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I have nothing against plus-size models, but if they want to really make a competition, just have another show called Australia's Next Top Plus-Size Model or something. Because if you think about it, it is not fair to have a plus-size model competing in there, as they go to different casting, etc. For example, imagine if the final two is one normal model and one plus-size model, how can they go to the fashion week casting? Just things like that. The market is different. No matter how they try to sugar-coat things, if the show aim to produce successful high fashion model, plus-size model just won't cut it, as they won't fit into the sample size and designers won't bother with them. If they want plus-size model, just have another show that focuses on them, but don't mix them as their work is mostly different.

Plus, isn't Alex Perry the most realistic judge in AusNTM? I imagine he can have a big debate with Sarah Murdoch about that. I hope he stay on the show though, he's the most funtastic judge with his snarky comment in AusNTM.

As he said before:
Asked what he thinks about the US version’s efforts to promote plus-size models, [Perry] snorts with derision: “Get. Over. It. Get over it. They haven’t got an Alice. In how many seasons? You know what? You can wrap up that fat model story anyway you want - they’re not meant to be.”
 
she's an australian model, 17 years old, from Queensland who auditioned for the latest season of autralia's next top model but was rejected by casting directors for not having what they thought was top model potential.

Myf Shepherd then went on to walk the Spring/Summer 09 shows, walking for all the big shows including Chanel, Fendi, Dior, Prada, Gucci, Balenciaga, Hermes, Galliano, Jil Sander, Marc Jacobs... She had a great season for a newcomer, and a much better first season than anyone that has come out of Australia's next top model, including Alice Burdeu the winner of the 3rd season who has become mildly famous, but not as quickly as Myf did.

here is her thread; click

Thank you!
 
oh god!! why!! this is why i hate ntm...eveything with them becomes a cultural issue...and honestly..the show really drifts away from the main purpose..to find the next high fashion working model!!!
and honestly being a size zero...is nothing be ashamed of! there is nothing unhealthy abt being...32-32,24,33-35...
some people have those sort of body frames..and are perfect for the fashion industry...

god ...honestly jodhi was enough...and now they have this sarah murdoch creature!!!
i wish elle mcphereson would host the show!!! or even kirstie clements!! she knows what s in!! or only by alex perry!
 
Ugh, I really dislike Kirstie Clements: she's so scary and cold and I can't say I'm a huge fan of Vogue Australia so that doesn't bolster my opinion of her. I think we should wait to see how Sarah does on the show before judging her.
 
i don't like kirsty clements as an editor and i don't buy vogue australia, but i think her, priscilla, alex perry (and it pains me to say it) napoleon perdis are the only ones on that show with any real knowledge of the fashion industry. This is not including sarah murdoch or the upcoming season, but the previous seasons.

This can be seen clearly in the 3rd cycle of which Alice B was the winner. Throughout the season judges were playing favourites, especially Jodhi, and Steph and Jordan were the clear favourites. Well that's great. Jordan won Australia's favourite model... Whatever. NTM is not a popularity contest, at least, it shouldn't be. It should be about finding modelling talent and giving them the chance to become a real top model. Kirsty Clements showed that she actually understands fashion when she gave her vote in the finale to Alice, stating that she was tall, thin, had a face the camera loves and a personal style that was seriously enviable... perfect model material.

As much as i dislike Kirsty, and Napoleon (*shudder*) i think that they are both necessary, along with Alex, to provide a fashion voice of reason on that panel of judges clearly chosen for their entertainment value and not their knowledge of fashion. Hopefully in this upcoming season they return to the form of the third season and find someone really worth supporting as australia's next top model, and i'm sure having sarah instead of jodhi will be a much needed improvement.

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oh, and sorry for the double post, but on the subject of plus-size models, i totally agree fuune. it would be difficult to cater to both the market for plus-size models and normal models during the fashion week episode, and they would be unable to compete fairly against each other in such an episode. Unless they change the format of the show, and i hope they don't because i think it works really well, then having plus-size models would be extremely problematic, logistics wise.
 
Oh, I definitely agree that Kirstie is necessary and more realistic, it just doesn't make me like her.

And Napoleon really IS foul isn't he? And, I've probably mentioned it before, but how similar is he to that Simpsons character who's had a stroke and talks kind of funny? From memory, I think he's a salesman or something...

And I agree with Funne too: that would make much, much more sense.
 
napoleon makes me sick to my stomach.
me and my sister were looking at a photo of him in a magazine the other day and she was like 'and that's why you shouldn't have plastic surgery.'

:rofl: yes! the guy in the simpsons who is like 'ayessss'... i remember him in a restaurant too, like the maitre d.

but yes, napoleon may be the weirdest thing... but by god can the man do make up!
 
That's the guy. And maybe I got his occupation wrong. But the voice and the looks are Napoleon all over. :lol:

Yes, but his ad campaigns are gross. I always hate his ads, even the ones with the Top Model girls.
 
Yes Napoleon can do makeup, but I wish someone else do his makeup! He looks like an orange pumpkin in a shiny limy green jacket in the finale of season 4. Stop tanning dear Napoleon.

I actually like KC because she's a bit different from the typical Anna/Carine fashion editor. She's more plain, but still looks sophisticated. But for Vogue Aus, yes I don't like the fact that Vogue Aus reprint editorials and such. Also they even have a forum, ask unnecessary question like (paraphrased) Catherine & Miranda: Who is a more Seafolly girl? uhh... But then I think it's understandable that Vogue Aus is like that, as the Australian market is different than Vogue Ita/French/etc, plus they try to reach more wider audiences by doing that, but still... :( Kinda cheapens the brand IMHO.

As a judge, like Alex Perry, she knows what a model should be. They have the knowledge. I say whoever Alex Perry/KC choose in the final, should automatically win. :rofl: As a designer, even if I don't necessarily like his work, he kinda represents what kind of model a designer would love to hire. While KC, she represents what kind of model Vogue likes to be in their magazines.

For the mentor, ugh, I dislike Jonathan Pease. Me thinks he doesn't know sh*t. (Sorry for my choice of word) His choose for the final, cycle 3 he chose Steph H, cycle 4 he chose Demelza. From what I see from the show and Jonathan's judgement in the official website, he seems to like the kind of model Jodhi likes. The swimwear models. In Jonathan's judgment, by my observations, he has a tendency to give swimsuit pictures higher rating. Too bad he will stay in the show. I wish he left together with Jodhi.

All this plus-size talk from Sarah scares me. Don't turn into Tyra! Based on what I read from the official forum, they seem pretty lenient with the weight/size this time. Let's face it, if this show wants to maintain credibility, they need to have a winner that can actually work to the level of top model. AusNTM is only a reality show, even though they want to change the fashion industry, they can't. And if they try to do so, they will only be a joke in the fashion industry ala ANTM. Isn't top model supposed to do both high fashion and commercial? Plus-size model will stick to catalog and commercial only, they won't be able to do high fashion. After winning ANTM C10, what work has Whitney done? MLAACG doesn't count. Her win doesn't matter to the fashion industry. I can only hope for Priscilla, KC, and Alex Perry will stay to their senses till the end. Fox8, don't listen to the voices in official forum that wanted plus-size models, because most are people who doesn't have the knowledge of modeling.
 
I know! what a great post fuune... ANTM got all this credibility post Alice B, and then Demelza, and lets give credit where credit is due, got that ferrero rocher campaign, but hasn't walked for Marc Jacobs or Christian Lacroix like Alice has. I know there was a lot of talk about Kirsty leaving following the Demelza debacle but i'm glad that she hasn't and that she has chosen to continue with the show, it is her input that raises the tone of the show to a high fashion level. So she may not be Carine but she does know what she's talkign about. The episodes with her in it are by far my favourite, as she quizzes the models about what vogue means, and the trends of the season... these are all things that the girls are going to need to know!!!

I think Demelza is gorgeous, but i didn't want her to win. It wasn't because of the Alamela thing, to be frank, she's only 16, i know 16 year olds who have done much much worse. It's because after Alice i wanted a winner who would reach similar levels in the fashion world and actually become a NEXT TOP MODEL, unlike many of the people to receive such an exalted title. I didn't like Alex, but between Demelza and her, i wanted it to be Alex. I think it's clear who the model with the most potential in the fashion world based on who the judges with the knowledge vote for. Kirsty, Priscilla and Alex Perry all voted for Alex.

IMO it is the opinion of the modelling agency director, the editor of a big fashion magazine, the designer, and the mammoth make up brand owner, that really matters. For me, whether or not the girls look good in swim suits is by the by. Kirsty's comments of KNOW YOUR FASHION, alex's comments about weight, priscilla's about appearance and napoleon's about skin and how to present yourself are some of the most important that the models will ever get... even if they are a little harsh they are nothing on what they would receive from agents had they not been on the show.

In regards to the weight issue, they have always said that they welcome any body type. Last season a friend of mine tried out for the show and i went with her to the auditions and helped her fill in the application form. On the form in the section about details on weight there was a disclaimer saying that the show welcomes all body types that are over the height range. But at the actual auditions you should have seen the faces on Jodhi and Alex when some of the plus-size models came out onto the runway. They were not big by any stretch of the imagination, but i'm willing to be that Jodhi was imagining them in her perfect (and overpriced) swimwear and was cringing.

Sarah seems to want to promote the show as a caring environment for future models, i think she said she wanted to 'mentor' and 'nurtur' the girls in who weekly... Sarah, why? If you coddle them like this when they get into the real world they will be torn to shreds and they won't know what to do with themselves. Don't be distant, but don't make them think that everyone in the fashion industry is going to act like their big sister/mother.

After producing a winner like Alice i wouldn't want AusNTM to throw it all away this season. Hopefully they keep up their standards of judging, show content and models.
 
I'm a bit too passionate about AusNTM because I have hopes that they will produce another winner like Alice Burdeu. But maybe we do, after Alice, put the show to a much higher standard than it deserves. Maybe another Alice just won't happen, but as long as the show doesn't become the big joke like ANTM, I will enjoy the show just fine. :)

I agree with you peachescream, I don't like Demelza as a person, but that won't affect my opinion on her regarding her modeling work. But to be fair, her modeling ability isn't that good either. I'm sure that Priscilla understands this too, that's why she didn't send Demelza internationally yet, because she knows that Demelza will just flunk if she sends her right now. That age thing is just a reason to the media. However, to correct you, Priscilla chose Demelza instead of Alex in the final. Probably she thought that in the long run, she can be an asset according to how the agency can make it work for her. She probably thought that Alex is more ready, but Alex doesn't really have the potential to make it really big.

KC/Vogue Aus does provide the show much more credibility. That's why they should value her opinion~ The Australia will also vote for the final is such sh*t. They should stick to fan favorite and leave it at there. General public doesn't know anything about modeling industry, so they shouldn't choose the winner. I hope you are right about the plus-size models though, that they only talk regarding wanting plus-size models but won't really cast them for the show.

Anyway, more about season 5:

They are looking for blank canvas look.


Louise Pollard (19) and Emma Sengstock (19) from Brisbane

"It's no disrespect to Erica (Haynatz) who's a friend and Jodhi (Meares) who I worked with for two years and is calm and wonderful, but Sarah comes with a bona fide modelling CV and is really passionate about the show."
Oh I love you Charlotte. I thought you were only a poor man's Janice D, you prove me wrong. It's like she's saying "No offense to the previous hosts, but their modelling credibility is just sh*tty compared to Sarah" :rofl:

Apparently they sent home the girls who are looking too skinny... Will they turn another Alice away?
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Some behind the scenes pictures from the audition...


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Here's a video from the audition. Alex Perry said he's looking for the perfect specimen.

Sydney audition


Some auditionees...

Adele Thiel, she's signed with Scene Models. She has been turned away last season though, so...



Alice with Mia Farrow hair cut might look like this girl, Eve Smith. I think I'll root for her and Adele, based on these pictures only.



Natalie Muissen


Jess Thompson


Kirby DeLaney


Adriana Perabo


Source: AusNTM LJ/Getty Images
 
:flower: Thanks for the pics fuune. sarah murdoch sure is gorgeous isn't she?

did you read the article in who weekly on friday? they had the pictures of sarah in that lovely top and followed the girl in the 6th picture in your first post wearing the pink top and black jumper... apparently she made it through to the second round.

The girls from Brisbane are interesting... certainly blank canvas. I suppose they have potential, but it's so hard to tell. I'd love to know the criteria that they use to pick the girls, and which ones they leave out. Because how they could reject myf (although to her benefit, she stormed the catwalks this season) is beyond me... I know they look for drama potential and personality too. Ah! I'd love to see an audition episode like in ANTM, although not so laboriously presented (one cycle had 3 audition episodes... just get to the damn final 13 already!!!).

Ah charlotte... not just a b.itchy face! she's annoying, but it wouldn't be the same without her. Who would fight with alex? That's really funny what she said about Erika and Jodhi, although i reckon she was annoyed that she didn't get the gig. still, she's much better where she is. as the host she wouldn't be able to say half the things that she gets to say as a judge.

I am excited for this season, a new host... a new beginning? Like cycle 3. *fingers crossed* for an amazing array of girls with HIGH FASHION and COMMERCIAL potential. that is of the utmost importance. I get all proud and happy when i see alice walking for big designers, i want more AusNTM winners to do exactly the same.
 
oooh, after i posted that, you uploaded more great pictures!

right off the bat i love eve's look. she is gorgeous, what a face!
i also like adele and kirby, although that pout looks a little forced.
wow, if these pics are anything to go by, it should be a good season!
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FUUNE. demelza has been to NY already and was told to lose weight to go back there. thats why she didnt go.all the PR in the world wont make this girl a top model.gemma from season 1 was already working solidly from the moment the show finished and alice... well i dont need to say anything there!
 
AUSTRALIA'S biggest modelling competition just got a little bigger.

For the first time in five seasons, television model search Australia's Next Top Model is looking for a "plus-size" winner – and they may have found one in Adelaide.

Madeleine Hahn, 19, from the Barossa Valley, was one of 19 girls to make it through the first round of Adelaide auditions at the Richmond Hotel on Thursday.

At a size 16 to 18, she's four to five dress sizes above the "typical" model's eight to 10 size.

"I heard they were looking for plus-sized models this year, and I just thought I may as well have a go," she said.

"I was fairly confident, but I'm pretty happy in my own skin so if I didn't get through it wasn't going to kill me."

The show is clearly following in the footsteps of parent program America's Next Top Model, which crowned its first plus-size winner, Whitney Thompson, in May.

The bubbly, blonde, 21-year-old size 12 beat 13 other "traditional" models to win the crown.

But Australian judge Charlotte Dawson says while she is encouraging "normal-size" girls to enter, they will have to work harder than their American counterparts.

"Firstly, I hate the words `plus size' – they're `normal size', it's dumb," she said. "But the only problem I have is that the winner of Australia's Next Top Model needs to go out immediately and work, and there's not a lot of plus-sized work available in Australia.

"In America, there's a huge market so it's reasonable to have a plus-sized model win the competition. But you can hardly crown someone Australia's Next Top Model and send them off to do a Target catalogue."

Paige Whitehead, 22, travelled to Adelaide this week especially to audition for the show after missing the Victorian round. At 190cm and a size 10 to 12, she was shocked to hear she'd made the cut – as a plus size contender.

"I didn't think about it until they told me. I was like `Oh, I'm plus size'," she said.

The fashion industry has come under fire in recent years for glamorising super-thin models, drawing criticism that it promotes eating disorders and an unhealthy body image.

Federal Youth Minister Kate Ellis is leading the charge, ordering the development of a new code of conduct requiring magazines to feature normal-sized models and disclose the use of digitally enhanced photos.

Earlier this month, Channel 7's model search Make Me a Supermodel caused a furore when 18-year-old Adelaide girl Sheridan Seekamp was told to slim down from 70kg if she wanted to win the competition.

And Australia's Next Top Model has not been without similar controversy. Last year's winner, 17-year-old Demelza Reveley, was also told she needed to lose weight.

It would seem this year's season of Australia's Next Top Model is attempting to address the issue, something, Hahn says, is well overdue. "It's pretty ridiculous – the average size for an Australian woman is a size 14, and that's definitely not the size of models . . . at the auditions," she said.

"The fashion industry needs to catch up with the times. We're getting bigger and they're getting smaller."

When it comes to defining "plus size", however, it seems opinions are divided. A spokeswoman from Priscilla's Model Management, which provides a contract to the Australia's Next Top Model winner, defined plus size as "size 12 or larger".

But Adelaide model agent Tanya Powell says that's incorrect, defining the term as "size 14 or over".

Most Australian fashion designers use size eight models for their catwalk shows, including designer and Next Top Model judge Alex Perry, who may well be the only opponent of the new direction.
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Please tell me this isn't true. :cry: Alex Perry, tell me there will be no plussie. Just make a new show called Australia's Next Top Plus-Size Models, please! But don't mix them up!

BTW, 190 cm? Models are supposed to be tall, but I think 190 cm is a bit too tall. For my own choice of models, the perfect model height is about 178-180 cm. If I am not mistaken, Valentijn had to quit being a model because she reached 190 cm and considered too tall. Even Alice who is 188 cm(correct me if I'm wrong), have to shorten herself in her show card. But then, Alice is a fluke. She's made to be a model and was a clear winner.

And now I have to endure watching the plus-size drama that will ensue on the show. ANTM all over again? I hope not. Alex Perry! Kirstie Clements! Priscillia! I'm counting on you guys!
1. If there's a look-book shooting for Alex Perry, I think he will have a heart attack of having to put plussie in his clothes.
2. I'm not sure KC will be thrilled with the idea of putting plus-size models on Vogue. How pedestrian will Vogue Aus be?
3. Priscillia knows for sure that a top model won't be a plussie. If she wants girl that can give money to her agency, she won't keep the plussie. Not to mention the plus-size modeling industry in Australia is different than in US, in Aus it's almost non-existant.
4. Um, what will happen to the finals of going to fashion week casting? No designers there will book the plussie.
5. How about their international destination of visiting the international agencies? YO! If the show doesn't send girls with potential, they will be considered mall rats ala ANTM. They need to send them to meet big agencies that can be interested in them, such as IMG/Women. (Interesting enough, in cycle 4 the show doesn't send them to IMG/Women... Only Elite, Marilyn, MCSquared)
6. Yes, yes. The average size of Australian women is 14. But this show is about modeling, not Australia's Next Top Australian Woman. Precisely why not everyone can become a model (or top model for this matters). As I said before, no matter what the show do to change the industry, it won't matter, except that the show will be labeled as a joke.
7. When the show is labeled as a joke, I feel sorry for the girls that join the show with potential of becoming a model and is shafted. It can hurt their career chances.
8. D'uh haven't they learnt from ANTM? The show is already considered a big joke in the fashion industry, don't follow the footsteps! What has Whitney done since winning ANTM anyway? Baking cakes in her fake New York apartment in her MLAACG segments? :doh:
9. At least Charlotte is a bit realistic that a plussie will struggle hard in the industry. I'm hoping you won't be replaced by that Tozzi girl. I hope Jonathan will.
10. Plus-size models won't do high fashion. Catalogue/Commercial only.
11. If they are looking for role models instead of girls that can actually be a top model, change the show title to be Australia's Next Role Model.
12. Let's see if Sarah Murdoch will really be Tyra version 2.

I hope they will go back to the right path or I have to say adios to AusNTM. :ninja: I need to stop now or this thread will be full of my blahblahblahblahblah. :shock:
 
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