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Why do we need more women designers?

For the woman saying that Chanel could’ve hired a woman because there are MANY that could’ve done the job, which one (Phoebe aside) is talented enough for the role? Just wondering. 🤔

The fact that they suggested Marine Serre says it all :lol:
 
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Anglo-saxon people seems to be really invested in that question.
For me, from the get go, there’s an issue if the only womenswear designer you could name are Phoebe Philo and Stella McCartney. It tells me that you don’t really keep up with the industry.

And I hate that idea of someone « telling us ». No those designers are only proposing. Those are propositions. Every woman is free to go for it or no.
Did the tshirts and performative feminists acts of MGC helped the case of women leading fashion houses?
 
Anglo-saxon people seems to be really invested in that question.
For me, from the get go, there’s an issue if the only womenswear designer you could name are Phoebe Philo and Stella McCartney. It tells me that you don’t really keep up with the industry.

And I hate that idea of someone « telling us ». No those designers are only proposing. Those are propositions. Every woman is free to go for it or no.
Did the tshirts and performative feminists acts of MGC helped the case of women leading fashion houses?
I'm SCREAMING! :lol:
Also, all true.
 
It's kind of crazy that the only new female designer startign this season was LT and Bottega... Next year we will have MGC at Fendi...
 
It's kind of crazy that the only new female designer startign this season was LT and Bottega... Next year we will have MGC at Fendi...
Rachel Scott started at Proenza Schouler this season.
 
Designing for a heterosexual woman today is no longer a progressive idea. It is a traditional idea.

So when a nontrivial faction of the societal movement is away from this notion, fashion as a progressive field reflects it.

The resentment from some traditional women who spend 6 figure at Chanel (not me. I am just a messenger!) is very telling.

A mother will always miss some business, unless you rent a womb. So in a way, the current progressive culture leaves heterosexual women behind even more.

No wonder fewer women want kids, in addition to other aspects such as financial conditions.

But the fashion houses all have choices. Perhaps most wil eventually present the most outlandish ideas on the runway, but showing the more traditional pieces in stores. Unless men change the way they dress in the boardroom, I don't see women submitting to those clown outfits, some with $10,000 price tags.

Going back to the topic. I don't care if the CD is a man or a woman. The CD needs to understand women and respect women. It looks to me that fewer people show such interest nowadays. But they exist with a strong force, and I will name Sacai, Tao, and CDG. (CDG is often seemingly impractical but it has many lines that can be very practical.)
 
^yeah for all the talk about CDG crazy runway pieces, they're very good at passing the spirit of those down to more wearable (I mean physically comfortable, NOT 'synonymous with dull') pieces that wouldn't really raise comment in an office.
 
Some food for thought:
Luxury
Opinion: Can the Female Gaze Save Fashion?
Centring women is the key to creating garments they actually want to buy, writes Sarah Richardson.

By Sarah Richardson
12 February 2026


With sales stagnant, a simple but urgent question has echoed through the fashion conversation: Is fashion still for women?

In recent seasons, several collections have been dismissed as unwearable, while others have been criticised as too pedestrian. Reaction to the latest round of haute couture shows followed this pattern, with commentary oscillating from “it’s too wearable” to “it’s not wearable enough.”

High fashion has always lived somewhere between a dream and the constraints of the everyday. Even couture has forever been suspended between the top-most expression of fashion authorship and imagination, and real-life dressing, albeit for the world’s wealthiest women.

A fashion collection only truly succeeds when it has vision and that vision can be translated in such a way that finds its way into women’s lives via pieces they can wear, feel powerful in and live beautifully with. That space between imagination and reality is where a lasting fashion legacy is forged — or falters.

Wearable collections that move naturally from runway to wardrobe — less about pure fantasy than refinement, intelligent fabrication, precise tailoring and silhouettes that honour the female form — can be powerful. They rely on exceptional materials, perfect fit and exquisite accessories, which can provide a look with emotional punctuation. And when they’re put together with sharp merchandising and considered styling, elevated yet real, they can certainly deliver what women want.

So, too, can collections that start with emotional theatre, where form, texture and movement awaken something visceral but the poetry of the catwalk is steered through thoughtful merchandising into pieces women can actually live in, clothes that carry the feeling of the show without losing functionality. When a creative director has a 360-degree vision across design, merchandising and marketing the results can be truly extraordinary: clothes with both imagination and pragmatism.

Problems arise when a designer becomes so consumed by fantasy that the woman effectively disappears. When fantasy runs wild, proportions are distorted, fabrics only work in a small size and fit goes missing. The result is reliant on “a look”: how it works on a very young model or photographs for images, speaking more to the industry than to women themselves. These collections can generate hype and critical praise for a few seasons, but they rarely translate into lasting desire and consistent sales.

For collections to work, designers need to centre women and their needs for both fantasy and function. At its heart, fashion is still a dialogue between creator and client, and that conversation mustn’t become one-sided. When women design for women, they tend to see their task differently and the language changes: fashion becomes less about being looked at and more about creating a feeling.

The female gaze isn’t a buzzword, it’s a way of seeing that women designers may understand instinctively but male designers can and must adopt more consistently if they are to succeed.

When creative directors centre women, the results speak for themselves: garments women reach for again and again because they reflect both their fantasies and their realities, and they feel as good as they look.

Sarah Richardson is a stylist and co-founder and editor in chief of Beyond Noise.
BUSINESS OF FASHION
 
My opinion: I think that if the industry as a whole can openly accept that The Era of The Creative Maverick is long gone (permanently or not), they'll finally start hiring more female creative directors, who more often be focused on serving the customer rather than trying to shake the boat with a radical vision like gay men (or queer dsigners as whole) often do.
 
My opinion: I think that if the industry as a whole can openly accept that The Era of The Creative Maverick is long gone (permanently or not), they'll finally start hiring more female creative directors, who more often be focused on serving the customer rather than trying to shake the boat with a radical vision like gay men (or queer dsigners as whole) often do.
I think I'm more partial to duos like Virginie and Karl, Maria Grazia and Pierpaolo, Armani and his niece Roberta. I like a balance between pragmatism and creativity. Valentino under Maria Grazia and Pierpaolo was perfection. So much beautiful and elegant daywear.
 
I think @Lola701 said most of it already and I can't really disagree with any of it. However, while I think countless gay men have been truly able to make things that women want to wear, I do feel we need more women designers and CDs. It doesn't make total sense to me that the womenswear industry is primarily controlled by men. Perhaps like Lola pointed out, we need them even more in corporate spaces.

This is one of the few industries where gay men are able to flourish and I'm all for it, as having that kind of sensitivity is not necessarily a gender thing as proven by countless male designers in the past, but we need to face the fact that many don't. I don't feel that for instance, JWA has that kind of sensibility, neither did Margiela. Margiela's designs are incredibly influential, but as a woman, I would never wear anything he ever made, it's far too cold, clinical, and calculated. I so prefer other designers who reinterpreted his ideas, both men and women. Being a woman designer doesn't guarantee that you're going to make masterpieces either, since at the end it's just about having that sensibility and empathy for women regardless of your gender.

Where we definitely need more women is in photography and styling. I don't know about you guys, but that Robbie Spencer stylist guy seems to me like he hates women, nothing he styles appeals to me, I find it 99% of the time repelling and he's one of the leading stylists in the industry. Of course, we have photographers like Irving Penn and so many others who truly understood what is beautiful about a garment, but I still feel many women get ignored in this field. Women also know what women like, and they deserve more chances in showing it.
 
It seems that everyone is loving the new women designers! Leoni at Calvin Klein doing wonders for the brand, Rachel showing the best PS collection to this date, Louise delivering light and very chic collections at BV, Sarah Burton giving Givenchy a totally new identity that is both commercial and has fashion credibility... We are definitely on the right track!!!
 
Unpopular opinion (hate speech) : Need more straight men designer.

I think men Avant-Garde designers tend to be straight or at most bisexual: Yohji (straight or used to be, I don't know), Rick Owens (bi), Jun Takahashi and Takahiro Miyashita (straight), Filip Aricks of AF Vandevorst (straight). Issey Miyake was gay and I guess Chalayan or Junya Watanabe are too. We have streetwear designers like Pharrell and they are almost 100% straight.
 
Unpopular opinion (hate speech) : Need more straight men designer.

I think men Avant-Garde designers tend to be straight or at most bisexual: Yohji (straight or used to be, I don't know), Rick Owens (bi), Jun Takahashi and Takahiro Miyashita (straight), Filip Aricks of AF Vandevorst (straight). Issey Miyake was gay and I guess Chalayan or Junya Watanabe are too. We have streetwear designers like Pharrell and they are almost 100% straight.
Yeah!!! Like Pier Paolo, please! He is such a visionary and soooo good. Do you think the reason behind his amazing amount of talent is that he is straight?

Why would someone ask for talented designers in general? That's absurd!! Way better if we also take into account more things aside from talent. We can even categorize them depending on the lenght of their fingers, the whiteness of their teeth and maybe also if they wear glasses or not.

It makes such a difference! If you wear glasses you do clothes that people like more and you are bound to have more commercial success! They understand better the needs people have.
 
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Those are very serious and almost depressing corporatist discussions at a time when people claims to hate that idea of corporatism…

For me the push for that conversation is a push to instrumentalize a sort of agenda that doesn’t make sense.

The fact that we need more women designers has nothing to do with men. Companies needs to provide environments that will allow women to thrive and to also believe in their ambition and go for those jobs.

My issue about this conversation is that it portrays women and men designers as a monolith. It implies that a woman will show women in a more dignified way than a man would ever….
That a woman will be more pragmatic when a man will only be about a dream.

Are Donatella Versace, Iris Van Harpen, Marine Serre, the girls from The Attico dressing that bourgeois idea of what a woman designing is? I don’t think so.
Is Rei Kawakubo that attached to the notion of practicality? No…

Where we definitely need more women is in photography and styling. I don't know about you guys, but that Robbie Spencer stylist guy seems to me like he hates women, nothing he styles appeals to me, I find it 99% of the time repelling and he's one of the leading stylists in the industry. Of course, we have photographers like Irving Penn and so many others who truly understood what is beautiful about a garment, but I still feel many women get ignored in this field. Women also know what women like, and they deserve more chances in showing it.

If there’s one side of fashion where women are heavily represented (besides design), it’s the styling.
There are more stylists that are women, who have a long standing career than men….
The job of styling is very much linked to magazines and in fashion, the magazine world was dominated by bourgeois women. There are very few men but because the turn over in that world is not that important, you may feel the opposite.

Carlyne Cerf and Joe McKenna changed a bit the status of a stylist. Then Carine and Emmanuelle elevated it even more but when it comes to stylists, it’s heavily dominated by women.

The same for celebrity styling. There, it’s a bit changing because it’s the side that is opening more to diversity and therefore some few black men or women are finding opportunities they would have never found without that circuit.

I like to see that there are more and more women photographers who are thriving and ready to elevate their work to Art.

There was always women photographers but their work wasn’t necessarily that much celebrated.
I think about a Bettina Rheims or a Dominique Issermann. They did fantastic work but they were never recognized as Artists so less exposure.

That is a discipline that needs more women indeed but a distinctive POV.
 
it's the patriarchy-
gay men also benefit from it and then they also have the gay mafia to boot...

the fact that this is even a question explains why we need more...
not just creative directors- OWNERS...POWER...WE NEED POWER AND OWNERSHIP...
not just "jobs"...

maybe men are just more ruthless and lack in empathy so they are able to be absolutely cutthroat and succeed in business more than women who want everyone to have a good experience...???
*and what's wrong with that...i'd like to know...🎶

i don't care about male or female designers...
i care about women not being dictated to by anyone...
i care about freedom...for everyone...
 
I can’t believe anyone would mention a conspiratorial gay mafia.
 
lol...
conspiratorial...??
yeah- no one said that...

the gay mafia is a well know fact in the fashion industry...
there's also an asian mafia...though it's much smaller...at least in the US...
it's not *news*
the boys help each other out...

"mafia" in the sense that they are "family" and look out for one another...
la famiglia...

the gay community is very very very good at putting aside their differences and coming together for the greater good...
it's kind of amazing...
:flower:

now i'm picturing a bunch of jerks having secret meetings...plotting and scheming...
lol...that's funny...
no- that's not what the gay mafia is...
i mean, i guess they do have secret meetings in that they hang out together and no women are invited...
but i don't think they are thinking about women at these get togethers...
quite the opposite...
:brows: :lol:
 
the tone shifts from reflection to blame
this is not limited to fashion.
The generation of participation trophies. Gen Y probably does this the most, though I do agree that they were unfortunate with their timing on many fronts.
But it is always other people's fault.;)
 
From my point of view, it seems that the structure of these fashion brands are set up for only people who can devote 101% of themselves to it - and nurture these brands as opposed to a family. By the time some people reach that point in their career where they're able to advocate for themselves being full-fledged creative director of these brands, the question of starting a family is naturally raised - and I assume the pressure is more on women. (Note: I know I am generalizing by assuming every aspiring female creative wants to be a mother). I mean Phoebe had to basically leave fashion twice to just be able to focus on her children. It's like this across many careers/fields, but fashion especially just seems like, in Galliano's word from a recent interview, a nonstop "merry-go-round: - especially the industry as it stands now where luxury brands have basically become fast fashion.

On a more positive, there are great up-and-coming women designers that I feel are actually doing some incredible work that really speaks to women clientele. Some I would like to highlight are Lucila Safdie (a young Argentinian designer who launched her own namesake brand) and the sisters that design the womenswear of Kiko Kostadinov.
 

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