henriette said:gawd awful. what are these women thinking?
faust: "but that's a learning curve which I think Russians are zooming through quite quickly" I don't know about that. I live in SF and the Russian women that have been here since the '80s still dress that way. I think they think its pretty.
I agree with all the points mentioned above - russians do get pissed when somebody is trying to potray them as anything but "civilized and cultured", civilized has to be their second favorite word after "propaganda" of course. The thing is Russia is still a brutal savage country. ALthough there are boomtowns like MOscow and St. Petersburg (much less so) that have gone a long way from having 3 varieties of wintercoats in shops, the majority of people in provinces live below the poverty line and are reduced to buying the vietnamese crap on the market. The percentage of people with decent disposable income who take advantage of fashion magazines, shows, boutiques etc. is very very small. There is defintetly a growing interest in Russian designers and places like Le Form and Marki do make money. HOwever if you go to the streets of moscow most of the stuff you see is, well... tacky. D&G are GODS, also Cavalli and Dsquared, Cavalli now is what Versace used to be to Russians ten years ago. Juicy Couture appeared two years ago and its a big hit now I saw a girl in a trendy restaurant wearing a pair of UGGs for the first time in moscow last weekend.stl said:Hi everyone, I am new here and I just want to share some of my opinion on this topic. I am not Russian, but I'd been living in Moscow for some time and here's what I had learned:
1) Russian people are over-sensitive when it comes to Western articles (especially American) on their culture, politics, etc.
2) Propoganda is their beloved word.
3) People in Moscow do dress up alot. Personally I think we all have our own style, someone likes comfy stuff and some need to catch everyone's attention. But in Moscow, you're either with them or you will get weird looks.
4) They are brand - obsessed, though I saw many girls on the streets with fake LV, Gucci bags.
Okay, let me think of other points.
TheFLUFFER said:The percentage of people with decent disposable income who take advantage of fashion magazines, shows, boutiques etc. is very very small. There is defintetly a growing interest in Russian designers and places like Le Form and Marki do make money. HOwever if you go to the streets of moscow most of the stuff you see is, well... tacky. D&G are GODS, also Cavalli and Dsquared, Cavalli now is what Versace used to be to Russians ten years ago. Juicy Couture appeared two years ago and its a big hit now I saw a girl in a trendy restaurant wearing a pair of UGGs for the first time in moscow last weekend.
The difference is HUGE. Only 17% of russian women buy fashion magazines (compared to 70% who do it regularly in america), there is practically no middle class in russia if you dont take in account Moscow and maybe two or three larger cities. Therefore there is no such thing as mid-range affordable shops with fashionbale clothing in the provinces, no H&M, GAP or Zara. In America or Europe most people can go in a shop and buy a top that is affordable and resembles something they saw in Vogue, it would vary in quality of course but at least they can have the "look".faust said:And this is different from the US/UK how?
TheFLUFFER said:The difference is HUGE. Only 17% of russian women buy fashion magazines (compared to 70% who do it regularly in america), there is practically no middle class in russia if you dont take in account Moscow and maybe two or three larger cities. Therefore there is no such thing as mid-range affordable shops with fashionbale clothing in the provinces, no H&M, GAP or Zara. In America or Europe most people can go in a shop and buy a top that is affordable and resembles something they saw in Vogue, it would vary in quality of course but at least they can have the "look".
TheFLUFFER said:These are the richest and allegedly the most stylish people in Russia
http://www.kto-v-chem.ru/event/ev69/page4/foto1824/detal3393.htm
http://www.kto-v-chem.ru/event/ev69/page5/foto1762/detal3392.htm