lady grey said:
look at the picture & read the article. euguenia is shown and described before hana. - #4. the photo on the opebning 2-pager illustrates the article.
peretz makes several guesses but she actually says that marija is the next to join nati & carmen & I agree.
I'm pretty sure Hana is listed way ahead of Eugenia in the writing. Hana is right after Karolina. And Eugenia is second to last. Read the article on page 267.
lady grey said:
your perception that KK is the most famous is incorrect.
natalia is so much more successful than kk its no comparison.
KK at best had a few average campaigns like kors & TH.
nati in 2-3 years has made more money & gotten tons better edits than kk ever did.
for some reason the general public has some idea that KK is some superstar girl but its all hype like that BS VHI award that anna wintour gave her. and if KK is so great why is her career winding down at '21' as that article says?
valentina is 22 and shes MUCH hotter than kk now.
First off, who is recognized on the streets? Who has more publicity? Who gets invited to more parties, award shows, and talk-shows? Oh yeah, Karolina
Haha you think that's all the campaigns she did? Read the thread, some posts proved this wrong.
Um sorry, but last time I checked Nat had L'oreal and CK contracts. Karolina has had VS for years now, not to mention that she has logged more campaigns and runway shows than Nat ever did. I mean her Express campaign probably paid HUGE amounts of money.
And if you read the article, which it now seems like you haven't, you would read these words from Karolina
"Now it's time to start another life", For her, that means picking up where she left off in high school...
lady grey said:
valentina, martija & poly are MUCH hotter than kk is now & i wld say ever.
read this entire thread- natis ck ads & valentina's RL ads are so far above any ad or money that kk ever made its a joke. kors & tommy? thats the best kk can do? yuck.
kk is by no means the model you are claiming. shes an anna wintour hype that only -half-succeeded. if you want to get behind wintour proteges look at natalia & maybe daria if she can keep it together for another year or 2.
She only-half succeeded. Considering she is probably the only working model recognized in conjunction with Gisele and Kate. I think that is say something.
Do you honestly not know how much money all of Karolina's campaigns have paid? They may have been commercial, but commercial pays a lot of money...
lady grey said:
both us vogue [2 years ago] and vanity fair [this month] called nati "the #1 girl of the moment. "
putting aside for the moment conde nast's self-serving bias & agenda there,
Was KK EVER called "the #1" anything except on that fake VHI 'awards' show?
sorry, KK NEVER reached the level that nati is at now [and has been on & off for 2 years].
KK never reached nati's level & that's that. period.
you have an unrealistic idea of where you think KK cimbed. period.
Funny that you say that Vogue called her the top model TWO YEARS AGO. Things change season to season, and that's been two years ago. Does she do any runway besides Calvin or any campaigns besides his or L'oreal. NO.
Haha funny that you also call it a Fake award show on VH1 but yet you don't give Carmen crap, and she won that award as well.
And when she received that award, she was the hottest thing on the runway.
lady grey said:
happy canadian you dont sound too happy!
cant you have a discussion without getting crazy?
I have lots of quotes & info coming up on both nati & KK.
the topic is the vanity fair story, and peretz makes it clear that nati is the #1 girl. as vogue said 2 years ago. no one ever called KK the #1 anything.
why do you have to defend her so much? she loses in any comparison to nati past & present.
this topic is the vanity fair story. peretz compares the girls & nati is #1.
a PECKING ORDER.
why does this comparison disturb you so?
why is kk so important to you?
do you have an alternate agenda? I cant understand your outsized passion!
we're exchanging opinions & facts. enjoy it!
enjoy the vf pictures, and I'll have further quotes & info along this topic of these 9 girls & espec nati & KK soon.
the topic is vf & nati is #1 kk is #3 and falling.
its a fine article with pretty photos.
stay cool
Like you don't sound psychotic enough yourself? Take a look at yourself hun.
Really if you want to look at the facts, KK does look better in comparison. Take their exposure, amount of runway shows, number of campaigns, amount of money paid, and publicity; compare them. I think KK has made more money, did more runway, more campaigns, and definitely walked out more famous.