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Love this. She was very beautiful and special.We lost Claudia and Brigitte in one year. RIP. I always admired how she wasn't afraid to voice her opinions even if they weren't politically correct. One of the last true icons.
She was a little more than simply politically incorrect.
I roll my eyes on any Louis's posts being shared here, too. Idc if he works in the industry. He's same as insufferable as rest of current bottom feeder "commentator" plague from social media that doesn't work in fashion or aren't even buyers, don't do anything meaningful related to fashion at all, like proper fashion archival work.(also can’t stand the Pisano guy! why do we keep citing him as if he was a journalist and not a well-known bottom-feeder.. he’s not breaking any news, we all knew that!)
Neither. But in this case it's irrelevant who reports it. Her behavior wasn't just relative Left-Right compliance or adherence to subjective partisan identity politics. Some of her comments were objectively wrong and cruel, regardless of the whims of shifting human politics. If some people are happy to excuse that because it ruins the fantasy, that's fine. Nobody is obligated to behave in any way they don't want to. But if we're happy with phrases like "degenerate savages" from Bardot then we should be able to use it on tFS too.also can’t stand the Pisano guy! why do we keep citing him as if he was a journalist and not a well-known bottom-feeder.. he’s not breaking any news, we all knew that!
At least they're honest.It was certainly telling to see one of her friend/supporter say on the news on the 2nd National French tv that « she was convicted for some things she said but that, we don’t care ».
Indeed…
She is an icon. A icon for Cinema, for fashion, for a certain romantistic idea of France from the 60’s/70’s and her commitment to animals rights…At least they're honest.
Thanks for this background.She is an icon. A icon for Cinema, for fashion, for a certain romantistic idea of France from the 60’s/70’s and her commitment to animals rights…
But for anyone living in France it’s impossible to not mention that because she has been linked since the 80s to the far right movement. Beyond the statement she was convicted for…A lot of statement, things she said even back around the latest elections. She was always used as a popular figure to push far rights ideas so yes, it has been part of her public persona for many decades now. Her last movie was in the 70s so obviously I’ve only known the racist animal loving woman who was an icon.
So of course, when we look at a VP editorial inspired by her aesthetic in the 60s, we love them. I think « Et Dieu Créa La Femme », « Le Mépris » and her two songs with Gainsbourg are fantastic but she made her personal and political opinions part of what became her public persona.
People don’t care and some do care.
Pisano is not the right messenger but yeah, calling black people in La Reunion « autochtones sauvages » (indigenous savages) was a reflection of who she was.
Both exaggerations. Nobody is 'happy' about what she said, it WAS cruel, nasty, unnecessary and widely reported at the time and she doubled down instead of laying low for a while, she even had time to throw victims of sexual abuse under the bus less than 2 years later.If some people are happy to excuse that because it ruins the fantasy, that's fine. Nobody is obligated to behave in any way they don't want to. But if we're happy with phrases like "degenerate savages" from Bardot then we should be able to use it on tFS too.
In this case not really because her being close to Lepen and championing their politics and ideas in the privacy of her life has no impact.Thanks for this background.
Racial supreriority and oppression are FAR from being exclusive to Right-Winged ideologies or governments. Historically, race and ethnicity have been weaponized across the political spectrum. So her political affiliation is probably the LEAST of her problems. She was a very flawed person, as are we all - not because some dumb politicians "said so", but because some ideas and behaviors are just objectively morally wrong.
I understand this comes off as VERY preachy, but I say as it someone who is just as guilty of some of these flaws. I'm not saying this because I want to assert some kind of moral dominance, but because I hate the disingenuity of hand-waving Bardot's poor behavior off because it inconveniently disrupts people's sanitized image of her. They want to retain their carefully-curated idealized memory of their favorite celebrity/model/designer/etc. We saw the EXACT same thing when Karl Lagerfeld passed. Any criticism of his objectively disgusting ideas and behavior was always dismissed as political correctness because his work had become too 'sacred'.
I remember reading about it years ago and probably blocked it out cause the idea of attempting to cause yourself a miscarriage makes me want to faint. Apparently her son sued her for sharing that, plus for comparing him with a dog?, and won. Unwanted/stressful pregnancies cause trauma in some women (reason why Diana threw herself down the stairs..), but 91 years is a long time, a truly privileged amount of opportunities to assimilate events, get professional help, turn relationships around and find peace and sounds like she instead channeled her pain towards hatred.. gays, lesbians, women, immigrants, not even the unemployed were safe! it's very telling of her self-hatred that only straight men, the one type that actually enforced physical violence on her, seems to have been spared...She reportedly punched her stomach to try to terminate her pregnancy .... her "cancerous tumour" as she literally called it. When the child was born, she abandoned him. But yeah ... save the animals. Awful on top of the racist and homophobic things she said.
Yep ! I read that and I felt so bad for him after reading it. She totally directed that hatred to everyone else except where it needed to be directed. Unfortunate.I remember reading about it years ago and probably blocked it out cause the idea of attempting to cause yourself a miscarriage makes me want to faint. Apparently her son sued her for sharing that, plus for comparing him with a dog?, and won. Unwanted/stressful pregnancies cause trauma in some women (reason why Diana threw herself down the stairs..), but 91 years is a long time, a truly privileged amount of opportunities to assimilate events, get professional help, turn relationships around and find peace and sounds like she instead channeled her pain towards hatred.. gays, lesbians, women, immigrants, not even the unemployed were safe! it's very telling of her self-hatred that only straight men, the one type that actually enforced physical violence on her, seems to have been spared...