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Hey, you guys have some great drawings, but I saw that you color them in Photoshop and or Illustrator. I thought you guys might want to check out a couple of tutorials in using the burn and dodge tools in Photoshop to add depth and shadow that almost looks like airbrushing.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/2005167/
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/1509510/
Tell me if you like it.
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/2005167/
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/1509510/
Tell me if you like it.
Ooo! That may be of use to some people here. As for me, I use a different technique--and as I said, these are just quick sketches for ideas. I'm actually obsessed with shading. For some reason, I've never been a big fan of the dodge and burn tools--I like to either paint on shadings, or make a shading layer that has a lower opacity and mixes with the colors underneath. But it looks like the artists who did these tutorials do great with dodge and burn! Usually, it looks really obvious, but it looks natural with their drawings 
Here are a couple drawings with my typical shading technique:
http://www.deviantart.com/view/14719615/
http://www.deviantart.com/view/16673603/
And here's another coloring tutorial that's really helpful with Photoshop in general:
http://www.howtodrawmanga.com/tutorial/tutorial.html
Y'know, maybe we should start a thread that's got questions, answers, and discoveries on computer drawing. I think that'd be really helpful, since it's something that a lot of people want to know more about. I know I could use some bits of wisdom concerning Illustrator.
Here are a couple drawings with my typical shading technique:
http://www.deviantart.com/view/14719615/
http://www.deviantart.com/view/16673603/
And here's another coloring tutorial that's really helpful with Photoshop in general:
http://www.howtodrawmanga.com/tutorial/tutorial.html
Y'know, maybe we should start a thread that's got questions, answers, and discoveries on computer drawing. I think that'd be really helpful, since it's something that a lot of people want to know more about. I know I could use some bits of wisdom concerning Illustrator.
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Tentopet, I love your work. I just got Adopbe CS and I need to learn Photoshop. Hope you dont mind a few questions in the future regarding the program. Your sketches have a similar feel to mine in terms of the cleaness and flat color. You can see some of my better stuff in LookBook forum. Keep up the good work. Also you may want to learn a little about construction lines ( sewing lines) if plan to bring these to life. But it dopes not matter the art and designs are great! kepp it up. I look
forward to seeing more!!
forward to seeing more!!
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Love your work Tentopet! Holy hell, you don't really need to learn much from Illustrator because you already got one hell of a grasp on Photoshop. Excellent deviations, I've learn a lot from DevArt, I'd suggest keep looking up tutorials. And any book by Deke McClellan (I think that's his name) is like a Bible for Adobe programs, check those out.
Clay: By all means, ask me questions!! I actually really enjoy answering stuff--I graduated with a teaching degree, so I guess that'd explain why. I looked through the look book (the second one) and didn't find anything of yours, but now, looking at your avatar, I remember seeing your stuff when I was browsing the other day and I REALLY REALLY like it!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's so cool and stylistic, and of course your clothes are so fun I've sewn some clothes, and I'm very unknowledgable, but very patient, so I've been able to make things by going off of clothes I already have and cutting out patterns based off of those, as well as just trying stuff on over and over again to see what I need to fix. Once I get my comic books out and published, I'm gonna see if I can work with some clothing designers and put together a collection on the merchandising side of things--you know, things that my character actually wears in the book. I'm probably going to sell puffy paint T-shirts, lol! I'm gonna bring puffy paint back, dang it! I'm also going to make some magnet dress-up dolls--those ones where you have the girl in her undies and you mix and match clothing to put on top of her. It'll be fun, methinks.
Fourboldmain: Thanks for the tips!! I've made three tutorials myself, but only one is a Photoshop tutorial, and that's more for people wanting to make black-and-white comics. The other two are a hair tutorial and an eye angle tutorial. But yeah, there are some amazing tutorials out there...and some that aren't so amazing haha!
Yay for unintentional American pride clown clothes!
I've sewn some clothes, and I'm very unknowledgable, but very patient, so I've been able to make things by going off of clothes I already have and cutting out patterns based off of those, as well as just trying stuff on over and over again to see what I need to fix. Once I get my comic books out and published, I'm gonna see if I can work with some clothing designers and put together a collection on the merchandising side of things--you know, things that my character actually wears in the book. I'm probably going to sell puffy paint T-shirts, lol! I'm gonna bring puffy paint back, dang it! I'm also going to make some magnet dress-up dolls--those ones where you have the girl in her undies and you mix and match clothing to put on top of her. It'll be fun, methinks.Fourboldmain: Thanks for the tips!! I've made three tutorials myself, but only one is a Photoshop tutorial, and that's more for people wanting to make black-and-white comics. The other two are a hair tutorial and an eye angle tutorial. But yeah, there are some amazing tutorials out there...and some that aren't so amazing haha!
Yay for unintentional American pride clown clothes!
really cute that costume.
now I have a question. you say you add the color on a separate layer from the line drawing...which is smart...but how do you get the shape of the color fill to conform to the lines/contour...are you coloring a copy of the line drawing then erasing out the lines?
What kind of tablet do you recommend, I am starting to look for one.
now I have a question. you say you add the color on a separate layer from the line drawing...which is smart...but how do you get the shape of the color fill to conform to the lines/contour...are you coloring a copy of the line drawing then erasing out the lines?
What kind of tablet do you recommend, I am starting to look for one.
I just went and checked out your links to dodge and burn -- fourboltmain -- interesting, I'll try to look into that technique for future reference...also I like the idea of a shading layer. In the past I've done a shading layer by hand (on hand drawings of croquis) then scanned them in so I could do some textile design in Lectra U4ia. I've yet to try it completely in photoshop. I am also in the process of learning photoshop cs, so I'll be bringing questions too!
Evexa: I use this one that's an AIPTEK brand, called "Hyper Pen 12000u". It's big, and it was cheap--it was $150 at CompUSA (but they accidentally had it down for $100, so they had to give it to me for that price). I like it, although I come across occasional problems with it blitzing and then I have to either unplug it or restart my computer. But as long as I don't drop my stylus on it or put a lot of weight on it or move it around, it's good. I know people who've had much worse problems than I with the AIPTEK brand. I found out after I got it that it's a generic brand, and the more high-quality ones are either Wacom or Intuous. So I would recommend a Wacom. And I've heard that really, it's not too bad to have a small tablet, because it's easier to draw smooth lines, and you can always zoom in for details. So I think a small-sized Wacom would be a good idea for you to get, especially to start out, since you've gotta find out whether you even LIKE tablets!
Marrimoda: I'm kinda confused about your question on Photoshop, but I'll try and ramble and hope that something answers that question! So I draw my outlines on one layer (and make sure it's not the background layer, because you can't color beneath that, so you need to start a new layer). Then, underneath that on another new layer, I color in. A lot of times, I can just color in with my drawing tablet. But when I'm just filling some outlines, there's a really cool tool to select stuff so you can just fill it in. There's that magic wand tool that's OKAY, where you click and everything that's within some outlines is selected. THe problem with that tool is....well you see--if you zoom in on your outlines, you'll see they're not all black (or whatever color). They've got these fading grey pixels around them. That's what gives it this look that it's a straight line, rather than being all grainy like how it would look if you drew on MSPaint. When you use the magic wand tool, it selects all the white area, but not any of those light grey pixels near the black. So when you fill with a color, you'll see that there's this line between the outline and the color that appears to be white. Those pixels are actually slightly grey, and so yeah, it doesn't look too good. Instead, you could use the polygonal lasso, which is under the regular lasso tool if you right click on it. With this, you can be really maticulous and go around all your outlines to fill in a good way. But a tool that's even cooler than this is the "magnetic polygonal lasso" that's also under the regular lasso if you right click on it. This thing is sometimes a little messed up to use, but generally, it magnetizes to lines as you put your cursor over them, and when you select and area with it and fill, it typically looks really good! Yeah. But no, I don't copy the lines. Argh I hope something in there answered your question!
Also, if you're scanning in your outlines, that would be a case where you select the outlines, which start out on the background layer, cut, and paste in a new layer so that it's not on the background, and then color beneath that. But in order to color beneath it, you have to select the outline layer, and go to that drop menu in the layer window that currently says "Normal" and select "Multiply". That makes it so that the lighter the pixels, the more transparent, and the closer to black, the less transparent.
Anyway, if I didn't answer your question, feel free to ask it in another way or something! Maybe I'm just in a dense mood today.
Marrimoda: I'm kinda confused about your question on Photoshop, but I'll try and ramble and hope that something answers that question! So I draw my outlines on one layer (and make sure it's not the background layer, because you can't color beneath that, so you need to start a new layer). Then, underneath that on another new layer, I color in. A lot of times, I can just color in with my drawing tablet. But when I'm just filling some outlines, there's a really cool tool to select stuff so you can just fill it in. There's that magic wand tool that's OKAY, where you click and everything that's within some outlines is selected. THe problem with that tool is....well you see--if you zoom in on your outlines, you'll see they're not all black (or whatever color). They've got these fading grey pixels around them. That's what gives it this look that it's a straight line, rather than being all grainy like how it would look if you drew on MSPaint. When you use the magic wand tool, it selects all the white area, but not any of those light grey pixels near the black. So when you fill with a color, you'll see that there's this line between the outline and the color that appears to be white. Those pixels are actually slightly grey, and so yeah, it doesn't look too good. Instead, you could use the polygonal lasso, which is under the regular lasso tool if you right click on it. With this, you can be really maticulous and go around all your outlines to fill in a good way. But a tool that's even cooler than this is the "magnetic polygonal lasso" that's also under the regular lasso if you right click on it. This thing is sometimes a little messed up to use, but generally, it magnetizes to lines as you put your cursor over them, and when you select and area with it and fill, it typically looks really good! Yeah. But no, I don't copy the lines. Argh I hope something in there answered your question!
Also, if you're scanning in your outlines, that would be a case where you select the outlines, which start out on the background layer, cut, and paste in a new layer so that it's not on the background, and then color beneath that. But in order to color beneath it, you have to select the outline layer, and go to that drop menu in the layer window that currently says "Normal" and select "Multiply". That makes it so that the lighter the pixels, the more transparent, and the closer to black, the less transparent.
Anyway, if I didn't answer your question, feel free to ask it in another way or something! Maybe I'm just in a dense mood today.
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Tentopet -- Okay so the magnetic lasso. I just figured out using that last night for isolating and moving objects, but I am not so good with it yet. It seems a bit erratic. I need practice. Thanks for the tips on that and scanned outlines. I a little thick this morning so hopefully I understood. Thanks
Marrimoda: I'm glad I was helpful! Yeah, with the magnetic lasso, you've gotta try and at least go close to the lines you want it to go around. And when it does something correctly, click on your mouse and that'll lock everything in that you have so far, and continue to click as you go along. If you screw up, no worries--you can always add or subtract from the selection with these icons at the top of the screen. The one with the two interlocked blocks that are painted in means that you're adding to the selection, the one next to it means you're subtracting, and the last one is if you want to invert your selection. And of course, the first one on the left is the default, where when you start a new selection, the last one disappears.
Eve: You're verrrrry welcome! I'm jealouse that you're getting the new CS! I only have Photoshop 6.0
Eve: You're verrrrry welcome! I'm jealouse that you're getting the new CS! I only have Photoshop 6.0
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hello fantastic and creative people here!!..
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discussions here...
check out what some of your fellow spotters have already come up with...!!
http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24859:flower:
how would you like to make $100 for your art?...$50 for two runner ups...
why not put some of this talent to work for the Fashion Spot Logo Contest!!??!?!?!...
this is the last week for entries...contest ends May 8th...let's see what you guys can come up with!!...wouldn't you like to give it a try?...each member may submit up to three entries...
official submissions should be posted here!!...
http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24846
discussions here...
check out what some of your fellow spotters have already come up with...!!
http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24859:flower:
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