Gisele Bundchen

[saturnine]

Originally posted by metal-on-metal+Dec 8 2004, 02:55 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(metal-on-metal @ Dec 8 2004, 02:55 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Gisele was just in the right place at the right time for mainstream breakthrough. She came along at a time when models were increasingly bland and without personality. This continues even today. Gemma Ward may be pretty to fashion people but a typical person on the street would probably call her ugly and boring. Ditto for Hana, Daria, Eugenia, and all the current top girls. Gisele has a vibrant personality and a vibrant chest (perfect for capturing the attention of the Maxim and FHM contingent) which makes her the perfect candidate for supermodeldom.

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Reasons?

Right place right time (i.e Brazilian trend) hyped up by Anna Wintour, 'big' boobs, eye catching walk, vibrant personality and unfortunately Leonardo Dicaprio.

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So well put.

I'm glad someone mentioned the Leonardo DiCaprio thing - I read a while ago that Carmen Kass and Gisele came into the modelling scene about the same time; who is more of a household name?

Not many of the supermodels have not made their name based partly on their significant other, which helps if they're an actor or someone of significant influence.

 

[Nemova]

Originally posted by Polina_sexy@Dec 8 2004, 05:26 PM
In some months another supermodel will appear and gisele will dissapear.

People say that every year and yet she's still big - and no one is bigger than her now - except for Daria, maybe.

 

[Nemova]

Originally posted by roppal2000@Dec 8 2004, 06:03 PM
Reasons?

Right place right time (i.e Brazilian trend) hyped up by Anna Wintour, 'big' boobs, eye catching walk, vibrant personality and unfortunately Leonardo Dicaprio.

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Let's not forget she started the Brazilian trend. Shirley Mallmann came first but she's nothing compared to Gisele - she didn't make a huge impact.

 

[Clementine]

Originally posted by Misako@Dec 8 2004, 05:15 PM
Second this, mostly.

I'm not a fan of Gisele, but as Jacquetta Wheeler said on a video on Fashion File - it's really about timing and a make-it photoshooot with a top photographer...and then everything snowballs. Gisele has sustained success because she's well-known due to dating Leonardo and getting that major commercial "push" from VS. If she hadn't done so much VS, I doubt she'd be as popular as she is today. Women might know her, but men wouldn't. There are a lot of models that men don't know (re: Natalia - most men wouldn't know her name) simply because they stick to things that are less commercial. Calvin Klein is her domain, but it's not nearly as "high profile" in terms of name-success as VS is.

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I mostly agree with what you're saying, although Calvin Klein did make Kate Moss a huge supermodel, and I think that most men know her name. Ultimately, Gisele has that little extra, or "it" as some would say, and that's what has set her apart from Natalia and the rest...
She was the right model at the right time, just as Kate and the supermodels before her. I wonder who the next supermodel will be... I think if Daria was going to be that girl, we'd know by now...

 

[Erin]

For one, Gisele's beauty isn't trendy - she's not a Gemma, for instance. Two, her body is near perfection. Third, her personality just sparkles...men want to date her, and women want to be friends with her. Also, it helps that she's had some exposure in the mainstream, what with Victoria's Secret and men's magazines covers and all.

 

[keesani]

Originally posted by Nemova@Dec 8 2004, 08:19 PM
People say that every year and yet she's still big - and no one is bigger than her now -

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Exactly. You can't keep saying that 'it's because of VS' or 'because of Leo' because it is, and I believe the initial question was 'What makes Gisele stand out?' All these things make Gisele stand out, you can't say things like 'if she wasn't in VS she wouldn't be famous', because that's like saying 'if Kate Moss didn't do Calvin Klein she'd be virtually unknown', hypothetically most models would not be famous if they hadn't done any work.

Gisele is such a great model because she's so versatile, and like someone previously mentioned, she was one of the first models that started the trend of models with personality. Think about it, most models these days have great, lively personalities and Gisele started that.

 

[SCBlondie]

I remember when she came out and I was like twelve. I wasn't into fashion back than but I was babysitting and flipping through the woman's Vogue ( think it was the millineum(sp) issue) anyway, I just remeber seeing Gisele EVERYWHERE. All those Dolce and Gabbana, Versace, Dior ads (with the bubbles). I don't think I knew her NAME until I was flipping through the woman's US weekly and read an article about her and Leo. And than I remember watching Vh1/Vogue fashion awards and seeing her and I guess it all just fell into place. Anyway, I guess I'm trying to say that she stood out above the rest to a normal little 12-year old with no interest in fashion. She was just everywhere.

 

[Str8DudeJude]

What is it in her, that VS see and invest $24M for Gisele to represent VS for 5 years. Clearly there's something about her that investors see. It's not fair to say that She only got famous because she did work for VS or she dated Leo. Victoria Secret is picky on their models and they choose Gisele as their Major Star because they saw something on her. As for Leo, I don't think he help her much because they live a very private life. In my opinion Gisele would make a lot of press coverage if she's single and dated few different actors like, Josh Hartnett, Heath Ledger, Orlando Bloom or Jake Gyl. But she dated Leo and they live very, very private.

As for Daria comparison, she's not yet as big as Gisele. Probably she won't be. Gisele has back to back US Vogue Covers. I haven't seen Daria yet in US Vogue, except September which she shared with several other newcomers. Right now Gisele is indeed the Supermodel of all-Supermodels.

 

[fullfrontal]

Originally posted by Str8DudeJude@Dec 8 2004, 09:18 PM
What is it in her, that VS see and invest $24M for Gisele to represent VS for 5 years. Clearly there's something about her that investors see. It's not fair to say that She only got famous because she did work for VS or she dated Leo. Victoria Secret is picky on their models and they choose Gisele as their Major Star because they saw something on her. As for Leo, I don't think he help her much because they live a very private life. In my opinion Gisele would make a lot of press coverage if she's single and dated few different actors like, Josh Hartnett, Heath Ledger, Orlando Bloom or Jake Gyl. But she dated Leo and they live very, very private.

As for Daria comparison, she's not yet as big as Gisele. Probably she won't be. Gisele has back to back US Vogue Covers. I haven't seen Daria yet in US Vogue, except September which she shared with several other newcomers. Right now Gisele is indeed the Supermodel of all-Supermodels.

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Right now, Gisele is almost a superstar nevermind being a supermodel. And it has everything to do with dating a movie star and Victoria's Secret, as well as her personality. If you think about the Supers before her, they became well known for what they did away from the fashion industry because the only people that pay attention to the players in the fashion industry is the fashion industry. (John Casablancas has a comment in Letters section of Vogue (Cate Blanchett issue) regarding this.)

What makes a person a superstar is exposure and recognition and when you are dating a name like Leo DiCaprio you are going to get press whether you're private or not. Leo was a very desirable man to fans so when he put Gisele on his arm she became exposed to a whole new audience (I first read about Gisele in E's gossip column) VS reaches practically every household in America. Granted most people don't know the models names in the catalogue but when some teenager or whomever recognizes that the girl in the low rise bikini is Leo DiCaprio's girlfriend that they just saw in Us Weekly it begins to click and come together.

Gisele has crossed so many lines that she's almost a celebrity herself.
Daria will never be where Gisele is because IMO Daria is boring.

 

[Str8DudeJude]

So Gisele has that fire inside her that attracts the VS contract and Leo. Plus, she's got the best walk in the industry.

 

[Tarden]

On more than one occasion I've been flipping through pages of an old show at firstview.com when my eye is drawn to a particular thumbnail image. There is "something" about that model that stands out, and is detectable even from a thumbnail- whether it's the body shape, a "vibe", a sense of the walk, I don't know. This has happened many times, and the model in question invariably turns out to be Gisele. This young woman clearly has something special, without which she would not be the super-model that she is.

 

[Str8DudeJude]

I remember the first time I saw her. They're presenting an award for designers in VH1 and they're showing their work. Along came this girl with a very annoying look, so strong and full of intensity, she walks like a galloping Horse. That was Gisele 6 years ago.

 

[liberty33r1b]

Originally posted by Tarden@Dec 9 2004, 11:11 AM
On more than one occasion I've been flipping through pages of an old show at firstview.com when my eye is drawn to a particular thumbnail image. There is "something" about that model that stands out, and is detectable even from a thumbnail- whether it's the body shape, a "vibe", a sense of the walk, I don't know. This has happened many times, and the model in question invariably turns out to be Gisele. This young woman clearly has something special, without which she would not be the super-model that she is.

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i soo agree!! i remember seeing her in a us vogue editorial for the first time and thinking: why haven't i recognised this beautiful face before? turned out it was her first big editorial then, and she captivated me ever since.
along with others, of course.......think kate, naomi, heidi, claudia, karolina etc. - she is not the only perfect face out there!

 

[cosmocat]

I think you can think about a model's success in two different ways-commercial and fashion. Of course Gisele has had great success in the fashion world but I would say now, what with dating DiCaprio, being a Victoria Secret's Angel along with Heidi and Tyra and being in Taxi, she is more of a general celebrity than just a model. personally, I prefer models than superstars.

 

[iluvjeisa]

Gisele is not the most well known supermodel ever. IMO that would be Cindy C, Cheryl Tiegs or possibly Twiggy. EVERYBODY knew who these models were back in the day (not that I was there, but I've talked to people). Gisele is not mentioned in every other movie and every other song like those girls were. She and Kate Moss are the only supermodels of our time (1998-2004), though. Not counting the antiquated ones such as Linda E, Christy and Cindy. I'd put some money on Daria and Hana for the next few years.

 

[roppal2000]

No one denies Gisele has that special something, of course she does. She is a stand out and is versatile, BUT

the question is how is Gisele sustaining her fame? Supermodels are not as big as they used to be. And I'm glad the Carmen Kass thing was mentioned...she rose up alongside Gisele getting many covers, a lot of attention, but she has never been exposed to the mainstream media which turns people into celebrities because she hasn't dated someone like Dicaprio. Dicaprio keeps Gisele's name famous that's all I'm saying especially over the past few years they dated and she wasn't on the catwalks any more. She had the potential to disappear into oscurity following all that hype of her in the late 90s , especially considering she 'retired'. The mainstrea, press get bored of models of the moment if they aren't offering anything more. Even Karolina Kurkova works more than Gisele and isn't half as famous. Why? I'm sure designers aren't hiring Gisele because she dates Dicaprio! I mean the girl was getting work left right and centre before Dicaprio chased her down. I mean if that were the case most of the models he has dated would be just as famous and super successful! Dicaprio turned her into a celebrity and her name went beyond 'model of the moment'. You can't even read anything about Gisele these days without his name in there which wasn't the case when she was dating Scott Barnhill. People genuinely could just stand back and recognize her on her own merits. Most people I speak to either do not know her or know her simply because she's Leonardo Dicaprio's girlfriend. They may know her through VS, but most 99% of the time it is because of him, which is dissapointing. And I beg to differ with the 'private' thing: Gisele is not all that private when it comes to Dicaprio. She has talked about him openly in several interviews such as VF! And that brings her even more attention!

Models don't make a huge impact on the mainstream through their work especially in this day and age, they are only going to be become newsworthy through who they date! That's how I see it!

Ok, out of breath now

 

[iluvjeisa]

There are times in history when models have become famous - really really famous - because they are gorgeous. It happened in the mid/late 60s and the late 80s. I think it is going to happen in the mid/late 00s as well....

 

[roppal2000]

Originally posted by iluvjeisa@Dec 9 2004, 01:33 PM
There are times in history when models have become famous - really really famous - because they are gorgeous. It happened in the mid/late 60s and the late 80s. I think it is going to happen in the mid/late 00s as well....

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I agree totally with this..and everything goes round in cycles. But in reference to Gisele, I know just as many people who find her very unattractive as those who her find her to be gorgeous. So for her looks to be subjective and praised and dismissed in equal measures, I don't think that can be the ultimate reason why she is so famous.

And I agree with your comments about those models who's beauty is talked about ubiquitiously such as Brigitte Bardot, Christy, Cindy, Linda E. I also hope that Daria and Hana become better known but I seriously hope it won't be because of who they date. It's disappointing.

 

[iluvjeisa]

Sometimes it can be both the beauty and their date that causes the attention. I see nothing wrong with that

I think when it's a guy who has been such a mega star heart throb - like Leo - it might be a bad thing for the model's credibility as a model. But Kate could handle her relationship to Johnny Depp quite well in that respect - there was rather a commontion surrounding JD at the time - or maybe their relationship was past his teen-appeal charm. She was never mentioned as only JD's gf. She was always Kate - the pseudo-anorexic yet sexy waif model.

 

[roppal2000]

Originally posted by iluvjeisa@Dec 9 2004, 01:45 PM
Sometimes it can be both the beauty and their date that causes the attention. I see nothing wrong with that 

I think when it's a guy who has been such a mega star heart throb - like Leo - it might be a bad thing for the model's credibility as a model. But Kate could handle her relationship to Johnny Depp quite well in that respect - there was rather a commontion surrounding JD at the time - or maybe their relationship was past his teen-appeal charm. She was never mentioned as only JD's gf. She was always Kate - the pseudo-anorexic yet sexy waif model.

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That's true. As a spectator of the fashion business I could appreciate Kate entirely on her merits as a model and nothing more but in terms of the mainstream press - the people who make celebrities- I actually hated that I could never read anything about Kate without it being mentioned she was dating Johnny Depp. Also, as much as it pains me to say Dicaprio in my opinion surpassed all the hype over looks that Depp faced by light years. Dicaprio's celebrity status post-Titanic became ridiculous beyond belief. I personally, in my young lifetime, have never seen any other star become so hyped up like he did.

However, Kate and Gisele remind me of one another on many different levels.