This is England... (Skinhead Chic)

[ApertureRomance]

Soo Catwoman

raystevenson.co.uk
I think from what I remember (I used to be obsessed with reading about punk culture) she worked in SEX.
Read more here http://www.soocatwoman.com/main.htm

 

[emi25]

Theese girls are from www.hel-looks.com

 

[lollicandy]

Ooh nice pictures everyone! Although, I think of Soo Catwoman as more punk than skinhead.

I actually didn't mean discuss the whole politics thing as in hijack this thread. I only wanted to make an aside about this style, Lesypersound I'm glad that you think this way too (how can you not include politics for example --> 'nazi chic'?) I don't think you can make fashion 'ahistorical', it didn't spring out of nowhere. But I also understand the rules, and I don't want to ruffle any tailfeathers here so...

Anyway, a totally random example of skinhead fashion is from Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle. Justin Theroux's character, Seamus O'Grady, had was a skinhead. I watched some behind the scenes trailer or something about Full Throttle, and Theroux mentioned that he and the stylist decided on giving him this skinhead outfit. I know Theroux is from DC too. I don't know if he was in the punk scene back in the day there or not though...

 

[ApertureRomance]

Yeah I posted Soo though mainly because of her hair and the influence she must have had !

 

[Feline]

I know quite a few skinheads in my local rock pub in York who like the look & the music, but are really sound guys, not into far right politics. I don't know any (or seen that many) in Lincoln, but obviously some good ones as Mum told me she saw a woman collapse in the street and 2 skinheads came to her assistance! The skinheads & punks I know are part of a wider social group, but apparently in the late 70's, it used to be skins v punks all the way! I do notice some overlaps in how they dress

 

[urd]

I just watched a documentary about the iconic Fred Perry shirt, which is very popular amongst mods and skinheads

 

[lollicandy]

^Sounds interesting, what's the title?

 

[emi25]

I've heard that the color of the stripes on the Fred Perry shirt symbolises sexual preferences etc...tried to google it but I didnt find anything...Maybe it's out of topic...!

 

[InnocentFairy]

I love this film, the director is amazing.

I remember skinheads in the 80s' and I guess the 'trend' can be seen today, even though 'skinhead' was part of the working class culture. But with the working class/under class (like most cultures) - 'cultures' change. The way I see it is... Mods have become skinheads and skinheads have become 'chavs'. Not all skinheads are 'racist', skinheads was a working class culture (that were into reggae and ska) that rejected the 'mod' culture as Italian suits, scooters, etc were expensive, etc. Therefore with the rise of under mass employment under Thatcher they could not identify with such consumerism e.g. 'expensive suits'.

Some became 'racist' (not all!) because they blamed immigrants for the rise of mass employment, the Falklands and the closing of coal mines - this created anger amongst the w/class. Today, we have 'chav' - gold chains, check shirts, gel down hair, caps...still quite similar. This is because working class has developed into an 'under class', the 'won't work, can't work' generation.

 

[InnocentFairy]

Mods:

ventnorblog.com

Skinheads:

www.acs.bg

Chavs:

cornerstonegroup.files.wordpress.com

The working class youth culture of Great Britain!

 

[lesypersound]

I've heard that the color of the stripes on the Fred Perry shirt symbolises sexual preferences etc...tried to google it but I didnt find anything...Maybe it's out of topic...!

lol, i hadn't heard that but i know for sure that shoelace and sometimes brace colors mean something for some skins. white = cop killer or racist / red = socialist / etc...but there are a load of ppl who don't care as well.


this movie is available on google videos for streaming--just incase folks can't find it locally and don't do torrents.

 

[lollicandy]

^I heard the shoelace thing but never the Perry shirt colors. Interesting. Lesypersound, what's the name of the movie??

^^LOL at the chavs!! I get what you mean though, hilarious to see them on TFS, because clown pendants and huge billowing trackies aren't exactly my idea of 'fashion'.

InnocentFairy, thanks for such a thorough and concise explanation! Definitely enlightened me Thanks.

 

[InnocentFairy]

N.B: That should be the rise of mass UNemployment...not employment, got carried away there with typing fast! Lol!

 

[lesypersound]

lollicandy--sorry I wasn't specific, I meant that This is England is streaming at Google Videos. :] and i lol'd at Chavs as well.

 

[*Jibrielle*]

I know quite a few skinheads in my local rock pub in York who like the look & the music, but are really sound guys, not into far right politics. I don't know any (or seen that many) in Lincoln, but obviously some good ones as Mum told me she saw a woman collapse in the street and 2 skinheads came to her assistance! The skinheads & punks I know are part of a wider social group, but apparently in the late 70's, it used to be skins v punks all the way! I do notice some overlaps in how they dress

Yeah, a lot of my friends are skinheads too, they are good people . It was like that here too punks vs skins but now they get a long (most of them anyways )

As far as the tred goes...I saw a spred on skinhead fashion at metropop magazine and I hope it doesnt last long it would be weird to me :S

edit: just saw this picture:

credit: ontd

 

[ghoulxqueen]

If skinhead style becomes popular among the mainstream....ALOT of us will be pissed,
people dont just start dressing like it because they like the style, its not a fashion statement,and in some places you'll get your *** kicked if you shave yourself in

 

[InnocentFairy]

If skinhead style becomes popular among the mainstream....ALOT of us will be pissed,
people dont just start dressing like it because they like the style, its not a fashion statement,and in some places you'll get your *** kicked if you shave yourself in

I agree, it is not a fashion statement. It is more of a 'political movement', or even a 'political subculture' if you like.

 

[BerlinRocks]

I still hadn't see the movie and feeling like ridiculous talking about it...
but I've seen an itw of the film director + some teasers and This is England is autobiogrpahic... this is about his childhood... I, too, was really confused about liking the skinhead look (i won't say aesthétic... and I think we don't have to feel ashamed to like or talk about this kind of things...) but I learnt that actually there were two types of skinheads...
the neo-nazi skinheads.... and the others (middle class english workers and best friends)...... who came first... I had really no idea about this
and this film is mostly about the second ones I mean the others (not the skinheads we do hate)...
I will go and see the movie pretty soon... so I may tell more...and I saw some teasers from the movie... and there's a black skins... then...
if you wanna have more infos and photos about skinheads... check out Gavin Watson (he did a book of photos, too), he's famous for this interest he had/still has into the skins movement...

ok i'm always reading most of the posts after i'm writing...
but i think this, is very good!

I love this film, the director is amazing.

I remember skinheads in the 80s' and I guess the 'trend' can be seen today, even though 'skinhead' was part of the working class culture. But with the working class/under class (like most cultures) - 'cultures' change. The way I see it is... Mods have become skinheads and skinheads have become 'chavs'. Not all skinheads are 'racist', skinheads was a working class culture (that were into reggae and ska) that rejected the 'mod' culture as Italian suits, scooters, etc were expensive, etc. Therefore with the rise of under mass employment under Thatcher they could not identify with such consumerism e.g. 'expensive suits'.

Some became 'racist' (not all!) because they blamed immigrants for the rise of mass employment, the Falklands and the closing of coal mines - this created anger amongst the w/class. Today, we have 'chav' - gold chains, check shirts, gel down hair, caps...still quite similar. This is because working class has developed into an 'under class', the 'won't work, can't work' generation.

 

[ghoulxqueen]

I agree, it is not a fashion statement. It is more of a 'political movement', or even a 'political subculture' if you like.

some skins arent even involved in politics in anyway, and its definatly not something you try on for a day or two
in one way im dissapointed of the whole mainstream-ing of skinhead style but on the other hand I'm excited about the cheap knockoffs of freds and ben shermans haha!more for me...

 

[*Jibrielle*]

If skinhead style becomes popular among the mainstream....ALOT of us will be pissed,
people dont just start dressing like it because they like the style, its not a fashion statement,and in some places you'll get your *** kicked if you shave yourself in

Tell me about it...