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Welcome Pillarist.
When did I first become aware of DH?
Let’s see… well… this picture did the trick…

Now, why was I drawn to Slimane’s work…Where do I begin? :D
First, I find the DH aesthetic to be unique because I feel it is as close to the notion of haute couture for men as anyone was able to achieve in the past x number of years.
Personally, I would not call all DH clothes minimalist pieces – well, the cut and the fit maybe, but I would be hard-pressed to argue that some of the pieces in “Luster” were minimalist…
I prefer the term that was used in the GQ (February 2004) article to describe Slimane’s aesthetic: an “aesthetic that somehow marries asceticism and decadence.”
It is an aesthetic that was already “ambient” in a sense - found in disparate places from Raf Simons’ work to the lithe bishonen so prominently featured in Japanese shojo manga. Slimane managed to crystallize it in a most pristine form. And the fact that he did not receive a standard education in fashion design (he studied history of art if I am not mistaken) afforded him a freedom to approach fashion in a different way – perhaps being inspired by more personal obsessions like fleeting youth and innocence (many references to Rimbaudian undertones have been mentioned in the literature concerning Slimane’s work) or perhaps he found inspiration in the 16th century Spanish court where it was first realized that black-on-black “had infinite gradations of subtlety and richness which would be destroyed by the addition of strong bright colours” (pg. 38 “Peacock Males and Perfect Gentlemen,” Colin McDowel). So you could say that I don’t believe Slimane’s words when he was quoted as saying “I have no reference to anything.”

As far as the whole concept of androgyny is concerned, I feel we are treading on thin ice… If not done “properly” men can look camp by modern masculine aesthetics. Now, the question is: is this bad? Since when does an aesthetic of a current period dictate an absolute norm? – I mean a couple of centuries ago men wore pearls, sported beauty spots and ran around in high heels. However, I think subversion is not the key requirement here: androgyny should not be about gender-bending but about a certain kind of freedom, the freedom of post-gender, of lack of gender “differentiation,” and ultimately of potentiality, something so wonderfully exemplified by the use of adolescent models (and of course reflected in Slimane’s clothes.)

Finally, recall that Slimane’s shot into stardom was laced by delicious tidbits of loyalty, rivalry and betrayal (Yves St Laurent attending the DH show rather than the newly-acquired-by-Gucci YSL rive gauche show). And as we all know everyone enjoys a bit of juicy scandal now and then let alone the fashion industry…
Anyway, that’s how I see things and that’s why I bemoan the fact that DH is becoming more commercial, but that’s a different story….
I apologize for the mini-essay; I hope I didn’t bore people too much. I tend to get carried away when I speak about these subjects…. ^_^


 
AlexN, need to ask your expertise here.

What's the difference between the "Used original 19cm, €356" and the "Distressed denim 19cm, €333" from Louisaviaroma?

Compared to Diabro's mud processed jeans? I'm thinking of getting an orange overdyes. But from what I read, this season's crap compared to last two reasons.

What do you think?

Thanks:)
 
apologies...
this is the image I was referring to...
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Feroce, that's a gorgeous image.

I first got to appreciate Dior with Luster, although I was aware of it before. Luster just blew me away - I could not get it out of my head.

What makes me sad is how quick Hedi ran out of steam, in my opinion. I don't know why. I can blame LVMH for the current poor quality, but it's not just that. S/S 05 and S/S 06 were both horrendous in terms of design. F/W 05 got my hopes up, until they were shattered once I saw the stuff in stores.
 
Feroce Infirme said:
apologies...
this is the image I was referring to...


Oh my god. How could I have overlooked the details on that coat in the past:shock: ?!

Sigh... another piece to add to the "want" list....
 
I really believe you can only go so far, so quickly before you resort to design tactics like skirts for men. Oops, I think Dior's been there too. It definitely fills an niche (a very nice one at that) and well, not everyday can be better than the last when it comes to design. It's not quite a science. Yet.
 
it's just a trial,i hope to make it right next time without too much in the background,but thank you guys anyway for commenting :)
 
Excellent post, Feroce Infirme.

As for me, I first learned of DH through the Spring 2004 GQ articles/editorials that featured it as well...I had never heard of this brand before (I mean, I knew about Dior but wasn't aware of a "Dior Homme by Hedi Slimane")...then going back to Hong Kong in the summer, I saw some Strip pieces up close for the first time (the details of exact pieces I saw are a blur in my memory now, as back then I was just getting into fashion and dressing up more properly for myself and was bombarded everyday with clothes from brands all across the spectrum I've never seen before...from Neighborhood to Louis Vuitton. I also didnt pay as close attention to details, quality and materials back then), and at the time I was most struck by the pricing, such as the striped bee t-shirt that retailed for $2,900 HKD and I remember seeing a pair of jeans at $4,400...I had never been exposed to such a high level of pricing, and it took me back (these prices are much higher than what you pay for them in the US, Europe, etc.)...then in the fall of 2004 I came on TFS and began discovering more about the world of DH through past collections' photos and was taken aback by the sharpness of the tailoring, the iconic images presented through the ads, the insouciance and scary precision with which the essence of youth was captured in the whole packaging. But most importantly DH gave me the opportunity to feel at ease with my own body. Being unusually thin for my entire life, I have tried numerous times during adolescence (unsuccessfully) to bulk up, i tried hitting the gym, drinking all these protein shakes, always looking in the mirror for progress but no such luck. I was discouraged because I couldn't get into my 'ideal' image of myself which was more of a Dolce & Gabbana muscular playboy type aesthetic, also having been drilled with standards of how women prefer muscular, athletic types which has just never been me for some reason. Thus DH was a welcoming experience as the tall, thin, dark, mysterious and brooding image spoke to me on a very personal level and I have been a fan ever since. I first started buying DH in VotC, starting with the black suit that I never had in full...unfortunately there have not been many pieces I have found myself wanting in the past 2 seasons, so I haven't bought much and as it stands my DH collection isn't very big but substantial enough that I can mix it into many of my outfits since I own a few pairs of pants that go well with my look everyday. I would like to go back and obtain some tailored pieces from the archive that are representative of the painfully cool and sleek look of reckless youth that captured my heart at first, but at the moment I am still a student and cannot afford to acquire some of these pieces, hopefully I will get the chance to do so in the future.
 
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You'd drool even more if I told you for how much I could've had it :doh:. I could not keep it because the sleeves were impossibly long and very hard to alter. It's a shame. But, it went to some nice person in Japan and made me $1.5k reacher. That was a long time ago...
 
Oh do tell, how much??

Signature pieces like the Napoleon jacket aside, I wonder how much the average Luster jacket goes for on the open market.
 
Faust you're KILLING me!

One of the two jackets I want/need/desire (okay, want... not really need).

I think the leathers go for lower in the US than in Japan. I've seen that exact Luster jacket sell for around $3700 on Y! a couple of months ago. Also the ad campaign leather jacket from Luster sold for around $3500 on y! as well.

mmmm, gotta love em!
 
Well if we're showing items that we regret (sort of regret in Faust's case:D ) selling... here's one:

What sucks is I sold it for what I paid for it because I wanted the money at the time:doh: to buy something else... which I later on sold anyways... and now I can't remember who I sold this jacket to!

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Talk about regret!
 
friggin awesome jacket, Albert. What season is it from?

faust, lovely jacket (a shame it didn't work out on you!)...i'd put that right up there with the CCP 'evil' jacket.
 
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Luster, that's such an awesome jacket. The simpler version (without zip-off sleeves and minus the details on the cuffs) popped up a couple of times on Ebay. Is it a warm jacket, by the way? I've been comtemplating it and was wondering if it can hold up to Canadian winters :D
 
Curating Hedi and Dior Homme

Hi, this is my second day here. I'm loving it. I feel more at home.
Someday, soon, I will put my what-are-you-wearing-today photo.

I learned about Hedi during his brief stint at YSL Rive Gauche, it was love at first sight but I can't afford it and I don't have access when I was still living in Manila. Now, I have been collecting those clothes, buying them on eBay and resale stores here in NYC.

All the more that I am fascinated with Hedi and Dior Homme, since joining this thread. I have a burning question:

CAN SOMEONE LIST THE NAMES OF ALL THE COLLECTIONS SO FAR?

I would really appreciate it. I'm very o.c. and I want to archive this info.:D
 
airboyair said:
Hi, this is my second day here. I'm loving it. I feel more at home.
Someday, soon, I will put my what-are-you-wearing-today photo.

I learned about Hedi during his brief stint at YSL Rive Gauche, it was love at first sight but I can't afford it and I don't have access when I was still living in Manila. Now, I have been collecting those clothes, buying them on eBay and resale stores here in NYC.

All the more that I am fascinated with Hedi and Dior Homme, since joining this thread. I have a burning question:

CAN SOMEONE LIST THE NAMES OF ALL THE COLLECTIONS SO FAR?

I would really appreciate it. I'm very o.c. and I want to archive this info.:D

Fall-Winter 2001 - Solitaire
Spring-Summer 2002 - Red (AKA Boys Don't Cry)
Fall-Winter 2002 - Reflection
Spring-Summer 2003 - Follow Me
Fall-Winter 2003 - Luster
Spring-Summer 2004 - Strip
Fall-Winter 2004 - Victim Of The Crime
Spring-Summer 2005 - nameless
Fall-Winter 2005 - Everybody Just Looks The Same
Spring-Summer 2006 - The World Was A Mess But His Hair Was Perfect (I think...might have to recheck those news articles)
 
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