Confirmed: The 65th Golden Globes Are Cancelled

[ysljunkie]

I heard that the city of LA or hollywood rather is expected to lose something upwards of 10-30 million if this continues and Im not sure about the number of people laid off was started with a 3 so maybe like 300-3,000 something like that. IM NOT SURE THOUGH it was on a KFI talk show a while ago and i dont remeber actucal factual's

 

[smartarse]

apparently, the writers nor the actors aren't hurting. if one can go on strike that means they can afford to do so. it's the same with the MTA strikers here in NYC when they paralyzed mass transit 2 yrs ago. the only ones that went back to work and crossed the picket line are the ones making less than the strikers.

... there's something to think about

 

[ysljunkie]

thats why I think its sooooooo selfish I also heard ( dont quote me on this) something that the writers who where behind this pull in 100,000+ a yr. From the same show in LA on KFI.

 

[lesypersound]

I know this is somewhat of a defeated attituted, but the studios have been around as long as film has, and they've never lost.

"Lost"? No, but the studios honestly and fairly negotiated with the writers guild the last two times they striked in the 1960s and 1980s--both strikes lasting over 20 weeks.

But they already get regular television residuals, wherase the rest of the crew isn't getting anything at all. I'm sorry but to me, that's selfish.

earlier you said,

Eventually, courtesy of the internet, none of these people will be making tons of money anyways.

...so you answered yer own Q.

The internet is far to expansive to try to put limitations on it, to police it. I think the music industry was the first to fully realize this, which is why bands like Radiohead are basically giving away CDs. The world wide web is a monster that cannot be tamed. TV shows are swapped around the net like music at the point, movies too. We, my friends, are living in a rapidly changing world.

You know how you can stream the Daily Show and other online media directly from the official websites? There are revenues attached to each time a person views those things. There is money being made every time you go on a page and stream that video (relating the advertisements on the page and/or embedded in the clip, etc). The writers want residuals on those alternative/new media...the way they already get residuals on television shows, VHS (residuals they striked for in the 80s), and DVD sales...and why do they want more? because who buys VHS anymore ...and who will be buying DVDs 20 years from now?

To strike over this isn't very selfish...it's only fair... and it has little to do with P2P/Piracy.



smartarse,
do you know the details or why the negotiations are breaking down between the WGA and the AMPTP? i don't so i won't rush to call the WGA selfish... if AMFTP honestly won't negotiate fairly, then it's on them and not the WGA.
anyway, i've found some interesting reads for ppl interested in the "little people's" perspectives:
another LA Times link on how the strike affects production workers (LINK).
and
an IATSE (International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employes, Moving Picture Technicians, Artists and Allied Crafts in the US and Canada) aka the "little peoples'" union -- have a few press releases blasting the WGA leadership here's one: LINK.




anyway, it is good news about The Weinstein Company making a deal with the WGA...shows that the WGA can negotiate in good faith with somebody.

 

[KhaoticKharma]

apparently, the writers nor the actors aren't hurting. if one can go on strike that means they can afford to do so. it's the same with the MTA strikers here in NYC when they paralyzed mass transit 2 yrs ago. the only ones that went back to work and crossed the picket line are the ones making less than the strikers.

... there's something to think about

Thank you!


I don't care how many people in the Writers Guild "don't make that much money," they can obviously afford to strike, which is much more than you can say for all the technicians out of work because of the strike.

By the time the strike is over, the only people that will benefit right away are the writers; the same writers who have screwed over countless other people during the duration of the strike.

 

[lesypersound]

From WGA's website regarding below-the-line workers:

What about the “below-the-line” workers and the rest of the community that are suffering because of the strike?
We stand in solidarity with our fellow union members and are fighting for their rights along with ours. Fifty-five percent of the health insurance and pension funds for members of IATSE, the Teamsters, and the basic craft unions are paid for by residuals, but currently none of those unions receive residuals on content distributed through new media. As audiences move from traditional outlets to new media, the health and pension benefits of those unions are increasingly at risk. We care about all the members of our community, but if we and the other Hollywood unions accept an unfair deal, it will hurt everyone, including businesses that depend on a thriving entertainment industry. We HATE that others might be suffering because of this strike, but the conglomerates have left us no alternative.



(LINK)

 

[masquerade]

I know this is somewhat of a defeated attituted, but the studios have been around as long as film has, and they've never lost.

But they already get regular television residuals, wherase the rest of the crew isn't getting anything at all. I'm sorry but to me, that's selfish.

The internet is far to expansive to try to put limitations on it, to police it. I think the music industry was the first to fully realize this, which is why bands like Radiohead are basically giving away CDs. The world wide web is a monster that cannot be tamed. TV shows are swapped around the net like music at the point, movies too. We, my friends, are living in a rapidly changing world.

they may not have lost before, but some studios are already caving which shows the power of the writers.

and the writers deserve the residuals they get vs skilled workers. Set building isn't necessarily as creative of a process and it certainly doesn't contribute the same amount to the show. without the writers, there would be no shows, which is basically what we are seeing now.

and the revenues for the internet have nothing to do with illegal streaming and bootlegging. they are specifically referring to the fact that networks like NBC and ABC are putting their shows online and getting huge ad revenue for it. you cannot fast forward through ads while watching something on NBC.com like you could if you tivoed a program and watched it. The studios were making a lot of money off of this and bragged to their shareholders about it. The writers deserve some of that revenue.

What gives us the right to have their TV shows without them making any money for it? What gives the studios the right to make billions off their creative work without paying for it? These people are hard workers and deserve residuals. And a lot of writers are financially suffering from this strike. remember, the cost of living in LA is high, and just because someone has a slightly higher salary than the rest of the country doesn't mean they are rolling in dough.

 

[lesypersound]

this shouldn't even be framed as writers v. production workers.

--production workers are just as valuable as the writers, they're just much more interchangeable/disposable, which means the residuals they ARE paid in the form of pensions and health insurance is all the more important...and do you think the corporations will pay production workers fairly in the form of residuals on new media if they can't even swing literally the pennies writers are asking for?

and the writers along with the directors and actors guilds set the tone for hollywood. and in a real way this stuff does trickle down or echo in the deals the production workers' unions hammer out with AMPTP when their contracts are up for negotiation.

maybe this strike is going on for too long--but the ultimate "bad guys" in this situation aren't the workers (writers, directors, actors, or production workers).

 

[LUXXX]

Well NBC is through being nice...LOL

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/19212520.html

 

[MonkeyFish]

"Geeky Writers Ruin Prom Night for the Cool Kids"
That is the best way to describe the situation!

 

[papa_levante]

I don't see the big deal in cancelling such an event like this.

Instead of giving props to things like movies which have absolutely no importance to the well-being of mankind (except entertainment-wise), we should be having award shows about new discoveries in medicine and science by doctors and scientists because those are things that impact our lives most whether or not we recognize it.

That's my two cents. Cha-ching.

 

[masquerade]

I don't see the big deal in cancelling such an event like this.

Instead of giving props to things like movies which have absolutely no importance to the well-being of mankind (except entertainment-wise), we should be having award shows about new discoveries in medicine and science by doctors and scientists because those are things that impact our lives most whether or not we recognize it.

That's my two cents. Cha-ching.

its only a big deal in that the studios rely on these awards shows to provide a boost for their movies. the movies that win at these shows always do better at the box office the following week.

as for that comment from Ben Silverman, what an @ss. All he is doing is making the studios look worse (which is quite a feat because they already look so bad).

 

[LUXXX]

The press conference which was supposed to be televised has now been canceled...

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/confirmed-nbc-cancels-globes-newscast/

 

[MonkeyFish]

^^ My goodness, this is all blowing up to be one thing after the other. No one really cares who is going to win, because all the focus is going to be on the strike.

 

[smartarse]

the Oscars is next month, Feb 24 (?) i want to see Brad and Angelina on the red carpet and in the audience ..boo

... always looked forward to the Oscars -- it's my favorite award above the rest. this totally bites

 

[alix*]

No red carpet for this year?

 

[smartarse]

there's no solution in sight. Oscars is next month and all this over the freakin internet cut the strikers are demanding?!?! WTF!

 

[MissMagAddict]

The press conference which was supposed to be televised has now been canceled...

The press conference is still going to happen on Sunday. The change is that HFPA (the sponsors) are going to control it. In other words Zucker folded.

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Sponsors of Hollywood's Golden Globe Awards said on Friday they will take control from TV network NBC of a weekend news conference announcing winners of the coveted film and TV honors, which will open the live broadcast to other media.
The announcement of the open media event by the Hollywood Foreign Press Association sparked a response from striking film and TV writers assuring the HFPA they would not picket it.

 

[MissMagAddict]

source | eonline | 2 hours ago

Golden Globes for Everyone
It turns out the 65th Annual Golden Globes is going to be treated just like any other newsworthy event of the gross-anomaly variety.
The Hollywood Foreign Press Association announced Friday that it has assumed complete control over its Golden Globes "announcement" from NBC, and that all electronic media will be free to cover Sunday's news conference announcing the winners.
"Under the new arrangement, there will be no restrictions placed on media outlets covering the press conference," the HFPA said in statement.
Because of the more open proceedings, the Writers Guild of America has promised to keep the opposition at bay.
"In light of this change to the program, the WGA gave the HFPA our assurances that there would be no picket of their press conference on Sunday," the guild, which counts NBC as a struck company, said in a statement Friday.
And because the writers are backing off, sources tell E! News that some celebrities may be among the presenters and possibly even a few of the A-list nominees may be on hand, although there won't be a traditional red carpet. Actors had previously agreed to honor the writers' picket line.
A spokeswoman for the Screen Actors Guild said Friday, however, that, as far as the union knows, no member is scheduled to present—or show up. But they can if they want.
"It is our understanding that other than several announcers, there will be no presenters or attendees at the press conference," rep Pamela Greenwalt said. "Our members can attend any press conference they choose."
Access Hollywood anchors Billy Bush and Nancy O'Dell were also rumored to be doling out the awards, but the HFPA has announced that a number of entertainment anchors, including E! News' Giuliana Rancic, Entertainment Tonight's Mary Hart and The Insider's Lara Spencer, will join HFPA president Jorge Camara in doing the honors.
"The Hollywood Foreign Press Association is grateful for the tremendous support provided the Golden Globe Awards from national entertainment news programs," Camara said in a statement.
The stripped-down Globes is scheduled to air live from the Beverly Hilton Hotel, the longtime home of what is normally a glamorous, star-studded gala, at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT.
NBC, which had gone from exclusive home of the Golden Globes ceremony to exclusive home of the Golden Globes press conference, taking a multimillion-dollar hit in terms of ad revenue in the process, had been planning to treat the Globes as an exclusive network program with an all-NBC cast of characters. By moving it to the news division, which is currently in sync with its writing staff, it was hoping to avoid further conflict with the WGA.
The network said Friday that its programming schedule has not changed in light of the recent shakeup. As of now, Going for Gold, a two-hour Dateline NBC special featuring film clips and Matt Lauer interviewing some of the nominees, will precede the conference, which will be followed by a repeat of American Gladiators.
Thanks to the media free-for-all, viewers have alternatives to suit their Globes-watching needs, including the live E! News Special: Golden Globes 2008 hosted Ryan Seacrest on E! Entertainment Television.
And for those far away from their TV sets Sunday night, E! Online (a division of E! Networks) will be streaming the news conference live.

 

[christina126]

On a fashion note, what the stars could have worn

http://www.people.com/people/package/gallery/0,,20168758_20170496,00.html