Alec Baldwin's Threatening Message to Daughter

[Anastasia]

this man is so going to hell!!!
he thinks it is ok to say that the message was not for his daughter, but her mother?!?!? WTF???
this kid will hear that anyway...
he is just a typical hollywood as*hole who thinks he can get away with anything....
i am just glad Kim is keeping a low profile.
she is just protecting her child, and that is why i respect her even more.
great model, great actress, great mother!!!

the only PIG in this case is him!

I agree, karma. And I have heard the message, and do think it's abhorrent, especially in light of his history. This is hardly the first time he's had an angry, violent, verbal blowup. The more I see of his public behavior, the more I believe Kim's claims that he beat her.

Yes, Alec, saying you meant to yell at Kim will make everything better. Nothing endears a father to a daughter's heart more than telling her how much you hate her mother

 

[m.j.]

I just heard the phone message and honestly. WTF. Why are people so mad about it? Has anybody even frickin listened to this? My parents have been FAR madder at me than that. Apart from the 'straighten you out' thing he sounded genuinely upset that he couldn't speak to her. Why is everybody making a big deal out of this? I totally see where he's coming from. Pssh. I hope that everybody here commenting negatively have in fact heard the message. It's so tame. So so tame. And to me it shows affection but hey....

thi is not about the message anymore, but the way this creature plays victin.... that's so pathetic... parents say awful stuff, but he is now doing worse thing, the one thing u should never do if u r divorced.... DO NOT TALK BAD ABOUT THE OTHER PARENT!!!!
i am from a divorced marriage, and i know that my mum told me awful stuff about my father maybe 2 times, and i wanted to kill her, cos it is not a freaking competition!!!! i knew when i was 11 that my father was not a good parent, but not cos myy mum told me, but cos i felt it... actually, i felt he was never there for me. and, it has nth to do with my mother.

this man is just making this girl's childhood worse by appering on tv ad saying, 'oh sweetie i luv you, but i hate your mother...'

 

[m.j.]

I agree, karma. And I have heard the message, and do think it's abhorrent, especially in light of his history. This is hardly the first time he's had an angry, violent, verbal blowup. The more I see of his public behavior, the more I believe Kim's claims that he beat her.

Yes, Alec, saying you meant to yell at Kim will make everything better. Nothing endears a father to a daughters heart than by telling her how much you hate her mother

thank u for making it sound less neurotic, but i was really pis*ed off when i saw him on the view!!!

 

[Anastasia]

I guess this is Kim's fault too, like every other time he's been an explosive, inappropriate *** to his coworkers. Poor Alec:

Baldwin Causes Actress To Quit
http://lawrenkmills.mu.nu/archives/173981.php

 

[misssakura]

thi is not about the message anymore, but the way this creature plays victin.... that's so pathetic... parents say awful stuff, but he is now doing worse thing, the one thing u should never do if u r divorced.... DO NOT TALK BAD ABOUT THE OTHER PARENT!!!!
i am from a divorced marriage, and i know that my mum told me awful stuff about my father maybe 2 times, and i wanted to kill her, cos it is not a freaking competition!!!! i knew when i was 11 that my father was not a good parent, but not cos myy mum told me, but cos i felt it... actually, i felt he was never there for me. and, it has nth to do with my mother.

this man is just making this girl's childhood worse by appering on tv ad saying, 'oh sweetie i luv you, but i hate your mother...'

Yeah but seriously, no offence, it is a competition when the courts are involved. It's a competition when the mother is a neurotic agoraphobic bankrupt hasbeen. It's a competition when the father needs anger management. It's a competition when it has been raging on for over 7 years! Come on, both of them want to be in that child's life. But it's obviously incredibly difficult. I agree that he should not under any circumstance have badmouthed the wife but he's obviously incredibly frustrated. Can't you see that? He's as entitled as the wife to see his child. He did a stupid thing by going public about his feelings. That was the mistake, NOT THE MESSAGE. The message was pretty normal. Nobody should have been bothered by it in the first place, unless all of you are living in lala dreamland

None of this should have been made public, it's so pointless. Jeez it infuriates me. It's made 50 times worse by this ridiculous thing called 'celebrity'.

My boyfriend listened to the call and said "is that all?". He has a really awesome dad, very chill kiwi father, likes gardening, polite, catholic etc. But once, his dad called him a stupid prick. That's worse than pig! Parents get pissed off and stressed out, just like kids can be bratty nuisances. The biggest mistake he made was allowing it to go on voicemail that could be recorded and leaked.

Argh I don't know why this infuriates me so much. I just think it's because the whole situation is so stupid and petty, not worthy of being news of any sort, and also the fact that people seem to be sitting on their high horses as if this sort of behaviour is so completely shocking...it's not.

ARGH.

 

[jml2]

I don't think calling her a pig is the big deal, even though it is what keeps being quoted. The weird parts were
"You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being"
"you have insulted me for the last time"

It's like he doesn't have a concept of her as a child, everyone is an adult out to get him.

 

[smartarse]

not a big deal? it may not be a curse word but calling your child a "pig" is very insulting and downright verbal abusive.

I don't think calling her a pig is the big deal, "You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being"
"you have insulted me for the last time"

 

[Zen]

You know, there are worst fathers out there than Alec Baldwin. Seriously! There are fathers who hurt their child physically in ways fathers should never do! There are fathers who care less what their child does on the weekends and let them stay out til 5 in the morning. There are fathers who don't care and give their child up for adoption. Alec lost his temper, boo-hoo! And it was a mistake in his part to lash out his anger and frustration on his daughter, but I rather have a father who gets upset because I didn't call like I was supposed to because at least I know I have a father who is thinking of me.

 

[Meg]

yeah okay it is verbally abusive. But i'm sorry how many times have your parents or you heard someone tell their kids at the table to 'stop eating like a pig!' honestly parents should be role models but they are also human and they lash out at the wrong people sometimes, just like kids do. It doesn't make it excusable but people need to quit acting like no other parent have ever done this sort of thing because most of them have said it to their kids faces

 

[smartarse]

the word "pig" was said in a more demeaning manner and that's what seperates the quote "don't eat like a pig". which is said in jest or lesser of the two. it is how it's directed is the difference.

first of all Alec is known to have a major temper which is an understatement. every little thing he flairs up that led to mental and physical abuse which he has had with kim throughout their marriage and obviously he carried it his own child.

another thing, just last year when there was a helicopter crash into an apartment in nyc carrying a Yankee player they barricaded almost 3 blocks off.... Alec , tyical Alec, began his ranting and was a lunatic beyond words when the police refused his entry. the man is a lunatic. i'm surprised he hasn't given himself an angina.

 

[MulletProof]

You know, there are worst fathers out there than Alec Baldwin. Seriously! There are fathers who hurt their child physically in ways fathers should never do! There are fathers who care less what their child does on the weekends and let them stay out til 5 in the morning. There are fathers who don't care and give their child up for adoption. Alec lost his temper, boo-hoo! And it was a mistake in his part to lash out his anger and frustration on his daughter, but I rather have a father who gets upset because I didn't call like I was supposed to because at least I know I have a father who is thinking of me.

I do think it's just silly to "satanize" Alec Baldwin as the worst father out there, it sounds very hollywood media to me but ..mental abuse can be just as harmful as physical abuse, and if done with severe malice.. it can be worse in some cases. of course he's only human and we'll all see our own fate when we become parents and realise how hard it must be to handle ourselves in front of our children.. however, like jml2 says, he doesn't seem to have grasped entirely the fact that he's not dealing with an adult, he's dealing with a pre-teen.. and pre-teens can be a NIGHTMARE but that's when you take your position as a grown-up, I don't think "losing your temper" is an excuse, it's just about being who you are and not acting more on your daughter's friends' level of maturity when it comes to arguments..

honestly, I'm not very impressed with the 'pig' insult.. I think it's more disturbing the "You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being".. I think that, with a bit of wit, a simple insult like 'pig' cannot even reach the consequences a phrase like that can have sometimes on kids, teenagers or anyone that's still going through a vulnerable phase.. seriously, that's why some people have committed suicide.. it's not just any phrase.. it can shrink the self-esteem of someone, and it's most likely to sound particularly credible when it's coming from your own parents that supposedly know you better than anybody else.

 

[Anastasia]

There's a lot of speculation out there that it was Ireland herself who leaked the tape to the tabloids, because she doesn't want to have anything to do with him. Kim was being held in contempt for interfering with Alec's visitation (though if my child was court ordered to visit her father, who had beat me, and talked to her like that, I'd happily be held in contempt to prevent it from happening) but now the judge has suspended his rights, because of this, and who knows what else. I guess "My b*tch ex-wife made me do it! Nothing's my fault! Feel sorry for me!" doesn't fly in some circles.

I'm making an assumption on him being an abusive freak, based on a tirade he made on a RECORDING DEVICE, coupled with his frequent public outbursts of verbal and physical violence - if he's like that in public, how much worse is he behind closed doors? I don't get this 'it was a one time thing, not so bad, get over it, give him a father of the year medal for loving her so much, he's a saint at every moment but this one, my parents also showed me they loved me by telling me I wasn't fit to be a human being' train of thought when we can see that this is hardly out of character for him.

 

[Assembler]

I think he should just give up on seeing her.

Why not just give bassinger all the custody rights, stop visitations completed, and move on with your life. Ireland doesn't seem all that interested in interacting with him.

Sure it's tough to do if you love her, but honestly, it would probably be so much healthier for him just to cut them (Ireland and Kim) out of his life. Fall in love with someone, start a new familyl, and forget the one that has caused all this pain.

 

[PrinceOfCats]

There's a lot of speculation out there that it was Ireland herself who leaked the tape to the tabloids

Wow, let's not question that source...

 

[canuckcutie]

"Why not just give bassinger all the custody rights, stop visitations completed, and move on with your life. Ireland doesn't seem all that interested in interacting with him.'

All this stems from the fact that she won't let him see the child though. In their custody agreement, if Kim was going to be away working then Alec would get custody but Kim repeatedly violated that order and wouldn't let him see Ireland. So basically you are saying that Kim should be rewarded for her behavior. In fact I do believe she has been charged for repeatedly violating/ignoring the custody agreement.

 

[SpookyGirl]

I honestly can't believe some people here are actually defending this man. Calling his daughter a 'pig' is not a big deal? 'He's just stressed out'?! I mean sure, my mother has said worst things to me but it's not because of that that i find it acceptable! Are you going to talk to your kids like this?!

 

[Anastasia]

Wow, let's not question that source...

I didn't say it was a fact. I said it was speculation.

speculation
noun1. a message expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence [syn: guess] 2. a hypothesis that has been formed by speculating or conjecturing (usually with little hard evidence); "speculations about the outcome of the election"; "he dismissed it as mere conjecture"

I have seen, in the last week, multiple people on multiple message boards, as well as heard discussion in real life among friends and aquaintances (and no, I am not introducing the subject or the idea - this is the first place I have mentioned it - talking about the possibility.

I was unaware that on a gossip message board I needed to post sources for something clearly labeled as speculation.

 

[tuttyfruit]

my mom has said worse things to me before.... like one day when we had a huuuuuge fight she literally told me how much she despised me and wished she never conceived me.... and some other intense stuff like telling me to move out and go to a shelter, etc

those moments were very devastating to me and i remember i cried uncontrollably... im still hurt from that but i know my mom loves me unconditionally and that she never meant to say those things....

 

[Zen]

I can't believe what some of you are saying! "He should give up and move on with his life?" Hell no! Alec fight for your daughter and never give up on her! LOL Kim Basinger has some skeletons in the closet of her own.... Both parents aren't perfect, nobody is!

 

[canuckcutie]

" was unaware that on a gossip message board I needed to post sources for something clearly labeled as speculation."

You don't, some posters here are just like to throw their weight around. BTW I've heard that same speculation on other boards. I think it more likely that Kim leaked it or that if Ireland leaked it that her mom encouraged her to do so.

Yeah I don't think Alec should throw in the towel either. Then Kim is being rewarded for deliberately keeping her daughter from her father. I'm not condoning what Alec said but none us of know what kind of father he is and it is unfair to judge 11 yr's worth of parenting based on 1 phone call.