Dazed & Confused January 2009 : The Youth Issue by Hedi Slimane

This is what it's all aboutB) First 2 covers just smash it all over....especially the first one.:clap:
Thank-you Berlin Rocks:flower:
 
I'll have a look for it in Borders on Oxford st. later today...hopefully it is out.
 
^^ i'm a bit confused, too ....
maybe the ones i posted were the "prototypes" for the issue ...
and those are the ones that may hit the newsstands ...
IDK ... dazed ... and confused ...

anyway here they are and i think it's a must buy ... ^_^



- nicolaformichetti -
 
http://www.dazeddigital.com/projects/teenage-takeover/default.aspx
I posted this in the Hedi thread but I thought it should be here as well. There are a ton of pics they are really good
My faves from Dazed Digital
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Gosh, Hedi Slimane is so talented. I love all his photographs. I can't wait for this issue.
 
I don't know. I've been sitting on the fence about this. On the one hand, I really enjoy the idea of youth having it's voices heard, of examining what being 'british' and being a 'youth' (or yout') means today. On the other hand, I never find that these things are pulled off successfully, and there is always a sense of triteness about it. I like that people are able to d/l them and submit their own covers. That's very cool. but the whole scouting round London thing is off putting (for me). Because what is going to be shot, is what an external person (in this case, Hedi Slimane) envisions London youth as. What he finds attractive, innovative, or interesting. So it's always going to be self-selecting in a way. And that's what I find off-putting. Because there is always going to be this East End London hipster, or vintage queen, or Knightsbridge priss stereotype photographed. Because being into fashion, or into politics, or turtles (!), isn't always discernable from the outside.

Not to get too philosophical (perhaps too late), but there is too much self-awareness in these photos, and that, by it's very nature, reduces the authenticity in what they are trying to portray (again, for my perspective). I'm not sure if all the shots up are all the shots taken (I'm going on the assumption they are), but it doesn't take a genius to see what a homogenous protrayal of London teens that is. the issues concerning a 17 year old black male on an estate in Peckham are a lot different than those of a 17 year old raised in Hampstead. Do the former views get heard? For me, that would be interesting and innovative and original. As it stands now I guess, I've seen it all before.

**overly long ramblings over**
 
Not to get too philosophical (perhaps too late), but there is too much self-awareness in these photos, and that, by it's very nature, reduces the authenticity in what they are trying to portray (again, for my perspective).

totally agree. although i really love the photographs and slimane, i think it's all kind of over-rated and pretentious. :ninja:

again good pictures.. but that's the end of it for me.
 
I get you, Meg. I love Slimane's work so I'll be buying up whichever issue I can get my hand on, but I'm buying it for his aesthetic, not because I think I'm getting any kind of truly original (or whatever the editor's think it's supposed to be) vision of British Youth. One glance at the subjects and anyone familiar with Slimane's work recognizes it's his typical selections.
 
I get you, Meg. I love Slimane's work so I'll be buying up whichever issue I can get my hand on, but I'm buying it for his aesthetic, not because I think I'm getting any kind of truly original (or whatever the editor's think it's supposed to be) vision of British Youth. One glance at the subjects and anyone familiar with Slimane's work recognizes it's his typical selections.

Exactly I just think that it is gorgeous not that it is authentic or anything else. I just :heart: the aesthetic value
 
it doesn't take a genius to see what a homogenous protrayal of London teens that is
Yeah, the photographs probably portray 1% of all youth... I guess aesthetics over realism. It would be very interesting if they shot myriad types of people though. I'd like to see that. Slimane should branch out more in terms of subject selection. He's a good enough photographer, i'm sure his photographs will be as beautiful!
 
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I don't know. I've been sitting on the fence about this. On the one hand, I really enjoy the idea of youth having it's voices heard, of examining what being 'british' and being a 'youth' (or yout') means today. On the other hand, I never find that these things are pulled off successfully, and there is always a sense of triteness about it. I like that people are able to d/l them and submit their own covers. That's very cool. but the whole scouting round London thing is off putting (for me). Because what is going to be shot, is what an external person (in this case, Hedi Slimane) envisions London youth as. What he finds attractive, innovative, or interesting. So it's always going to be self-selecting in a way. And that's what I find off-putting. Because there is always going to be this East End London hipster, or vintage queen, or Knightsbridge priss stereotype photographed. Because being into fashion, or into politics, or turtles (!), isn't always discernable from the outside.

Not to get too philosophical (perhaps too late), but there is too much self-awareness in these photos, and that, by it's very nature, reduces the authenticity in what they are trying to portray (again, for my perspective). I'm not sure if all the shots up are all the shots taken (I'm going on the assumption they are), but it doesn't take a genius to see what a homogenous protrayal of London teens that is. the issues concerning a 17 year old black male on an estate in Peckham are a lot different than those of a 17 year old raised in Hampstead. Do the former views get heard? For me, that would be interesting and innovative and original. As it stands now I guess, I've seen it all before.

**overly long ramblings over**

I agree that it's a personal vision (Hedi Slimane's) and that it's a (very) strong point of view of one particular part of brit' youth ....
But at the same time, don't you think Kant-esque desire of universale aesthetics is a bit over ?!
:huh: ....

An artist gives his opinion about reality ... I'm not sure a universal aesthetics/message is still interesting. I prefer a strong point of view, a true guideline than a desire to be loved by everyone ...
But i got your point and I 50% agree with it ...

Still, I think this idea is original .... and forward ....
I just hope they'll do it a second time with someone as interested as Hedi is into the youth ... brit' or not ...

it's not everyday a whole issue is dedicated to unkwn people and their own vision of a country and their partners (the young brits in general) and "ruled" by young people with creativity ....

imo Nicola is very interested into young people who do what they want when they want it with the ressources they have at the moment ... He is interested into person who want to be creative and don't especially follow the trends ...
(though what we may see in this issue is kind of trendy ... :innocent:)
 
it might indeed be abit pretentious..overly thought out and self consciously "cool", "arty" and "noveau bohemia"...

all the things i despise..

but somehow i can't hate this. I think Hedi's done a really good job photographing in a way that is very visually appealing, and evocative even..

i think i'll get the issue ^_^
 
^Who's the model in the second cover?
 

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