Givenchy F/W 2025.26 Paris

im very confused when people talk about someone being a fashion designer and see that they prefer collections that are not really designed. Just more about styling gimmicks and styling them to look "modern and now". While we have Burton who is always experimenting with the cuts and techniques used in her looks. But she is sometimes referred to as a "not fashion designer". Maybe she is not the best stylist or set creator but her clothes are always experimental fashion-wise.

Is fashion design not about creating and experimenting on clothes anymore?
 
I was never really the biggest fan of Sarah Burton at McQueen except for the menswear but, surprisingly, I quite like a lot of this? It could’ve done with some editing, but there are gems within the collection.
 
I love a good debate, but it is mighty tense and intense in here. Let's take a moment to enjoy a St Germain Spritz ! :unsure:


well, one can't be surprised if their incendiary comments/accusations incite a response.

the only look I truly don't care for is the opening, love the jackets especially
 
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Beautiful collection overall.

The tulle dresses feel surprisingly unrefined for Sarah Burton, and those net dresses with the flounce hem—who is the target audience there? That territory leans more LaQuan Smith than Givenchy.

I’m not as perplexed by the opening look as others seem to be. The urban girls and IG body girlies (Clermont twins, etc.) will eat that up with their Shark Lock boots.

That said, the core of the collection is strong for a debut. It has its flaws and lacks some cohesion, but it’s one of the season’s better offerings. A fashion proposition doesn’t always have to be loud—it can be quiet and grounded in reality.
 
Maybe because there is a point that people aren't a monolith, and I think we can agree we live in a relatively similar enough culture that people all have different perspectives based on how we grew up and navigated this culture. The mainstream perspective of womenswear is coming from a majority of the same 1 type of person. To continually point out that someone's longing for a woman's perspective and ideas in a sea of gay men is completely unnecessary and scoff at it simply because they're a woman... that is plainly misogynistic. It's just an objective observation. You are quite literally saying idgaf about who you are or where you're coming from or what you have to say. What is creativity and talent without the person behind it?
 
there is nothing masculine about this collection. if a guy wears any of the suit, it would show that he is wearing a womans suit. the curves alone are very feminine. im not sure what you're on about.
 
I’m confused about what some users want from women’s clothing… these aren’t clothes for prostitutes with their Chanel 2.55 bags, or fake intellectuals with their Phoebe Philo garb… and it’s still not good enough? Damn, what can women wear without being called slurs or being mocked on tFS anymore.
 
I really did not expect the Givenchy thread to be hell hole ! Wow.

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I enjoy this. Controlled and resolute with just the right amount of whimsy. The tailoring is top-notch. The surprise splicing is so sexy. Yes, JG did the reverse DB blazer for Dior, and so what? It doesn’t give him ownership. SB’s take is sculptural and slim-waisted whilst JG’s draped elegantly at the back like a Vionnet shift.

Top marks for Charles Mingus on the soundtrack. The Givenchy Maven has great taste in music.
 
Maybe because there is a point that people aren't a monolith, and I think we can agree we live in a relatively similar enough culture that people all have different perspectives based on how we grew up and navigated this culture. The mainstream perspective of womenswear is coming from a majority of the same 1 type of person. To continually point out that someone's longing for a woman's perspective and ideas in a sea of gay men is completely unnecessary and scoff at it simply because they're a woman... that is plainly misogynistic. It's just an objective observation. You are quite literally saying idgaf about who you are or where you're coming from or what you have to say. What is creativity and talent without the person behind it?

You are one of the people on this forum I whose posts I usually enjoy, for the record, but did you happen to re-read your comment? You said "scoff at it simply because they're a ____" in the same breath as you dismissed "a sea of gay men"? Would you feel indulgent toward a comment about a category you belong to made in an exaggerated and sneering way?

I'm also having trouble with the idea that people are "longing for a woman's perspective and ideas" in the fashion industry as if that does not exist yet, given the sheer number of incredible, talented, successful female designers whose achievements and innovations outlasted even their own lives, going back a hundred years to when sexism was the unapologetic order of the day. Chanel was founded by a woman in 1910, Chloe was founded by a woman in 1952, and recently at or near the top of the game we have had Rei, Miuccia, Donatella, Silvia, Phoebe, Sarah, and probably more I'm not thinking of. Now I am only saying what I'm saying, I'm trying not to make grand claims about the politics of the industry, and it is only a response -- without malice or sarcasm -- to what you said above, but if you want to go out and buy clothing made for a woman by another woman (in the sense of whatever that phrase means to you personally), what is the obstacle that requires "longing"?
 
That's fair, somehow I got to interpreting the username as a twist on 'Susan' -- but the gender of the person writing the posts never mattered to me either way except to the extent that, in this case, a self-effacing comment rankles a lot less than pompous condescension.

The more important point was that we don't need to pine for something that already exists, and frankly "longing" for a female POV in fashion in 2025 sort of diminishes all of the women designing clothes already.
 
I was expecting worse.
I liked the very pure clean approach, the tailoring felt strong and compelling, I was fearing English romanticism, happy she opted for a more Parisian feel.
But Those net looks belong to Peter mulier trash bin, what the hell.
Shoes are very questionable.
Flou was not exploited at all, the yellow puff felt very weak.
But I guess it’s a promising start, focusing on a theme considered the short time she had is smart.
Time to move to Paris Sarah
 

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