that time.

Jennifer Hudson and Chanel Iman have been featured on Vogue this year in America, but thats only based upon Andre Leon Talley interest in both parties, would they have been included if there wasnt an African-American editor internally within the Vogue Team? No.

Racial Equality should be prevalent even within the mass media - the entertainment industry is notoriously tough on ethnic minorities and blacks, and this whole notion has to be eradicated.

Put Chanel on a cover. Put Hye on a cover. Put Joy Bryant or Kerry Washington if you must favour actresses.

We live in a diverse world. Its about time we see this realised in print, too.
 
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There are many beautiful 'black' (seriously I hate this word but I can't think of anything better, brainwashed)

Why do you hate it? I'm black and I don't have a problem with it at all. I'm not African-American because I'm from the U.S, not Africa, so I don't find anything wrong with it.^_^

And Naomi has the ego the size of Donald Trump's. The reason they don't put her on magazines anymore is because of her childish behavior, she looks older than her age, and she was over 47 years ago. And it's not just her that needs to leave the fashion biz, it's all those girls from the 'supermodel' period (Naomi, KATE :rolleyes:, Linda, etc.). And black models aren't on covers or hardly in magazines because they're are hardly any good black models out there. You have to have a look that appeals to many faces, not just people like us on tFS. And the only faces I see like that these days are Jordan Dunn & Chanel Iman (somewhat). And they are hardly doing anything. Sorry if I didn't make sense and if I got off topic, this was just the stuff that was in my wierd head.:blush:
 
Noami by Corrine Day in August 2004:
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By Mario Testino in Feb 2001:
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Jan 1998: Noami by Regan Cameron (she won this over Kate Winslet)

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June 1996: by Robert Erdmann

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Notice the years in between Noami's covers: hence my referal to proportional representation
 
I don't think you came across as harsh, but I really don't understand why you'd think she thinks one race is better than the other. She said "equal prominence" not "more prominence". Totally agree about Vogue's...patheticness, I'll put it.

I don't think she thinks her race is better. I don't think that at all. :oIt's how she said it. Yes, she mentions "equal prominence", but at the same time she did say not enough "blacks" in Vogue. IMO* If she says "equal prominence" concerning ethnic groups of models, why just catogorize it to say one particular race, "not enough blacks"? TO ME, I felt she should have added more mixes to her argument and mention some other ethnic backgrounds as well to back up her quote of "equal prominence". That's all I was trying to say. I would never think she favors only her race, that would be ignorance in my part. :flower:
 
Why do you hate it? I'm black and I don't have a problem with it at all. I'm not African-American because I'm from the U.S, not Africa, so I don't find anything wrong with it.

Afro-american has to do with African ancestry, not if you were born in Africa or US.


And Naomi has the ego the size of Donald Trump's. The reason they don't put her on magazines anymore is because of her childish behavior, she looks older than her age, and she was over 47 years ago.


:lol::lol:
 
if you really want to get into the whole thing about black people not getting enough exposure on the covers of vogue or lack of beauty exposure, lets not go to the fact that black people have the hardest time finding a foundation colour on high end makeup counters like Dior and Chanel...
 
Chanel Iman, Joseph, the last time i checked, she was born in 1991 and is still alive and well..
 
if you really want to get into the whole thing about black people not getting enough exposure on the covers of vogue or lack of beauty exposure, lets not go to the fact that black people have the hardest time finding a foundation colour on high end makeup counters like Dior and Chanel...

didn't Iman release a special kit for black women? there are options, it's not that complicated.
 
Afro-american has to do with African ancestry, not if you were born in Africa or US.

All I know is that all the black people I know, including myself, don't say African-American. They say black, or another choice word I can't use on this forum. That's just what I meant.:flower:
 
And Naomi has the ego the size of Donald Trump's. The reason they don't put her on magazines anymore is because of her childish behavior, she looks older than her age, and she was over 47 years ago


She's had a Vogue cover, W (she was the first black women on their cover) and a GQ cover this year. She's done eds for W and Harpers Bazaar aswell. She's NOT over!...she'll never be over. It's Naomi for god's sake :shock::heart::lol:
 
She's had a Vogue cover, W (she was the first black women on their cover) and a GQ cover this year. She's done eds for W and Harpers Bazaar aswell. She's NOT over!...she'll never be over. It's Naomi for god's sake :shock::heart::lol:


I guess you didn't read well, It was not JeanAvril the one who said that they don't put her on magazines, it's was Naomi who sad that British Vogue doesn't pay attention to her. ;)

and I agree with JeanAvril, she's over since like 1997. :p
 
eternitygoddess, what is so out of place about a model of any race wearing dior couture?

There's something jarring about seeing an Asian or some other ethnic race in a really French, marie-antoinette ballgown.
 
if you really want to get into the whole thing about black people not getting enough exposure on the covers of vogue or lack of beauty exposure, lets not go to the fact that black people have the hardest time finding a foundation colour on high end makeup counters like Dior and Chanel...


Don't artists like to use MAC for photoshoots? I have trouble believing that ANYONE can have a problem finding the right colours with MAC.
 
i think ale's point was that high-end makeup lines do not have foundation shades for women of color, not lines like mac...
chanel used to (in fact it was one of my favorite foundations), but they discontinued it...

iman said in an interview that on her first shoot for an editorial, the hair and makeup team had no clue what to do with her...
the makeup artist had a nerve to ask her if she brought her own makeup...
that was part of her inspiration for starting her line...

eternitygoddess, i guess i just don't understand what's so "jarring" about seeing a minority in a couture gown...
is it that they aren't deserving of wearing it? i think that's totally ridiculous...
do you think the same thing when you see someone like halle berry or ziyi zhang?
 
I will say that it makes me happy and sad that some of you have such an optimistic look on life. I believe, AND NO YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH ME, is that even though we all are equal, we aren't treated as such. Sure I'm human, you're human, and etc. but the way people have treated other people has developed into many different types of oppression - sexism, racism, ageism, ableism, etc. Naomi is asking for something very minimal in the huge picture of things - to use different and more diverse models. She isn't asking for people to give models of color more respect than white ones, but the same respect the white ones get.

That is why I laughed at first and that's why I agree with Naomi.
 
Awww, whatever you think about Naomi's personality, her covers are so beautiful! Maybe no one wants to work with her, but there's still so much beauty there. Thanks Eccentricity for posting those.

Thanks for clarifying Zen; I didn't get that from your post.
 
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