Anna Nicole Smith Dies at 39

[FashionJunkie]

If you read my post i said that if they killed her ok. That means that she did nothing wrong. But if she commited suicide it was wrong because she had a child depending on her. I was the only one caring about the child but i have no respect for life..go figure.
Even if she died or she commited suicide it's was a person who died, i never said that i don't respect her or i hate her, i JUST SAID that it WAS UNFORGIVABLE AND UTTERLY WRONG because she didn't care about her child.

 

[BaroqueRockstar]

BaroqueRockstar NO NO NO NO, by so what i don't mean don't care, i mean that it cannot be changed and you should move on. Of course you will cry and you will be sad, but you can't stop your life. That's what i meant.

isn't that essentially saying you shouldn't care anymore?
nothing will bring her back to life, obviously, but by knowing the circumstances of her death, the world can learn something. history repeats itself because people move on too quickly...

 

[Faith Akiyama]

^^You can't make assumptions about these things (Such as she simply didn't care)...

http://www.womenshealth.gov/faq/postpartum.htm

Add to those factors the pressures of the mass media, the court cases, her inescapable past...

 

[BaroqueRockstar]

If you read my post i said that if they killed her ok. That means that she did nothing wrong. But if she commited suicide it was wrong because she had a child depending on her. I was the only one caring about the child but i have no respect for life..go figure.
Even if she died or she commited suicide it's was a person who died, i never said that i don't respect her or i hate her, i JUST SAID that it WAS UNFORGIVABLE AND UTTERLY WRONG because she didn't care about her child.

people who commit or attempt suicide are victims to their environment and situation. it's absolutely not fair to lay all blame on them.
you can't say she didn't care about her child. suicidal people usually think the world would be a better place without me. if anything she probably thought she would make a bad mother, a mentality brought up by the fact her son just died.

 

[FashionJunkie]

It's not that you don't care, of course you will care it was your child that died, but you can't stop your life, or you can't stop living because life goes on, you have other people that need you, your parents, your other kids, your friends. You just try to get yourself together, because that's what you have to do. You can care while you raise your kids, you can care while you do grocery shopping. Why is it that you care when you cry your eyes out, and when you move on you don't care? Please explain me that

 

[BaroqueRockstar]

^who's crying their eyes out? we're simply trying to be respectful

 

[FashionJunkie]

So if you think you are a bad mother you abandon your child? And please i NEVER SAID that cuicidal people are bad persons and they commit suicide because their nail broke. I understand that they suffer deeply, but still when you are a mother you have to think your child. I don't hate her, i have nothing against Anna. ONLY THE ACTION OF LEAVING YOU CHILD BEHIND ALONE.

 

[FashionJunkie]

Why do you think that saying move on it's disrespectful? I don't get that. Because that means that ALL the people who lost parents, kids etc and got on with their lifes are disrespectful

 

[Faith Akiyama]

^She was moving on -- why else was she in Florida and enjoying herself or continuing her battle against the Marshalls? Yes, she cared so much about her son's death (She already cried her eyes out), we all already know that. But if she cared so much about one child, how can anyone insinuate that she didn't regard her other children with the same attitude? Perhaps it's true, perhaps it's not, but to speculate upon either side of the issue with such sureness is not in anyone's ability to do.

Put yourself in her moccasins. Moving on is still easier said than done...

ETA: Please stop generalizing.

 

[snowqueen]

^^ tbh i dont think u ever move on its just ways of dealing with things and a brave face etc

 

[Anastasia]

you can't say she didn't care about her child. suicidal people usually think the world would be a better place without me. if anything she probably thought she would make a bad mother, a mentality brought up by the fact her son just died.

Exactly. It's not about who has had to deal with worse things in life, and how some people kill themselves and others don't. It's about individual brain chemistry and biology, and how some people are not built as strongly. Some people are born with weak joints or a weak heart, some people are predisposed to developing an auto-immune disorder, and some people are likely candidates for clinical depression.

FashionJunkie, I do understand what you are trying to say. And if depression was not a disease I might agree with you to a certain extent (though I'd probably word it more softly But mental illness is deeply misunderstood. Someone who is clinically depressed is not thinking logically or rationally. It is impossible. They cannot not be "selfish". Indeed, almost all suicidal people think they're being incredibly self-less. They truly, honestly, deeply, with every fiber of their being, believe that they are thinking rationally, and they still come to the overwhelming conclusion that the world - family, friends, and babies included - would be better off without them. They believe that people will be sad for a little while, but that things will be so much easier/better without them around, that it'll all be worth it. I know this from personal experience. It is a delusion, but when you are experiencing it, it is incredibly real. And you are in so much anguish, so much emotional pain that it feels physical, you feel like you are literally drowning in pain. All you can see is the bad things you bring to the world, even if people are right there telling you it isn't true, that they love you and need you. You can't believe it to be true, because your brain isn't functioning properly and needs to be medicated.

You can't rationalize yourself out of a broken arm, and you can't rationalize yourself out of clinical depression. If you've ever been able to talk yourself out of being depressed, it was not clinical. It is different from other forms. There is no way to know who will get it, or what will trigger it. But once its there, you need medical help and intervention to overcome and treat it. Willpower and thinking of your loved ones and what they need often works against you, because you really, honestly do think everything would be fine if you just weren't there anymore.

 

[Ceptuouse]

i just want to say i am really sad for anna nicole- she was one of lifes characters who kept us entertained and now has died tragically young. she must of been really sad after her son died and perhaps he was one of few people she could trust. i am so sad for her little girl who has lost a mum who no dobt adored her. i know it is no any consolation but at least she is with daniel . god bless all of them .

 

[FashionJunkie]

I'm not judging HER faith akiyama. Just the action. I never said she doesn't care about her kids, i don't know her, i can't say that. I only said that the action (blah blah) is self centered and so wrong because of her other child. AND once more if it wasn't for the child i wouldn't post anything.

 

[Yasmin]

ANS was controversial in life, so it is fitting that she be controversial in death, as well. I find there are pieces of truth in almost everything I've read by everyone here. One thing I think we all feel is that this is a sad ending to a sad story, for all parties and especially the little baby.

 

[snowqueen]

i just want to say i am really sad for anna nicole- she was one of lifes characters who kept us entertained and now has died tragically young. she must of been really sad after her son died and perhaps he was one of few people she could trust. i am so sad for her little girl who has lost a mum who no dobt adored her. i know it is no any consolation but at least she is with daniel . god bless all of them .

finally back on topic ... thats what i first thort at least shes with her son away from all the hurt and pain
and fashion junkie why dont you keep the arguements .. well disagreements to pm's

 

[Faith Akiyama]

^^^And I'm sure Dannielynn will appreciate those comments of yours about a mother's selfishness when she grows up...

*Sigh* Sorry mods, enough of this from me -- back to the matter at hand.

 

[FashionJunkie]

Anastasia i didn't know she was clinicaly depressed and i understand everything you are saying. I don't think that all suiciders are clinically depressed (and that doesn't mean that i claim that she wasn't). That's a different story. I have to say once more that it wasn't a personal attack to ANNA, it was her action that made me furious.

 

[FashionJunkie]

And for all of you who thought that i was disrespectful and i didn't care about her death or her sons, do you think that there is ONE person out there who's happy for someone's death or loss? I think that NOT ONLY you just jumped to conclusion, but also you thought of something completely mean and inhuman.

 

[Echoes]

^what's disrespectful?

Pretty much everything about your posts and the fact that you continue to belabor your point (whatever it is) after so many people have complained about it.



I agree, your posts should be removed from this thread as argumentative and outside the spirit of TFS.

 

[sofialuv]

If they murdered her ok, but if she commited suicide it's pathetic. She has a little baby, she can't be THAT self-centered. She lost her son, SO WHAT? Suck it up, that's life, deal with it.

How old are you?...clearly not old enough to even grasp at the tought of what must be to loose someone you love, more so a son.