I nominate Mel Ottenberg lmao
There's not an editor alive who could fill the shoes of Anna Wintour. I doubt there's an upside to this, I'm afraid it's only going to be downhill from here. Truly an end of an era!
Vogue Editors have always consulted as a side-hustle. Never cheap. They make more money consulting than from Condé Nast(y).He has his own consulting company, that what he's always wanted, I can't see him taking the job just now.
I nominate Mel Ottenberg lmao
There's not an editor alive who could fill the shoes of Anna Wintour. I doubt there's an upside to this, I'm afraid it's only going to be downhill from here. Truly an end of an era!
I stand with you!I stand corrected. I forgot about Baron! God, what a dream that would be. Never going to happen, though.
There's not an editor alive who could fill the shoes of Anna Wintour. I doubt there's an upside to this, I'm afraid it's only going to be downhill from here. Truly an end of an era!
I can't blame Anna Wintour for having the self-interest to ensure she didn't have any competition to oust her, but in playing that game of chess, Conde Nast are now in the position of not having cultivated enough talent to have serious contenders to choose from.
I'm curious what you think about this current print resurgence we've been seeing (I'm thinking of the glossy bi-annual magazines that I see now that are as thick as phone books) and what, if anything, that means for the overall print landscape. Do you think mainstream mags would adopt any of this to survive in the future? For example, reduce frequency to a quarterly and truly make it a luxury product, with the rest of its resources being spent online?You summed up my thoughts.. I'm happy she's beginning to fade a little because she really represents the dark side of fashion that decimates competition like a vulture, and manipulates talent only for the benefit of her own product, and certainly exiled it and isolated it if you dared crossing her. That old guard will leave for natural reasons but if they could do it in a dignified way and not as if they were politicians (aka on their deathbed), that would be help the industry a lot!
On the other hand, the product itself (a magazine) is archaic, it's just not going to last so I'm not expecting any new chapter to mean anything. I think the damage is done. Hopefully the absence will bring in oxygen that will open up new creative opportunities for a new generation, not in this company but in terms of how they sell fashion to audiences.
I totally agree. For better or worse, Anna is a once-in-a-generation figure in the media world. And her career certainly could not be replicated again now. Truly the end of an era.It’s a bit similar to what happened at Essence magazine.
Ultimately, I think it’s maybe more fun for Anna to organize events around Vogue than to deal with the day to day issues of the magazine.
I have tremendous respect for her.
For better or worse, she became an authority in fashion and culture and her taste shaped in some ways fashion as it is today.
Vogue the magazine hasn’t been really my taste since 2009 but for me her legacy is in the talents she championed. I don’t know if she loves fashion but she really supported /loved designers, sometimes against suits.
For me, the question is not even about competition. I think she made her position be so much than what it was than it became too much. She was ambitious and her ambition grew as her power grew. Being the EIC of Vogue comes with so much baggage, corporatism than you can’t nurture that type of talent.
In the 90’s, Liz was kind of a competition because it was magazines against magazines. Vogue and Bazaar were toe to toe.
I think US Vogue will suffer. Even an Edward doesn’t have that aura. And from the POV of a magazine, I don’t know how Vogue US, with American Puritanism, conservatism, corporatism and such celebrity-obsessed culture could really be refreshed.
I don’t think US Vogue should have as a leading voice an ex-stylist. It may compromise the power dynamic. I think that the fact that Anna never worked for a brand gave her an added aura that ultimately, stylists turned EIC didn’t have. And it allowed her to have relations with CEOs instead.
you're asking the least qualified person 🥲... @tigerrouge knows best!I'm curious what you think about this current print resurgence we've been seeing (I'm thinking of the glossy bi-annual magazines that I see now that are as thick as phone books) and what, if anything, that means for the overall print landscape. Do you think mainstream mags would adopt any of this to survive in the future? For example, reduce frequency to a quarterly and truly make it a luxury product, with the rest of its resources being spent online?