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Bottega Veneta S/S 2024 Milan

I must be the minority because I see almost no issue with the fact SOME of it looks heavy. Climates lately change at the drop of a hat, a store's selection should somewhat represent that. I also really do not think this is any heavier than say Celiné SS18. If you pulled out some of the knits in this collection, really what's the issue. I think for the first time in a very, very, very long time we're actually watching the rise of a really great new designer. Felt like such a nice journey watching this in motion too. Major love for this collection and I hope he has a long tenure at BV
 
I absolutely didn't like it when I saw the pictures first, now I've seen the video and despite certain flaws, I found it the most interesting collection of Milan this season.
He's definitely a right fit for the brand and I love his obsession with materials, texture and tactility but at this point he's way overdoing it. Forget about Daniel Lee, he maybe needs to have another look at Tomas Maier's work actually, whose work was rich and sumptuous but almost always elegant and 'lighter'.
Since it's probably the main source of revenue, I think the bags are simply fabulous and probably highly unaffordable.

I read Matthieu is now styling his own collections which is usually not a good idea. A little distance and a set of fresh eyes is really required and a good stylist could tone it down a little. I feel like he hasn't found a good match with a stylist yet. Alastair McKimm was definitely not it.
 
I absolutely didn't like it when I saw the pictures first, now I've seen the video and despite certain flaws, I found it the most interesting collection of Milan this season.
He's definitely a right fit for the brand and I love his obsession with materials, texture and tactility but at this point he's way overdoing it. Forget about Daniel Lee, he maybe needs to have another look at Tomas Maier's work actually, whose work was rich and sumptuous but almost always elegant and 'lighter'.
Since it's probably the main source of revenue, I think the bags are simply fabulous and probably highly unaffordable.

I read Matthieu is now styling his own collections which is usually not a good idea. A little distance and a set of fresh eyes is really required and a good stylist could tone it down a little. I feel like he hasn't found a good match with a stylist yet. Alastair McKimm was definitely not it.
 
I hate it but I also appreciate it. It's very EXTRA for S/S and looks very poorly edited. BUT, if he is willing to work on that, he could create a new identity for BV
 
Great and interesting material treatment, textures and luxe artisanal craftsmanship. Too bad the results are cumbersome clownwear that’s just generic fashions circa 1984 once separated from its clever the styling/casting.

Overly-conceptualized, overly-complicated, and unnecessarily-cumbersome design just for the sake of fashion innovation, but ending looking a burdened fashion caricature not just on the body, but as such an unnecessary— and hilarious attempt at pushing what’s appropriate for the natural season, is on a new level to cringe from JW Anderson’s fashion caricature. Too bad, because Matthew's debut had set the balance between pragmatic and dramatic so effortlessly easygoing and still luxe. Now it’s just so forced and so fashion-victimy.

That these looks— which already look unflattering on models, will supposedly be edited for real life retail is just condescending. It takes genuine effort of talent to construct designs that will have an impact visually on the runway, as well as in real life. Designs like this are just for showing off on the runway for desperate attention, and as editorial-bait. It’s lazy designing. And again, it’s too bad, because there are some looks that are strong in how casual and still luxe with how graphic they are, and what he’s capable of:



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Cathy Horyn's thoughts on the collection:

[Blazy] took elements of regional dress from all over the world and blended them together. Only a trace of the original style remained, and even then one couldn’t be sure if the thick fringe on the hem of a full herringbone-patterned skirt evoked tango in Argentina or the fringed yoke of a fitted red-leather top with a peplum over a red-leather sarong referenced the Maasai, or a white peacoat with partially undone flap-front trousers was a positively a merchant sailor. So Blazy was both voyager and collector.

I found it funny that he gave some of his characters — and that is what they were — a folded-leather clutch or a crumpled sack resembling a newspaper in texture and printing. Does anybody read a newspaper nowadays when they travel? You can rarely find one in a hotel.

In many ways, this complicated collection wasn’t about the experience of travel but rather, about the instant access to places that the internet provides. A lot of garments were so bulky and cumbersome looking — dresses with giant barnacles of fringe, heavy leather coats with beefy shoulders or extraneous flaps, a red-leather dress with wide sleeves and an overskirt in leather — that they would need their own large suitcase.

Weirdly, the collection threw down its own obstacles to pleasure. The texture and pattern of some of Blazy’s men’s pullovers were remarkable; one, in bands of black, gray, and off-white, had red zig-zags disrupting the stripes, like a jumpy S&P 500 chart. But only in certain climate conditions could you possibly wear such a thick sweater. Again, the scale and complexity of the garments imply that they are only for those with the means to wear and transport them comfortably, the ultrarich. Or an influencer on Instagram. Which pretty much deflates the true democrat sentiment offered in Blazy’s show notes, of adventure with “a spring in every step,” a line borrowed from, of all people, Mark Twain.

Like newspapers, this kind of travel — indeed elaborate clothes — is becoming obsolete.

Of course, craft and creativity have value, and we’ve seen some outstanding examples of both during the Milan shows, notably at Prada and at Gucci, chiefly with craft. But at Bottega Veneta, it’s hard to see how these essential things are helping Blazy develop a clear aesthetic for the brand. With Prada, for example, you see — nearly every season — a universe you know and are intrigued to enter. With Bottega, though, you get disconnected islands and a voyager who naively refuses to turn towards home.

Source: The Cut / NY Magazine
 
i think it doesnt help that theres no overall direction in the collection and each look is a seperate experiment. He needs to focus on building his bottega world, and make people want to be a part of it. I guess for many designers its not as easy as it sounds.
 
It's well-presented and it's one of the best shows of Milan this season - one that I can watch and enjoy fully. And I get both the praise and the critiques for it - I don't have a fully-formed opinion on it because it changes from look to look - thought it's mostly positive. Some looks I adore and others are okay (but there is nothing I despise) and it still makes me aspire to own a piece of Bottega, whether that be a bag or a sweater.

This show, and even his previous ones, sort exist in a similar universe as Prada S/S 2009 to me - maybe due to the runway layout, the lighting, the nautical motifs, and the overall very Italian mood of it - where I sort of wish he'd take notes of the lightness and sensuality of the Prada S/S 2009 clothes for his Bottega collections.
 
It's well-presented and it's one of the best shows of Milan this season - one that I can watch and enjoy fully. And I get both the praise and the critiques for it - I don't have a fully-formed opinion on it because it changes from look to look - thought it's mostly positive. Some looks I adore and others are okay (but there is nothing I despise) and it still makes me aspire to own a piece of Bottega, whether that be a bag or a sweater.

This show, and even his previous ones, sort exist in a similar universe as Prada S/S 2009 to me - maybe due to the runway layout, the lighting, the nautical motifs, and the overall very Italian mood of it - where I sort of wish he'd take notes of the lightness and sensuality of the Prada S/S 2009 clothes for his Bottega collections.
I was scrolling through that Prada SS09 collection both men’s and women’s yesterday. So iconic. Would love to see Mattieu’s interpretation of it in his Bottega world.
 
I had to keep looking at this, leaving, then coming back and then doing that all over again because this is a lot to take in as a collection. Frankly, I don't mind that I had to take some to digest it because it's been a while since I've done that.

What I can safely say is that I enjoy the pieces a lot for what they visually present from a technical point of view. He really did make the most out of what the atelier can achieve and also strive for. However, as a full collection from start to finish I do not enjoy it because it is so dense. Matthieu needs to relax a fair amount and not take himself so seriously, just really step out of his own little echo chamber. I love that he takes the craft seriously, we need more of that. But because he conceptualises things a little too much the collection overall it becomes an exercise in breaking down the looks and seeing what is to be, could be and will never be on offer.

I love and am interested in so much of this, it's just looking at this all in one it is way too many ideas that could be stripped back and made into their own collections. He needs to not be too precious and heavy handed about it all, and find a better middle ground between the very basic/accessible and the very bourgeois/artisanal. We know the Bottega Veneta atelier can do amazing things, Tomas Maier made sure of that during his tenure. There's no need to tell us you're a good designer, just show us.

That being said, this was a personal favourite this Fashion Week from Milan. Beautiful colours and fabrics, even if it does make me feel very sweaty.

*As an aside, I've been doing a lot of reading into object fetishism and exoticism and something about this collection really taps into that. Considering some of the cross-cultural references in this I wonder if that is something Matthieu and the team looked into.
 
I think that the heaviness is due to the poor fabric choices.

Most of the dresses shown here could've easily been made in a light, but stiff cotton/linen with the outerwear being made out of a thicker linen with interfacing. The knitwear could be thinner but cut to keep that oversized shape.

Therefore, they can keep their shape without becoming heavy and bulky. The more conceptual pieces can stay as they are, because this is still "Bottega Veneta by Matthieu Blazy".
 
It's more good than bad; I'll take too much over not enough, any day of the week.

I, and many others on here, decry over commercialism in fashion, especially on the runway; so if the suits let him make a visionary attempt on the catwalk, I feel like we should praise it, at least for now.
 

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