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That makes 25 in 33 years, that is 0.76 per year. The trend is definitely downwards.

Did you forget Brandi Quinones somewhere in there? :flower:

Some cover potential:

*US Vogue (actresses)
- Thandie Newton
- Kerry Washington
- Naomi Campbell (not an actress, but an icon nevertheless)
- Vanessa Williams (TV Actress for an award-winning show)
- Jada Pinkett

*Teen Vogue, Cosmo Girl or Seventeen
- the Black girl from High School Musical, sorry don't know her name
- Raven Symone
- Keke Palmer
- Zoe Kravitz

*UK Vogue
- Naomie Harris
- Thandie Newton (Both are Brits and big actresses)

Also Iman, Beyonce, Salma Hayek, Padma (the host of Top Chef), Liya of course.
 
i remember when there used to be a LOT more black models in eds and on covers...
especially ELLE magazine was known for this...
and it was the best selling magazine at the time!....

As I've seen, Elle and Gilles Bensimon favored several Black models. Karen Alexander, Gail O'Neill, Beverly Peele and Tyra were some of the most photographed models of any race for the magazine. Hardly an issue could be picked up without seeing one or more of them in it. Same for Stephanie Roberts in Vogue. Too bad those days are over. :sad:
 
Maybe 'white' is just 'in' nowadays.

There's never been a point when white wasn't 'in' for fashion. :huh: Name one year or season when non-whites dominated magazine covers, runway shows and ad campaigns over whites. It's impossible. :blink: Even with the inclusion of Brazilians (white-looking Brazilians, mind you) and Asians, whites still are the most visible.
 
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that this "fashion bible" is unwelcoming to anyone non-white.

if it's clear to you then why the insistence? that's what I don't understand, that obssesion with US Vogue, buy a magazine that satisfies your necessities, whatever it be.

as a Latin, I've never used any Abercrombie and Fitch t-shirt 'cause Mike Jeffries (the man behind) don't want latin people to wear his stuff, his clothes are not made for us, he even doesn't want latin people selling his clothes. he's obsessed with blonde people.

my reaction, am I going to manifest angriness? no! simply I buy other things, I also don't like Tommy Hilfiger and others that I don't remember.

why should I want latinos advertising those brands? it's like illogical, doesn't make sense. :huh::unsure:
 
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Ebony and Essence are not high fashion magazines. They aren't even fashion magazines. They feature a couple of fashion shoots, but a Black consumer would be hard pressed to find high fashion if they relegated their exposure to those magazines.

Then why does Essence.com use the terms "fashion, fashion beauty and beauty" to describe their magazine? I can't say the same for Ebony, only because I can't find much information about them on their website. You know, if I flipped through US Vogue, I'd be hard pressed to find high fashion as well (aside from advertisements). That's beside the point, though.
 
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I just realized that Vogues knows exactly how people feel about their lack of diversity. Thinking back on their Talking Back: Letters from our readers section, people always write in and complain about this. Vogues actually includes these complaints in their magazines and never do anything about it.

A few issues ago, a woman wrote in about their lack of information regarding ethnic skin and hair products.

In the September issue, a woman wrote in about a Vogue editorial with Kiera Keira Knightley that references the colonial experience in the early 20th century. An experience that is inextricably linked to EU coutries' imperialist occupation. Glorifying a relationship between Europe and East Africa that was built on racism, oppression, and violence. Keira poses with Black African kids to authenticate the Safari setting. The reader suggests they were USED as mere accessories to Keira's outfits. The reader also suggests that the text and the images objectify and dehumanize the Black Africans.


I think we should keep on letting Vogue know how we feel by emailing the Editor!


email your letters to: [email protected]
Please include a daytime phone number.
 
mellowdrama
I agree alll the way....but its a little scary when miss campbell says she wont stop modeling until black models become very popular cuz its sad to say but it may take a while and namoi has to age...at some point
 
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Then why does Essence.com use the terms "fashion, fashion beauty and beauty" to describe their magazine? I can't say the same for Ebony, only because I can't find much information about them on their website. You know, if I flipped through US Vogue, I'd be hard pressed to find high fashion as well (aside from advertisements). That's beside the point, though.


Because most women's magazines include discussion on such subjects. They'll have stuff on hair, beauty, fashion, etc but it's not a fashion magazine. A 4 page fashion spread (which rarely features high fashion) does not make a magazine a fashion publication.
 
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Because most women's magazines include discussion on such subjects. They'll have stuff on hair, beauty, fashion, etc but it's not a fashion magazine. A 4 page fashion spread (which rarely features high fashion) does not make a magazine a fashion publication.

My mother is black and most of her friends are and I dont think they have ever regarded Essence as a high fashion magazine or even a fashion magazine in general like sephia said look at any womens magazine they all claim fashion as a aspect of their magazine and most women I assume think as Vogue as the highest of fashion magazines and thats why they should feel a responsibility to show all races in a high fashion setting no matter the consumer base. Im not saying they should have a united nations in the pages every issue but there are blacks asians hispanics middle eastern etc...women they could use.^_^
 
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I have several Latin friends that are employed by Abercrombie and Fitch. It's useless to go back and forth with you. You're lacking in the intelligence department.


maybe I'm not intelligent but fortunetly I have eyes and I'm able to read


June 18, 2003
Abercrombie & Fitch Sued For Racial Discrimination
New Albany, OH-based clothing chain Abercrombie & Fitch has been charged with a discrimination lawsuit for cultivating an overwhelmingly white sales force, according to a story reported by The Associated Press. The suit, which was filed by nine Hispanic and Asian employees, claims that when the company does hire minorities, it channels them to stock room or overnight positions. The plaintiffs say that Abercrombie discriminates against blacks, Hispanics and Asians because company policy states that all sales people must exhibit an all-white "A&F look." Catalogs and other promotional materials all include models who are mostly white, according to the lawsuit. "If you look at the material they put out, they are cultivating an all-white look," said Thomas Saenz, vice president litigation at the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and one of the attorneys representing the plaintiffs. "It is difficult to understand why, given that their target age demographic is even more heavily minority than the rest of the population, they would choose to do this." Last spring, Abercrombie was accused of racial insensitivity following complaints from Asian American groups, which eventually led to the clothing manufacturer removing a line of T-shirts that showed two slant-eyed men in conical hats and the slogan "Wong Brothers Laundry Service - Two Wongs Can Make it White."

http://www.diversityonline.com/divarch/2003/june/0618-1.htm

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3835/is_200311/ai_n9311945


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In December 2005, the Claims Administrator in the Gonzalez v. Abercrombie & Fitch discrimination lawsuit settlement sent award checks to the over ten thousand class members who submitted valid claim forms in accordance with the process set forth by the Court in the April 2005 settlement order. Checks ranged in size from several hundred dollars to several thousand dollars, in proportion to Class members' damages and their contributions to the prosecution of the case. If you have moved since you submitted your claim form, it is possible that a check was mailed to your past address. Please note that the checks became void after June 15, 2006, regardless of when they are received. The Importance of Standing Up to Discrimination in the Workplace Our attorneys have prosecuted and continue to investigate large-scale employment discrimination class actions. We have represented individuals and large classes of workers and applicants against companies in retail, financial services, food & beverage, transportation, and other industries who have discriminated on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, and other grounds. If you are aware of widespread discrimination by a company anywhere in the United States, please contact us via email or by telephone at 1-800-541-7358 or 1-415-956-1000. We are available to discuss your experience with you, and, if appropriate, represent you in a discrimination case. However, there is no guarantee that we will be able to represent you. http://www.afjustice.com/
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There are thousands of Black designers in the world. You're seriously trying to tell me that Vogue can't launch not even one of their careers? This goes beyond models and covers.

what about being independent? depending of others is not the solution, if there are thousands of good black designers, tons of beautiful black models, editors, photographers..... c'mon create your own HIGH FASHION Magazine.
 
Is segregation your only suggestion? Segregation is not the key! You have the same mentality as the racists whites of the mid 1900's. I bet you support separate water fountains too, huh? Vogue is an established powerhouse. Do you really think it's that easy to compete against powerhouses and get dedicated readers to buy your new mag? They have established business relationships and dedicated readers. Segregation doesn't fix the problem within the fashion industry as a whole. However, I would like to see something new and diverse If nothing changes at Vogue.
 
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Is segregation your only suggestion? Segregation is not the key! You have the same mentality as the racists whites of the mid 1900's. I bet you support separate water fountains too, huh? Vogue is an established powerhouse. Do you really think it's that easy to compete against powerhouses and get dedicated readers to buy your new mag? They have established business relationships and dedicated readers. I would like to see something new and diverse If nothing changes at Vogue.

I suggest independence, that would be its name - INDEPENDENCE fashion magazine - the new magazine wouldn't compete with Vogue 'cause it will have its own target, people like you, me and all the ones in this thread and the world who look for a change, I would like to work in the graphic design department!

business relationships not needed 'cause you wouldn't need to meet Karl Lagerfeld, INDEPENDENCE fashion magazine would support those thousands of Black designers in the world that you mentioned, with their respective ads photographed by ..... Meisel? no! new talent!

you, Christion Couture, could be the Editor in Chief, there are a lot of black powerful and millionare people who could invest in the proyect.

let's make a change! :blush::rolleyes:B)

positivism is the key word
 
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You know, after reading this thread for a bit of fun I popped down to the local shop and flicked through the covers. I generally don't buy magazines here because the prices are outrageous. Anyhoo, New Zealand I find is dominated by 'White' European (I think that's the general grouping term). There's Maori/Pacific Islander and then a large population of Chinese in Auckland. Anyhoo I thought it was strange that over here there wasn't much variation in culture and colour. So I looked at the magazines..not a single one had any black person on, nor asian. None. I'm talking about the mainstream magazines here but, from OK to Vogue Australia, nothing. It is kind of strange when you think about it.
 
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Interesting, but I think you forgot about a few things. Do you know what state the publishing industry is in? Even the most successful magazines aren't making that much profit. Who's going to back the thousands of designers with money for distribution/manufacturing? Which stores are actually going to carry the clothes? Which advertisers are willing to advertise in a new publication with few readers to start out? How much are they going to pay? Which writers are going to work for this new publication? The cost of promoting a new magazine is going to cost what? What if the magazine doesn't break even for a year, who's going to keep it afloat? What if Vogue changes their image and starts getting diverse and edgy? Will this new magazine fold and our readers flock back to the "fashion bible?"
 
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^I wonder why that is...could it be thats what they're used to seeing(b/c of being feed them).
 
June 18, 2003
Abercrombie & Fitch Sued For Racial Discrimination
company policy states that all sales people must exhibit an all-white "A&F look" Catalogs and other promotional materials all include models who are mostly white, according to the lawsuit. "If you look at the material they put out, they are cultivating an all-white look,"


this is very interesting actually. I know somebody who's job is a 'abercrombie job scout' he goes and finds people who look a certain way to work in the amercrombie store.
now he isnt racist. and i dont believe abercrombie in racist either. the brand is based upon an wholesome young american ideal which many many of us cannot ever be, but it is something aspirational yet in a way quite attainable and perhaps that is its strongest selling point.
the stores try to reflect that ideal and if that means using staff of a certain appearance then that is what they have done.

in the same way that at a lot of 'high end' bars and restaurants, they hire good looking waitors as opose to non attractive ones.

and what is considered to be attractive and ideal is all an opinion
beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all..
 
wow, i'm having a hottentot venus flashback. i'd rather not have a cover than have that one.

Yes, if there's not Vogue-like tokenism, there's exoticism and fetishism like this to contend with. Though some might argue that fashion magazines objectify all women. I'm not going to make that argument. I like my little paper dollies. I think we should all be objectified equally.
 
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