Jonathan Anderson - Designer, Creative Director of JW Anderson & Christian Dior

[Simera]

Lady Dior with clovers just makes me think of the texture of a frog. Like a big African bullfrog. That's so unappealing, and I kinda like frogs too....

 

[PPPT]

I really hope they bring back the Be Dior. It was such a well-designed bag (though please fix those front Dior charms they always flip and tangle messily every time you open the flap). It clearly carried the DNA of the Lady Dior. If Lady Dior is the Birkin, then Be Dior was ready to be the Kelly.

And of course, bring back the Miss Dior Flap Bag from the Galliano era or Diorama from Raf they were the true Constance equivalents. Offer them all in smooth leather or classic Cannage options, and then just throw the Caroand 30 Montaigne with the oversized CD logos straight into the trash.

 

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The BoF Podcast | In Paris, Hellos, Goodbyes and Waiting For Creative Change​

Tim Blanks and Imran Amed share their highlights and takeaways as Jonathan Anderson takes Dior into a new era, Demna closes his Balenciaga chapter and luxury brands face a value proposition reckoning.

pod cast link : The BoF Podcast | In Paris, Hellos, Goodbyes and Waiting For Creative Change

Key Insights:​

• Jonathan Anderson’s debut at Dior represented the start of a carefully managed transformation. “Dior is like a performance for him; JW Anderson is the real Jonathan,” said Blanks. “I felt he was on a mission to manage expectations. He was basically saying, give me time.” The conceptual collection served as an opening statement rather than a full evolution.

 

[Grets]

Just listened to that podcast. Seemed like they were more interested in talking about JWAs repurposed garden tools over the Dior fashion. And when they were it was a defence of a lacklustre debut.

 

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Just listened to that podcast. Seemed like they were more interested in talking about JWAs repurposed garden tools over the Dior fashion. And when they were it was a defence of a lacklustre debut.

also celine one was like mine field ...later to end it with must be the heat that they can't think clearly now lolz

 

[Grets]

also celine one was like mine field ...later to end it with must be the heat that they can't think clearly now lolz

LMAO! When Tim was like he didn't even go, says it all

 

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LMAO! When Tim was like he didn't even go, says it all

because an interview ..........at that same hour as the show???? loll !!!!! child !!!!!!the show was planned months ago lol

 

[PierreGotha]

That "Lolita" Lady Dior is a smart tweak. I can see younger clients falling for it, as well as the Asian market.

I wouldn't be surprised if he revived the Diorama, leaning towards the menswear line. That's just my hunch.

 

[FashionPower]

That's all.

 

[reese06]

Ok, we know you are Irish...what´s the point of covering the Lady Dior with clovers?? What´s next, renaming the bag to Lady Leprechaun??

Another Lady Dior with just a single bow...WOW! I can´t with that creative overdose. The same with the tassel covered one. Well, there is no need to make collabs with artists, because it seems Johnny is going to customize all Dior bags by himself!

I’m sure when they are presenting this to sales team they will say something like this “the four leaf clover is for luck which we know Mr Dior himself was obsessed with carrying his lucky charms with him, superstition, blah blah blah. JW Anderson is Irish and blah blah blah… Think of carrying this bag covered in four leaf clovers as always having good luck with you”… for 12k of course

 

[tigerrouge]

The finer points of identity (and the signifiers of such) within Northern Ireland are very fraught things, it's almost better that the wider world wouldn't know where to start with any of it, and are happy to gloss over everything by thinking of someone as "Irish".

Within NI, someone called Jonathan William Anderson would be seen as someone on the British end of the scale, rather than someone who would be Irish.

However, there is nothing to stop someone from identifying as Irish, even if they would not have come from that background, for various reasons personal to them. Although it doesn't come without consequences within NI, although the consequences tend to lessen, the higher your socio-economic background is.

Personally, this is probably the most interesting things for me about JWA - to see how someone from NI handles this sense of identity, when all the eyes of the world are upon him.

While he may never plan on living here again, I don't think it ever leaves you, these internal conflicts with identity - and that's not even adding in the layers that come from his father being a successful sportsperson with issues of his own to overcome, and the experience of being gay in what was definitely not a friendly place for that.

All this to say that the four-leaf clover bag could be even more reductive than it seems.

 

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I’m sure when they are presenting this to sales team they will say something like this “the four leaf clover is for luck which we know Mr Dior himself was obsessed with carrying his lucky charms with him, superstition, blah blah blah. JW Anderson is Irish and blah blah blah… Think of carrying this bag covered in four leaf clovers as always having good luck with you”… for 12k of course

heheh at least the story is cohesive and makes sense ...after all you buy into a story as well provenance heritage and concept brand halo

could have been worse like just the new old Dior font printed on it by special technique and call it a day ala Givenchy or celine etc .

 

[marines]

 

[FashionPower]

I like it, nice performance attire but nothing groundbreaking.
I think Jisoo in MGC design was not the best choice: most of her outfits looked kinda matronly on her and aged her terribly.
Anya on the other hand? Perfection in MGC!
Rihanna is going to be another disaster in Dior x JWA: she fully embraced her fashion victim status and most of her looks are kinda clownish. Also her body type is not suitable for high fashion at all, especially the quirky / fashion forward propositions...

 

[GRCF]

Rihanna is going to be another disaster in Dior x JWA: she fully embraced her fashion victim status and most of her looks are kinda clownish. Also her body type is not suitable for high fashion at all, especially the quirky / fashion forward propositions...

I'm glad someone else said this. For me it's not that her body type is not suitable for high fashion, it's that her personal style is not suitable for high fashion. I'm not quite sure why she's a Dior ambassador. If they want a non-white person, there are plenty to choose from. My guess is that she is in the Kanye/Pharrell world and that's where LVMH pulls people from because why think outside the box?

 

[BalkaniStaCouture]

Good Lord! This looks even worse than Pretty Little Things! My God! Well what’s you wanted you got it! I think he will never ever be near of MGC level of craftmanship. But will allow him to prove me wrong!

 

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I'm glad someone else said this. For me it's not that her body type is not suitable for high fashion, it's that her personal style is not suitable for high fashion. I'm not quite sure why she's a Dior ambassador. If they want a non-white person, there are plenty to choose from. My guess is that she is in the Kanye/Pharrell world and that's where LVMH pulls people from because why think outside the box?

she been linked to dior since raf years before LV paharell lol

she sells how ever clownish she my look these days i agree - with her bad stylist (but this body or not body for high fashion is a bs conversion )

she got kids back to back and dont care to lose weight she still pushes big media attention and sales that's why the keep her close at LVMH.

most eurocentric white actresses don't bring or translate sales like she does period. maybe if they bring taylor swift lol

this RIRI in red ALAIA wont come back for now most likely never, we have to deal with it ! woman post childbearing should do what the f they like and get paid for it well. she can start with firing her stylist that's the only thing we can say....

 

[GRCF]

she been linked to dior since raf years before LV paharell lol

Well Pharell has been linked to LVMH since the early 2000s. Maybe they reached out directly to Rihanna, who knows. They just need a refresh of people IMO.

Like I said, it's not her body for me, it's her personal style that I find tacky. I agree she should fire her stylist, but somehow I don't think that will change anything. Tastes change and clearly, sometimes, not for the better.

 

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Well Pharell has been linked to LVMH since the early 2000s. Maybe they reached out directly to Rihanna, who knows. They just need a refresh of people IMO.

Like I said, it's not her body for me, it's her personal style that I find tacky. I agree she should fire her stylist, but somehow I don't think that will change anything. Tastes change and clearly, sometimes, not for the better.

she had different period where she balanced street style and being a artist and wearing chic things the new stylist also styles Kim Kardashian you can she her style also changed like the last met was kim worst look for me.

a stylist does change allot for an artist Mell late years where better for Riri now she wear to many layers and shapes not working for her or any body.

fresh people don't have the same star power yet ..like you said Pharrell been around since marc years and the Chanel then back to LV till now 20 years later to be the cd of LV takes time.

the brands do take on new people but poc people are always tokenized and not many like you can read here or on social are regarded as eurocentric in taste to fit with in the brand like most euro and asian artist that follow more eurocentric style as a status ideal.

Most black black artist are rap or RnB meets pop white kids listen to Pharrell fans are and YE fasn have a lot of white boys as a following.
they look at star for being part of a culture not what is eurcentic approved high fashion.

athleeads are becoming more now the big stars brand are investing more in them and their clubs as well its the next chapter

fashion power stared the body thing hehe i know :-)

 

[fruitdots]

Good Lord! This looks even worse than Pretty Little Things! My God! Well what’s you wanted you got it! I think he will never ever be near of MGC level of craftmanship. But will allow him to prove me wrong!

JWA is a far more adventurous, capacious tailor than MGC.