The MAC Makeup Thread #2

[thesiren]

why are people offended? mac is donating a portion of the proceeds to the people of juarez. plus, this just in -- sometimes there IS beauty in the most ugly places. i guess people on this forum understand that.

kind of nuts about this promo pic. probably not for the mainstream makeup lover, but the image is so classic rodarte. i also love the names of the products...it's like actual work went into it.

 

[Mindbear]

This is what I was talking about earlier, I absolutely LOVE this kind of look, the sickly, ghostly pallor. Why are people so offended...I haven't really seen anyone talking about it and I'd be interested to know why people don't love it as much as I do??

 

[FleurDeLys]

People are reacting very strongly because of the names given to the products. 'Juarez', 'bordertown', 'factory' are examples of the names that people are offended by. Juarez is known as one of the most violent cities in the world, there's also a lot of violence against women, a lot of women get killed (feminicidios)... for example the women who work in factories have late shifts and go home at night or very early in the morning, which makes them a perfect target.
Some people think that with this collection it seems as if rodarte and MAC are glamorizing the tragedy going on there. Although I understand that this might be a sensitive subject for some people, it was getting out of hand. Some of the discussions got really ugly, people were unsulting each other .
MAC and Rodarte have already issued a statement to calm things down:

STATEMENT FROM M·A·C COSMETICS ON THE M·A·C RODARTE COLLECTION

We understand that product names in the M·A·C Rodarte collection have offended some of our consumers and fans. This was never our intent and we are very sorry. We are listening carefully to the comments posted and are grateful to those of you who have brought your concerns to the forefront of our attention. M·A·C will give a portion of the proceeds from the M·A·C Rodarte collection to help those in need in Juarez. We are diligently investigating the best way to do this. Please be assured that we will keep you posted on the details regarding our efforts.

STATEMENT FROM RODARTE ON THE M·A·C AND RODARTE COLLECTION

Our makeup collaboration with M·A·C developed from inspirations on a road trip that we took in Texas last year, from El Paso to Marfa. The ethereal nature of this landscape influenced the creative development and desert palette of the collection. We are truly saddened about injustice in Juarez and it is a very important issue to us. The M·A·C collaboration was intended as a celebration of the beauty of the landscape and people in the areas that we traveled.

temptalia.com

 

[miu_miu]

Whilst I appreciate that there is beauty in ugly places, and that at least now, many more people are aware of the situation - here's why it bothers me.

- These statements are released only after the online furore. When I heard about the collection and its inspiration, I was sure it was to be combined with campaigning and percentage donation, that it would be a motivation. Instead it's a response.
- To me this is indicative of where priorities at MAC HQ are, too many collections, too little thought - and this extends to all areas of business, not just this collection.
- So they'll give a portion of the proceeds? Better to give your money directly because I find it meaningless, the statement means nothing. It's like the Chantecaille palettes that retail for around £70 with a whopping 5% given to the charity It's also disappointing considering how strong and positive the Viva Glam campaign is.
- I don't know if I can explain my more personal reason for finding this collection distateful...I can argue it both ways actually so I'll keep it to myself, though I feel very strongly what I've said before.

 

[The_Ida]

Just bought Jazzed lipstick! It is a lot darker on me than on the Temptalia girl, but I apply it over nude lipstick and BAM...the best peach/coral lip colour ever!

 

[thesiren]

Whilst I appreciate that there is beauty in ugly places, and that at least now, many more people are aware of the situation - here's why it bothers me.

- These statements are released only after the online furore. When I heard about the collection and its inspiration, I was sure it was to be combined with campaigning and percentage donation, that it would be a motivation. Instead it's a response.
- To me this is indicative of where priorities at MAC HQ are, too many collections, too little thought - and this extends to all areas of business, not just this collection.
- So they'll give a portion of the proceeds? Better to give your money directly because I find it meaningless, the statement means nothing. It's like the Chantecaille palettes that retail for around £70 with a whopping 5% given to the charity It's also disappointing considering how strong and positive the Viva Glam campaign is.
- I don't know if I can explain my more personal reason for finding this collection distateful...I can argue it both ways actually so I'll keep it to myself, though I feel very strongly what I've said before.

bottom line - you vote with your dollar. we all know this.

this is arguably the most mainstream exposure the city of juarez and its problems has had. i do not think the mulleavys were looking to raise awareness, but ultimately that's what's happened and that's a good thing.

rodarte hardly glamorizes anything. from the get-go the vibe of the label has been dark, creepy, ethereal...i think for many it's the fact they don't want the issues of juarez staring at them from their vanities, not that they're overly concerned with the violence in the city since that's been going on for several years now.

 

[The_Ida]

Jazzed is so nice!

my pic

Well, I'm certainly pleased that I don't like anything from the Rodarte collection...now I like it even less.

 

[Luxx]

I find it interesting that Jazzed is getting so much love, it is a great color, but as an NC45 I feel like it wouldn't look good on me, but maybe I will give it a try all the same. The item I'm loving from Into the Groove right now are the Mineralize eyeshadow trios, especially Making It Easy which is really nice for a subtle look, I'm wearing it today with the Prunella eye kohl and it is just wonderful. I think I'm going to go back and get some of the other shades too. So many to choose from!

Image Credit | Temptalia

 

[The_Ida]

^If you like Jazzed then maybe you should check out Costa Chic?

 

[jomarlushka]

^what nail polish are you wearing? i really like the colour!

 

[The_Ida]

^It's H&M

 

[jomarlushka]

^It's H&M

cool colour! i'm sure it fits perfectly with the Jazzed Lipstick

 

[The_Ida]

Actually it does! I love corals, apparently It's called Sophisticated Susanna

 

[fashionista-ta]

Whilst I appreciate that there is beauty in ugly places, and that at least now, many more people are aware of the situation - here's why it bothers me.

- These statements are released only after the online furore. When I heard about the collection and its inspiration, I was sure it was to be combined with campaigning and percentage donation, that it would be a motivation. Instead it's a response.
- To me this is indicative of where priorities at MAC HQ are, too many collections, too little thought - and this extends to all areas of business, not just this collection.
- So they'll give a portion of the proceeds? Better to give your money directly because I find it meaningless, the statement means nothing. It's like the Chantecaille palettes that retail for around £70 with a whopping 5% given to the charity It's also disappointing considering how strong and positive the Viva Glam campaign is.
- I don't know if I can explain my more personal reason for finding this collection distateful...I can argue it both ways actually so I'll keep it to myself, though I feel very strongly what I've said before.

I hear you ... do they think their audience is so completely clueless that we would all just laugh this off?!?! The 'explanations' just emphasize how insensitive and poorly intentioned this really was.

It's interesting to note that AIDS was not originally a women's issue--though it becomes more so every day, extremely unfortunately ... could it be that MAC isn't woman-friendly??

I think the Mulleavys must be totally off in their own little Bronte sisters world. They certainly should all (the company and the designers) know better.

 

[thisismyname]

rodarte hardly glamorizes anything. from the get-go the vibe of the label has been dark, creepy, ethereal...i think for many it's the fact they don't want the issues of juarez staring at them from their vanities, not that they're overly concerned with the violence in the city since that's been going on for several years now.

I agree with this. If anything, this little experiment really shows that Rodarte cannot go mainstream. Granted, their Target line was a sucess, but it was also so watered down from the actual Rodarte aesthetic. (and if the Rodarte/MAC collab attempted to be so tame it would almost certainly be nearly unrecognizable except for the Rodarte name on the label)

I hear you ... do they think their audience is so completely clueless that we would all just laugh this off?!?! The 'explanations' just emphasize how insensitive and poorly intentioned this really was.

I also totally agree with this. I wasn't originally against the collection (a little perplexed perhaps, that MAC would choose to collaborate with Rodarte based on a collection that didn't have the best makeup out of all their runway shows and conceptually is very dark, morbid, and controversial), but after the series of statements I'm really taken aback, because when I first heard of the collection I assumed MAC knew how polemic it would be, but apparently they didn't have a grasp on any aspect of it.

 

[thisismyname]

I find it interesting that Jazzed is getting so much love, it is a great color, but as an NC45 I feel like it wouldn't look good on me, but maybe I will give it a try all the same.

I would check it out, especially if you like cremesheen lipsticks! My friend has a similar skin tone to you and Jazzed looks lovely on her, very peachy but not garish. (I'm a NW15 and love it also, I think the shade deserves the hype it's been getting since it's very versatile)

 

[fashionista-ta]

Ida, you should post a pic of it on you ... I honestly thought it looked terrible on the Temptalia girl I notice it's sold out on the MAC site ...

PS Profusion was my gold standard for coral ... very sad they've discontinued it

 

[lucy92]

I think the Mulleavys must be totally off in their own little Bronte sisters world. They certainly should all (the company and the designers) know better.

i agree, there was a critical new yorker story about rodarte last year that basically spelled that out.

i still dont think the rodarte for mac colors are all that flattering. taupey colors look awful on most people. changing the names of the colors wont help too much.

anyone own lipstick in politely pink? thinking about picking that one up after work today.

 

[The_Ida]

Ida, you should post a pic of it on you ... I honestly thought it looked terrible on the Temptalia girl I notice it's sold out on the MAC site ...

Yes ma'am!

Straight of the tube, no primer no nothing:

Paled out with a nude lipstick...makes such a beautiful peachy/coral colour!

 

[The_Ida]

It's moisturizing without being slippery...it's quite pigmented really. Even though it's a Cremesheen, it's not very shiny (nice!). It's a pretty decent l/s IMO, and brilliant for summer!