Vetements F/W 2016.17 Paris

[Pricciao]

I can't recall anyone saying it intellectual, or even groundbreaking. Everyone who loves this brand who have commented on previous collections I read, most of them saying it's very niche, and don't expect a huge audience for it at all.

 

[Marc10]

To me it's always been quite funny how people decided that this is a "intellectual" brand. I feel like fashion is so desperate to find the next hip big thing, and they latched themselves onto Vetements with expectations and demands that never were really on the table for them. Demna never set this brand to be something that would revolutionize fashion in terms of creativity and design. What they do very well is to create a following and identity to the brand, and feed that consumer of what they want from them, which is also the winning model of Slimane.

So I just think it's a case of thought which lens people see their collections. I see (and I think everybody should too) see it as a streetwear brand, who makes nice streetwear pieces. Trying to look anything further is silly.

 

[RedSmokeRise]

There's a certain kind of arrogance to their work that really doesn't click for me. Last season it was "ironic" DHL shirts and now it's Hop Topic hoodies? Come on.

Even as a young person I don't get the appeal of any of this.

 

[MulletProof]

Everyone who loves this brand who have commented on previous collections I read, most of them saying it's very niche, and don't expect a huge audience for it at all.

Of course they'll say that, same for tribe, cult, etc. That's what a good trend is about, gives you that nice one of a kind feeling, even though you're one in a bunch. In LA Vetements is pretty much the unofficial hipster credential, meaning it's as trendy as you can get, trendy bar=trendy vetements spotted. Nothing "small audience" about it, let alone niche. Other residents who wear it? the Kardashians, and Chiara Ferragni ... I don't know, maybe it's kept for a small selection in some places where Vetements is hard to come by. As far as I'm concerned this is as "niche" as Yeezy... or Gosha for that matter.

 

[Pricciao]

Really? That's surprising to me, now I can get the mood you guys are feeling.
Then how the hell it's still non buzz worthy here in East Asia, so confused. Usually some part of our fashion community is in sync with LA mode.

 

[dior_couture1245]

There's a certain kind of arrogance to their work that really doesn't click for me. Last season it was "ironic" DHL shirts and now it's Hop Topic hoodies? Come on.

Even as a young person I don't get the appeal of any of this.

This is my biggest issue, too. The arrogance. I find Vetements to be incredibly pessimistic, condescending and arrogant. It's the way in which everything they do is so soaked in irony.

 

[elle_gb]

I don't think it's bad collection, they did what they did best. Since the beginning they've represented this young cool vibe sort of niche style. In terms of creativity it's not that level but they've delivered something to the industry.

 

[Nymphaea]

Nothing original at all, just old.

 

[AnaD]

The first two looks remind me very much of the tennis uniform I used to wear in school. The whole collection seems surreal to me and not in a good way, it's like there's no direction to Demna Gvasalia's designs anymore, so he just threw some random things together and called it a collection.

 

[dodencebt]

I think I am getting too old for this s*it. I do love that black leather trench coat though, it's stunning.

 

[Cosmic Voices]

What? How do you relate this to Thom?

I like this collection, this definitely makes me feel the gang, but so much cleaner up. Still very lean, and some quite insufferable colors. It is getting a strong aesthetic out. Few good propose of work wear thrown in between, that's nice. Most of the shoulder pads are fine, but we know that no one is going to be that 80s again anymore. Other than that AND velvet, how easy yet strong looking they are?
If you want to know what's the vibe about Vetements or Gosha, you can watch The Tribe for this Russian/Ukrainian influence first.

vogue runway

 

[gossiping]

this is stupid

hope balenciaga looks nothing like it

 

[Zazie]

.. this really makes me miss the heyday of BLESS, if they ever even had such a thing. I always got the impression that despite the pretentious, difficult and other accusations, people that were really into design and did creative things for a living were their actual customers, because it came down to making these pieces part of their wardrobe (as it should be?!).

Now this person wishes he was catering to that small group of girls that like simplicity, but it's everything but, their audience is basically the lowest demographic: the bloggers, former bloggers, bloggers turned "up and coming photographers" or whatever's the new dj, streetstyle personalities, the kardashians, instagirls. Maybe this is finally an honest attempt to make them as irritating outside as they often are inside.

Bingo. Reminds me of older Bernhard Willhem and other Berliner designers too. Bless had a lot more thought going in each collection though, and more original. I wouldn't mind 30% of this as a sort of alternative Paris fashion week show, but for its outrageous prices and outsized reputation...

I'm also irritated he copies the narrowed shoulder pads of Martin Margiela....just irritated that he took so much from MMM.

 

[ogepma]

The fashion industry seems to be desperate for the next rebel, so what do the editors do; seek a brand that reminds them of the days when Margiela took the fashion world by storm and then latch on to it as the new "cool" brand, irrespective of how unoriginal it is. The collection is not terrible, I like some things here, but we've all seen this before. To me, this is a cliche of what an "i'm too cool you can't understand me, it's intellectual" brand looks like. It's very boring but I guess it's working for them, for now. I feel their time will run out pretty soon though, some of the ideas presented here smell of desperation to remain cool.

 

[KKnardi]

There's an excitement to the clothes, even though some of the pieces are simply oversize regular clothing you might find in any store. I like this particular use and styling. The prints are a win/loose situation for me. The very wide shoulders might be a little hard to translate into real life.

I'm excited to see what he does for Balenciaga; hope it'll be something very different from what Alex Wang did.

 

[TREVOFASHIONISTO]

Vetements is a brand for insecure people. Its like "dont look at me, but please do because im a great person who is able to afford a $600 swetshirt." This seems to be the way a lot of designers are approaching collections. Nobody wants to be seen but everyone wants to be included in the "cool" group. The design gap between high and low is getting smaller and smaller yet the prices are still the same... it doesnt make sense.


I will say the styling is what makes the collection, but I could do this look without buying the clothing.

 

[Phuel]

^^^ I usually avoid this label's thread, but you've brought up a great point, TREVO: These in-the-know labels do attract the most insecure but desperately-seeking-validation types.

If these types just put these looks together themselves from vintage, DIY, thriftstore etc, I would even think that they’re cool. But, they’ll only wear it because of the expensive Vetements label— is why these types are so phoney and useless to me.

I will admit the giant towel ring used as a keyring for holding your trench is very clever LOL Next time I’m headed to Home Depot, I may pick one up.

In any case, I’m more apathetic by what they’re doing: It’s predictable and contrived, and it’s a formula that’s been put to use to sell to a certain type for some time now. And those types will always be around to snatch it all up— or at least namedrop.

 

[AD011620]

I could go on for hours explaining why I like or dislike this... I also tend to avoid saying anything if I have nothing good to say... But this time I'll make an exception. I hate it! And I genuinly feel sorry for people who like this and who feel the need to hide their usually boring personalities behind these ugly looks.

 

[ogepma]

Vetements is a brand for insecure people. Its like "dont look at me, but please do because im a great person who is able to afford a $600 swetshirt." This seems to be the way a lot of designers are approaching collections. Nobody wants to be seen but everyone wants to be included in the "cool" group. The design gap between high and low is getting smaller and smaller yet the prices are still the same... it doesnt make sense.

This! I couldn't agree more. It beggars belief. What exactly is the point of being so influenced by the "street" and interpreting it in as literal a manner as possible then selling it off at astronomical prices; who are they fooling (apart from those insecure people)? It's this whole attitude of "everything has to be cool to be relevant". It's very tired IMO. I think being cool is not about what brand you wear, it's more about the individuals attitude and how one carries oneself; you can't force it. This seems so forced, they aren't even hiding it.

All that being said, I am ever so curious to see what he'd do at Balenciaga, it could really go either way.

 

[IloveDiorHomme]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGZpgYDf_8I

This pannel is so right... Vêtements is:
-"racist" ( they claim to be different but only use white skinny people )
-overpriced
-overrated