Yohji Yamamoto S/S 05 Paris

[faust]

Originally posted by Acid@Oct 5 2004, 08:55 AM
no offence to Yojhi fans but i find this kind of fashion a bit odd and almost pretentious. i cant make any sence out of it or why anyone would find it appealing

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What do you find pretensious?

 

[Spacemiu]

Originally posted by runner@Oct 5 2004, 03:09 AM


my favorite

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me to

 

[Acid]

Originally posted by faust@Oct 5 2004, 01:58 PM
What do you find pretensious?

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i find it sort of elitist in a way, in the same respect that some abstract artwork can be. its another perfect case of something people will pretend to like beause somebody else says they do even though they actually find it bizarre

 

[faust]

Originally posted by Acid@Oct 5 2004, 09:09 AM
i find it sort of elitist in a way, in the same respect that some abstract artwork can be. its another perfect case of something people will pretend to like beause somebody else says they do even though they actually find it bizarre

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That's one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it would be that these designs are avant-garde (at the forefront), pushing the stale boundaries of fashion. Think about it, if we didn't have the likes of Rei and Yohji who revolutionized the human form, and later the belgians who brought the social reflection and romantic sensibility to fashion - it'd be the same stale prim-and-prpoer sh*t from Paris and tacky and vulgurly sexy garbage from Milan - the same way if it wasn't for the likes of Van Gogh (and even Malevich with his simple Black Square) - we'd still be looking at the inane (albeit skillful) portraits of the Popes, the Generals and Jesus Christ in arts .

 

[Acid]

im not accusing you or anyone here of being that way, im just saying generally that there are a lot of people this way, i know for a fact

some people would find a paper bag fabulous if it was done by the right name.

 

[mikeijames]

Originally posted by Acid@Oct 5 2004, 09:09 AM
i find it sort of elitist in a way, in the same respect that some abstract artwork can be. its another perfect case of something people will pretend to like beause somebody else says they do even though they actually find it bizarre

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remember, it's those pretenders dollars that are keeping many of these brands alive (that and fragrance sales)

 

[softgrey]

Originally posted by Acid@Oct 5 2004, 09:21 AM
im not accusing you or anyone here of being that way, im just saying generally that there are a lot of people this way, i know for a fact

some people would find a paper bag fabulous if it was done by the right name.

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so true...but usually the name is gucci or dior...hence the ******** gucci ice cube trays...

last time i checked ...yohji wasn't making dog collars...

here are some of my faves...very creative and new...

 

[Lena]

Originally posted by Acid@Oct 5 2004, 03:21 PM
some people would find a paper bag fabulous if it was done by the right name.

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so true

not sure i like the yohji collection
(seems like i'm hardly like anything for ss05)

 

[faust]

Originally posted by Acid@Oct 5 2004, 09:21 AM
im not accusing you or anyone here of being that way, im just saying generally that there are a lot of people this way, i know for a fact

some people would find a paper bag fabulous if it was done by the right name.

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oh, well, yea, that goes without saying. however, i would imagine many more of these to be the clients of the likes of Marc Jacobs...

 

[softgrey]

another i like...soft and beautifully romantic...reminds me of miss havisham from great expectations...

the colour reminds me of smoke or fog...which i find really appealing...

 

[softgrey]

i love the draping on this one...so simple and yet not...that's what i love...the illusion of simplicity... it takes a very talented designer to make that work...

i think this is sooooo sexy in a quiet way...the fabric just floats and swirls around the body as you walk....

 

[faust]

Originally posted by softgrey@Oct 5 2004, 09:36 AM
i love the draping on this one...so simple and yet not...that's what i love...the illusion of simplicity... it takes a very talented designer to make that work...

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Exactly!!! How many times have you seen someone not talented or someone trying a cheap knock-off version of the real thing - and you think, no that is NOT it, and you get that feeling of worth of a well-executed item again and again.

 

[softgrey]

faust...do you remember as four???...they tried to do this and i think it was a crashing bore...i'm telling you...i made a dress like that out of a bed sheet for a a halloween costume in college...

this is a 'real' design...much more than as four's nonsense...

 

[softgrey]

oops...dbl post

 

[Sugo]

Originally posted by softgrey@Oct 5 2004, 09:33 AM
another i like...soft and beautifully romantic...reminds me of miss havisham from great expectations...

the colour reminds me of smoke or fog...which i find really appealing...

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you mean a soft grey?

 

[Sugo]

Originally posted by Acid@Oct 5 2004, 08:55 AM
no offence to Yojhi fans but i find this kind of fashion a bit odd and almost pretentious. i cant make any sence out of it or why anyone would find it appealing

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Some people would find this appealing because aesthetics differ and thank G-d for that.

 

[softgrey]

Originally posted by Sugo@Oct 5 2004, 09:46 AM
you mean a soft grey?

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...i guess so...

 

[faust]

Originally posted by softgrey@Oct 5 2004, 09:43 AM
faust...do you remember as four???...they tried to do this and i think it was a crashing bore...i'm telling you...i made a dress like that out of a bed sheet for a a halloween costume in college...

this is a 'real' design...much more than as four's nonsense...

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yep, they are juvenile...

 

[Lena]

Originally posted by softgrey@Oct 5 2004, 03:36 PM
i love the draping on this one...so simple and yet not...that's what i love...the illusion of simplicity... it takes a very talented designer to make that work...

i think this is sooooo sexy in a quiet way...the fabric just floats and swirls around the body as you walk....

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lovely

 

[runner]

Yohji Yamamoto's Poetic Protection

October 05, 2004 - Paris

Nothing sums up the spring summer 2005 Yohji Yamamoto collection better than the show’s soundtrack, a combination of unaccompanied Bach sonatas.

Like the mournful, mordant and occasionally dramatic music, the collection was an exceptional solo effort, demanding great technical expertise and a determined pursuit of excellence.

Yamamoto’s fashion is an intriguing mixture of the poetic and the protective, an extended series of experiments with the odd reference to fashion nostalgia.

“I was inspired, maybe, by Madame Gres,” smiled the reserved and sibylline designer, as a dozen Japanese fashion writers circled him eagerly backstage noting down even the tiniest remarks. For the novice, Gres was famous for her draping of monochromatic asymmetrical robes.

Put simply, one third of the collection were men’s shirts extended into floor length dresses, but of such invention and sleight of hand to be strikingly beautiful. Yamamoto used micro-pleats, braided, twisted and wrapped around the torso to great effect, creating an image that was both Victorian and modern.

Yohji’s other smart move was a group of chiffon dresses in light red and faded lichen. Pulled a tiny bit askew and patched with rumpled clumps of fabric they exuded a great sense of grace. The designer paired all his looks with his latest natty signature sneakers produced by Adidas, which this season came with ribbed back heels and side panels, and toes with tiny white spots. You can just see the copiers printing out this image already this morning in various Third World plants, ripping off the designer who has married sports footwear and apparel better than any.

Some of Yamamoto’s other ideas did not jell so well; lace panels on satin pants and a bunch of bulbous woven attachments merely made the clever casting of models look lumpy.

But we will forgive the master the odd slip. We thought the cellist squawked one note too.

FWD